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Posted: 9/14/2018 10:36:39 AM EST
I finally found a Lothar Walther Garand barrel in 9.3x62 caliber.

In fact I found two of them and they are on the way.

By the end of this year, you can expect to see a completed Garand in 9.3 mm.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:38:15 AM EST
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Good for griz!
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:38:28 AM EST
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What does 9.3 even look like?
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:38:55 AM EST
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Do one in .458 win mag

Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:40:55 AM EST
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I want.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:43:43 AM EST
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Thats magnificent
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:47:24 AM EST
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Outstanding OP. That's a dream gun for me. I love my CZ, but 286 woodleighs from a Garand en bloc would be a dreamsicle!

250gr Nosler accubonds remain supersonic past 1200 yards and have a very nice BC for such a fat bullet and can run in the 2550-2600fps range from a bolt gun.

To those not knowing, the 9.3 requires no bolt mods and little if any mods to OAL for the cartridge to fit a Shuster nut for the gas system should make it work well without beating the action.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:47:56 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:48:49 AM EST
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:48:56 AM EST
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Take it on safari in Africa.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:51:42 AM EST
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a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:53:12 AM EST
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Which African countries have you applied for firearm permits in?
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 10:58:43 AM EST
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He lives in Canada.  He has plenty of “reasons” for a dangerous game rifle.

Polar bears
Grizzly bears
Moose
Bags of milk
Crabby
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:04:21 AM EST
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As someone said, because fuck you, fuck your buddies, fuck your cover and fuck my shoulder.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:04:26 AM EST
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That is my dream....

HK made my SLB 2000 in 9.3 but only released them in Europe. Mine is in .30-06.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:06:53 AM EST
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I have ZERO need for that.

I must have one.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:09:04 AM EST
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It’s a cool, overlooked caliber.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:10:16 AM EST
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
What does that sound like firing?

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG-BOOOIIIIIIIING

RELOADING GOING BACK TO THE OFFICE
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:13:15 AM EST
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
Fuck who cares?  It's handheld, glorious fucking awesome.  And for no rational, articulable reason.  Get your priorities in order, man!

You still haven't posted where I can get mine.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:14:39 AM EST
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Nobody needs 8 rounds of ammo
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.they need 30+
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:16:40 AM EST
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As if we needed ANOTHER reason to hate Fluffy

Damn you!
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:22:25 AM EST
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The brass is readily available and I will just handload my ammo.

55.0 grains of H4895 with a 286 grain bullet will produce about 2300 fps.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:30:57 AM EST
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Because fuck you and that engine block your hiding behind.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:39:43 AM EST
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I'm really excited because I have most of the parts ready to go.

As soon as everything arrives, I will install the barrels and since they are already finish reamed, I won't need a pull through reamer.

I have a set of headspace guages coming and once headspace is verified, I will be on my way.

I intend to use Breda receiver BMR 61 together with a Breda bolt.  I have a new old stock Beretta gas cylinder assembly, all of the internal parts and a trigger group.

I just need a stock set and an operating rod.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 11:46:24 AM EST
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I'm really excited because I have most of the parts ready to go.

As soon as everything arrives, I will install the barrels and since they are already finish reamed, I won't need a pull through reamer.

I have a set of headspace guages coming and once headspace is verified, I will be on my way.

I intend to use Breda receiver BMR 61 together with a Breda bolt.  I have a new old stock Beretta gas cylinder assembly, all of the internal parts and a trigger group.

I just need a stock set and an operating rod.
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Will the barrel diameter support a stock gas cylinder? And I guess everything else will be relatively standard as long as you have a Schuster gas plug? Will the handguards still fit over the barrel?

I can’t wait to see this finished!
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:01:38 PM EST
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Will the barrel diameter support a stock gas cylinder? And I guess everything else will be relatively standard as long as you have a Schuster gas plug? Will the handguards still fit over the barrel?

I can’t wait to see this finished!
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It is a standard Garand barrel except that it is in 9.3x62mm. Standard handguards will fit.

It also uses a standard gas cylinder assembly.  The 9.3x62 operates at the same pressures as .30-06 and the 9.3x62 is actually based on the .30-06 case.

Cracking a Safe With an Elephant Gun
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:10:31 PM EST
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It is a standard Garand barrel except that it is in 9.3x62mm. Standard handguards will fit.

It also uses a standard gas cylinder assembly.  The 9.3x62 operates at the same pressures as .30-06 and the 9.3x62 is actually based on the .30-06 case.

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In that case, the clips shouldn't be too much trouble to fit the new round, right?
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:11:00 PM EST
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Left to right:  9.3x62, .30-06, 8x57, 6.5x55mm, .308

The 9.3x62 should work with Garand en bloc clips.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:14:56 PM EST
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How do you not knock the rear feet off the receiver with that load, or bend the operating rod?
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:16:57 PM EST
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We'll need a range report on this one
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:17:35 PM EST
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As long as you use the right powder you are fine.

Use IMR 4064 or IMR 4895 and you wont damage anything.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:18:03 PM EST
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
I roll my own.  I'd have to do the math for today's prices
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:19:01 PM EST
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Fuck who cares?  It's handheld, glorious fucking awesome.  And for no rational, articulable reason.  Get your priorities in order, man!

You still haven't posted where I can get mine.
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
Fuck who cares?  It's handheld, glorious fucking awesome.  And for no rational, articulable reason.  Get your priorities in order, man!

You still haven't posted where I can get mine.
No idea where you can get one. But with enough money, anything is possible
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:24:09 PM EST
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
Fuck who cares?  It's handheld, glorious fucking awesome.  And for no rational, articulable reason.  Get your priorities in order, man!

