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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:10:25 PM EDT
I have a Makarov and a P64 on the way, and plan to carry at least one of them.

However none of the hollow point ammo I see tested consistently penetrate past 9 or 10 inches. The Hornady XTP, Critical Defense, the Silver Bear hollow points are the ones I've seen. They penetrate decently and expand through 4 layers of denim, but not in bare gel. And that's more clothing than most people wear here for most of the year.

Does anyone know of a consistent performing 9x18 load? Or should I just stick with FMJ? I know Underwood has a hard cast flat nose +p load. That may be my only option.

Someone enlighten me.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:12:33 PM EDT
I use critical defense or handloads
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:16:24 PM EDT
How fat of a person do you intend on shooting?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:23:14 PM EDT
How fat of a person do you intend on shooting?
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LoL. Spent much time in public lately?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:26:19 PM EDT
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=64

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Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:29:40 PM EDT
Underwood only, faster than Buffalo Boar -

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Muzzle Velocity: 1150 fps
Muzzle Energy: 279 ft. lbs.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:31:25 PM EDT
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I have a Makarov and a P64 on the way, and plan to carry at least one of them.

However none of the hollow point ammo I see tested consistently penetrate past 9 or 10 inches. The Hornady XTP, Critical Defense, the Silver Bear hollow points are the ones I've seen. They penetrate decently and expand through 4 layers of denim, but not in bare gel. And that's more clothing than most people wear here for most of the year.

Does anyone know of a consistent performing 9x18 load? Or should I just stick with FMJ? I know Underwood has a hard cast flat nose +p load. That may be my only option.

Someone enlighten me.
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Before ammo, get a set of Wolff replacement sprigs.  They once had sets to reduce the DA trigger pull.
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Before ammo, get a set of Wolff replacement sprigs.  They once had sets to reduce the DA trigger pull.
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They're on the way too.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:38:14 PM EDT
Most of the options y'all have listed so far don't seem to penetrate far enough in bare gel. I'm not super comfortable with 7 inches of penetration.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:43:30 PM EDT
I carry a CZ-82 in 9 Mak and use Hornady Critical Defense ammo.

The hog I shot with it died just fine.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:44:28 PM EDT
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Most of the options y'all have listed so far don't seem to penetrate far enough in bare gel. I'm not super comfortable with 7 inches of penetration.
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Phrasing
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:44:50 PM EDT
13.4 " for the Underwood -

Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:51:22 PM EDT
Good grief, why?
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:52:42 PM EDT
I have a 9x18 and I don't carry it, I carry my .45 ACP with JHP in it!
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:54:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:57:46 PM EDT
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LoL. Spent much time in public lately?
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Touché
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:58:10 PM EDT
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Most of the options y'all have listed so far don't seem to penetrate far enough in bare gel. I'm not super comfortable with 7 inches of penetration.
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I can give you 7.5...
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:58:43 PM EDT
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Most of the options y'all have listed so far don't seem to penetrate far enough in bare gel. I'm not super comfortable with 7 inches of penetration.
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Thats what she said.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 6:59:11 PM EDT
I think I have Blazer aluminum with hollow points.  Not from this century.  





I am sure that is better than all the actual Tula I have in brown cardboard 8 packs
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:00:39 PM EDT
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How fat of a person do you intend on shooting?
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Fat people are not the reason behind the penetration standards.
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Fat people are not the reason behind the penetration standards.
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If they were we'd be up to about a 20-22" minimum. 
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