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Posted: 9/1/2015 7:50:51 PM EST




Washington (CNN)The ACLU of Kentucky filed a motion in federal court Tuesday asking a judge to hold county clerk Kim Davis in contempt of court for failing to comply with the Supreme Court and issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.




In court papers, the ACLU lawyers note that following the Supreme Court's order late Monday night, the plaintiffs in their case went to the Rowan County Clerk's office at 8 a.m. Tuesday to obtain a marriage license.




"Unfortunately , they were again denied by a deputy clerk who asserted that no marriage licenses would be issued," the ACLU said in a statement. The lawyers argue that Davis has "violated a definite and specific order" and that the Court is left "with no choice but to hold her in contempt."




Davis, of the Rowan County Clerk's office, has refused to issue any marriage licenses since the U.S. Supreme Court decision -- Obergefell v. Hodges -- came down. She is an Apostolic Christian who says that she has a sincere religious objection to same-sex marriage. Other clerks in the state have expressed concern, but Davis is the only one turning away eligible couples.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 7:51:47 PM EST
Stupid.

Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:17:24 PM EST
But when I can't get my CCW permit (yes bullshit to need one but hey some places) the ACLU is quiet as can be.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:23:31 PM EST
Good for her. Hopefully she avoids jail time.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:32:27 PM EST
So not that I could really care either way, I think the government should be completely out of the marriage business regardless,  but since she's refusing to comply with the law just fire her ass. Simple solution and gets this incredibly stupid subject out of the news.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:36:35 PM EST
Is this the court clerk who's been divorced three times and thinks the homos are ruining marriage?

Good for the ACLU. It's mostly a bullshit organization but occasionally they do some good.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:38:03 PM EST
Yeah that sounds so Civil Liberty-ish to NOT defend the clerk.  

The ACLU should have done NOTHING in this situation.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:39:16 PM EST
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Exactly.  It's become a bullshit organization.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:39:45 PM EST
I do not agree with her.  If she has problems with it, then quit.  But if you work for a public entity, then you have to follow the laws no matter what.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:40:11 PM EST
The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.



If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.




I am 100% opposed to gay marriage.




And I think this lady needs to go to jail.






Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:42:43 PM EST
For once I side with the ACLU.  That fat religious zealot cunt needs to go to fucking jail and be fined big time.
She's the shining example of a christian, married 4 fucking times.
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Well, my good chum, what's good for the goose is good for the gander right? Either the clerk can issue permits/licenses as they see fit or they need to rubber stamp everything based on the law. Which one is it?

Cheerio
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I'm going with you.

Do the job that you were elected to do and for which you're being paid $80,000 a year.

If you don't want to issue marriage certificates to gay people, McDonalds is paying $15/hr, so go work there.

Chris
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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.

If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.


I am 100% opposed to gay marriage.


And I think this lady needs to go to jail.




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Why not just fire her?

I, for one, support the clerk's right to give a big FU to the Supreme Court.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:48:08 PM EST
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Eric Holder did for contempt of congress
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:48:55 PM EST
Well what else would you call it by legal definition?
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:49:44 PM EST
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Why not just fire her?

I, for one, support the clerk's right to give a big FU to the Supreme Court.
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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.

If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.


I am 100% opposed to gay marriage.


And I think this lady needs to go to jail.






Why not just fire her?

I, for one, support the clerk's right to give a big FU to the Supreme Court.


She's elected.

And she does not have that right.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 8:54:35 PM EST
Good, I hope she goes to sit-on-my-face prison.
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She's elected.



And she does not have that right.

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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.



If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.





I am 100% opposed to gay marriage.





And I think this lady needs to go to jail.




Why not just fire her?



I, for one, support the clerk's right to give a big FU to the Supreme Court.





She's elected.



And she does not have that right.





 



I didn't know it was an elected position.  Most places, it's civil service.




Point is, you don't get to pick and choose as a Clerk of Court.  




What if she has religious objections to signing off on a subpoena?  Or noticing a summons?







Bull-fucking-shit.







If I was the County Judge in that courthouse, she would be in leg irons.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:00:57 PM EST
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If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.






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But if she was standing up for the second amendment and granting gun licenses we'd all be championing her
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:02:37 PM EST
She IS in contempt of court, the SCOTUS version.
She has a job verifying mariage data for legal marriages.
She is not doing her job and is in defiance of SCOTUS.
She has lost 3 times in a row, quickly.
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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.



If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.




But if she was standing up for the second amendment and granting gun licenses we'd all be championing her





 



And if a cow had a dick it'd be a bull.




But it doesn't.




So it isn't.










What's your point?
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:11:16 PM EST
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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.

If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.


I am 100% opposed to gay marriage.


And I think this lady needs to go to jail.




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I can't wait for the muslims to finish seizing control of places like Dearborn, and the clerks refusing marriage licenses to Christian couples for not paying jizya. I expect toppest of keks.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:17:49 PM EST
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For once I side with the ACLU.  That fat religious zealot cunt needs to go to fucking jail and be fined big time.
She's the shining example of a christian, married 4 fucking times.
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She's a recent convert.
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This
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I find the reaction here just as ridiculous, for the same reason.
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Bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:24:31 PM EST
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She's a recent convert.
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She's the shining example of a christian, married 4 fucking times.



She's a recent convert.

Had her fun,now it's time to straighten up and fly right!
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For once I side with the ACLU.  That fat religious zealot cunt needs to go to fucking jail and be fined big time.

She's the shining example of a christian, married 4 fucking times.






She's a recent convert.




 



Ah.  Reformed Slut Syndrome.




Like "former smoker" but 100 times more zealous.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:33:31 PM EST
FOUR different men married her?

Does she just have a thing for blind men?

Woof.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:39:37 PM EST
the government should get out of the marriage license business
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 9:42:05 PM EST
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This response is arfcom marriage license equivalent of hands up, don't shoot
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 10:53:10 PM EST
The funny thing is there is a big uproar about her not issuing marriage licenses for same sex marriage but she has stopped issuing licenses to everyone no matter there sexual orientation.  The community can call a special election to replace the bimbo if that's what they want to do.  Plus while it might be her job to issue said licenses there is no law that requires her to issue marriage licenses to anyone.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 10:55:39 PM EST
If BHO can choose which laws to follow and enforce, why not her?
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 10:58:43 PM EST
I have no problem with someone taking a stand for what they believe is right.
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 11:02:50 PM EST
The USSCt decision in question said that homosexual marriage must be permitted under the same terms and conditions as heterosexual marriage.

The clerk is not issuing marriage licenses to anyone, and is therefore acting in accordance with the decision.

She is not discriminating against anyone. She is treating all persons identically.

If she is failing to do her job, that is a matter for state authorities or for the voters. Nothing she has done implicates any federal right or any interest of the federal government.
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She IS in contempt of court, the SCOTUS version.

She has a job verifying mariage data for legal marriages.

She is not doing her job and is in defiance of SCOTUS.

She has lost 3 times in a row, quickly.
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SCOTUS has nothing to do with this.  SCOTUS never issued an opinion requiring her to do anything.



 
Link Posted: 9/1/2015 11:29:28 PM EST
If the fed gov can cast a blind eye to court ordered/constitutional rights in any state they choose, I'm fine with any state doing the same to the fed gov's court orders, particularly when an order has no constitutional relevance in the first place. If the clerk is getting marched off for contempt, she needs to be marching right behind a slew of  fed officials at the DOJ, IRS, State Dept, etc.

Regardless, all levels of gov should get out of the marriage approval business.
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So, you think it is acceptable for a county clerk to refuse permission for Clarence Thomas to marry his wife simply because he/she does not believe in interracial marriage?

That is what would happen if the *.gov was not in the regulatory side of the game.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 9:22:02 AM EST
I'm a devout Christian... and I believe she needs to step aside.

You don't get to be elected to public office and then use that office to force your beliefs on others who don't believe the same way.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 9:22:29 AM EST
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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.

If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.


I am 100% opposed to gay marriage.


And I think this lady needs to go to jail.




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Agreed.
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Agreed with this too.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 9:24:16 AM EST
She should be.  If she couldn't do the job as demanded by the people who employ her, she should have resigned instead of being an activist.

If you work for the government, you must obey the laws that govern your job.  If you can't do that, don't do the job.
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 9:24:23 AM EST
She's also been married 4 times and committed adultery. Tell me again how she's a moral authority.
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Is this the court clerk who's been divorced three times and thinks the homos are ruining marriage?

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Agreed +10000000

Thus stupid attention whoring hick needs to shut the fuck up asap
Link Posted: 9/2/2015 9:26:30 AM EST
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Yeah, forcing one's will on the people is a monopoly held by the Supreme Court.

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I'm a devout Christian... and I believe she needs to step aside.



You don't get to be elected to public office and then use that office to force your beliefs on others who don't believe the same way.


Agreed with this too.
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's render unto God what is God's. Idiot needs to spend a wee bit more time reading the new testament and less time stonewalling the queers

 
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The Clerk is an idiot.  This is where you separate your personal religious belief from your duty to uphold the law.

If she felt that strongly about it, she should resign.  You don't get to keep the job and disobey the court when you are a Clerk of Court.


I am 100% in support ofgay marriage.


And I think this lady needs to go to jail.




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Quoted but modified a bit.
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Agreed, she is in clear violation of the law.
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Yeah, forcing one's will on the people is a monopoly held by the Supreme Court.

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I'm a devout Christian... and I believe she needs to step aside.

You don't get to be elected to public office and then use that office to force your beliefs on others who don't believe the same way.


Yeah, forcing one's will on the people is a monopoly held by the Supreme Court.



Ohhh snap
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I'm a devout Christian... and I believe she needs to step aside.

You don't get to be elected to public office and then use that office to force your beliefs on others who don't believe the same way.


Yeah, forcing one's will on the people is a monopoly held by the Supreme Court.




Oh no, you too?!  What man did the supreme court force you to marry?  

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