You still haven't posted where I can get mine.
No idea where you can get one. But with enough money, anything is possible
The .458 Garand was available from McCann Industries.  But Mr. McCann died and his conversion may no longer be available.

9.3x62mm Garand barrels are made by Lothar Walther in Germany and they are sold in Canada by Trade Ex Canada.

The .458 Garand required a modification to the bolt in order for it to work with a belted magnum cartridge

The 9.3x62mm is based on the .30-06 and it is the most practical way to get as much power as possible from the M1 rifle
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:24:41 PM EST
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I finally found a Lothar Walther Garand barrel in 9.3x62 caliber.

In fact I found two of them and they are on the way.

By the end of this year, you can expect to see a completed Garand in 9.3 mm.
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Dibs if you ever decide to sell one.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:25:33 PM EST
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One of my all time favorite rifle cartridges.

Like a super heavy bullet 30-06
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:29:28 PM EST
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Exactly!

And out of a gas-operated semi auto, the felt recoil would be less and it still would be a terrific stopper.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:30:12 PM EST
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I wonder if a .375 Ruger would work? That would be absolutely tits.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:49:59 PM EST
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The   .375 Ruger is not based on the .30-06 case and it would require that the bolt be modified.

And as far as I know, no-one makes Garand barrels in  .375 Ruger.

But why bother?  Just think of the 9.3x62mm as the .366 Fluffy.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:55:07 PM EST
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As someone said, because fuck you, fuck your buddies, fuck your cover and fuck my shoulder.
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Yeh, I thought that .458 conversion was common knowledge.  Especially if you follow Garands.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 12:59:13 PM EST
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Awesome!! It's neat seeing them chambered in something other than '06.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:04:43 PM EST
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Oh my!!

Is that a straight wall case???

That would be Ohio Deer Legal.

ETA:  nope. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:08:54 PM EST
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The .458 Garand was available from McCann Industries.  But Mr. McCann died and his conversion may no longer be available.

9.3x62mm Garand barrels are made by Lothar Walther in Germany and they are sold in Canada by Trade Ex Canada.

The .458 Garand required a modification to the bolt in order for it to work with a belted magnum cartridge

The 9.3x62mm is based on the .30-06 and it is the most practical way to get as much power as possible from the M1 rifle
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You magnificent bastard ..

a full semi auto 458 wm..

will be in my bunk..

what does that cost, $4 a trigger pull ?
Cheapest I see on Midway is $5 a round for Hornady
Fuck who cares?  It's handheld, glorious fucking awesome.  And for no rational, articulable reason.  Get your priorities in order, man!

You still haven't posted where I can get mine.
No idea where you can get one. But with enough money, anything is possible
The .458 Garand was available from McCann Industries.  But Mr. McCann died and his conversion may no longer be available.

9.3x62mm Garand barrels are made by Lothar Walther in Germany and they are sold in Canada by Trade Ex Canada.

The .458 Garand required a modification to the bolt in order for it to work with a belted magnum cartridge

The 9.3x62mm is based on the .30-06 and it is the most practical way to get as much power as possible from the M1 rifle
The .458 Garand barrel had a larger dia then GI, so custom gas cylinder, custom op rod, bolt mod, and I am sure other work to fit the cartridge.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:16:51 PM EST
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Shuffs Parkereizing does a 35 Whelen Garand conversion if anybody is interested. I've got a Mini-G from him and it's very nice. Not a Whelen though.
Shuffs
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:41:26 PM EST
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It is a standard Garand barrel except that it is in 9.3x62mm. Standard handguards will fit.

It also uses a standard gas cylinder assembly.  The 9.3x62 operates at the same pressures as .30-06 and the 9.3x62 is actually based on the .30-06 case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLWCMfsmSJE
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Will the barrel diameter support a stock gas cylinder? And I guess everything else will be relatively standard as long as you have a Schuster gas plug? Will the handguards still fit over the barrel?

I can't wait to see this finished!
It is a standard Garand barrel except that it is in 9.3x62mm. Standard handguards will fit.

It also uses a standard gas cylinder assembly.  The 9.3x62 operates at the same pressures as .30-06 and the 9.3x62 is actually based on the .30-06 case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLWCMfsmSJE
Yup.... I'm a big fan of the 9.3x62mm. Developed for German Settlers in Africa in 1905, designed for a standard Mauser receiver. It is a great round.



For my HK SLB 2000. It is a simple barrel swap. Alas, HK never imported 9.3 barrels into the US. My mags are even marked 9.3.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:43:03 PM EST
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Fucking THIS.

9.3 Mauser is a great DG round.

As usual FTC, jealous of your garands.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:48:47 PM EST
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It is a standard Garand barrel except that it is in 9.3x62mm. Standard handguards will fit.

It also uses a standard gas cylinder assembly.  The 9.3x62 operates at the same pressures as .30-06 and the 9.3x62 is actually based on the .30-06 case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLWCMfsmSJE
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Badass! I eagerly await future updates.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:57:04 PM EST
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Or he can work for NORAD and use it for anti-satellite work
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 1:59:00 PM EST
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I have blacktip for that.
Link Posted: 9/14/2018 2:02:20 PM EST
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Yup.... I'm a big fan of the 9.3x62mm. Developed for German Settlers in Africa in 1905, designed for a standard Mauser receiver. It is a great round.

https://i.imgur.com/csmWHKE.jpg

For my HK SLB 2000. It is a simple barrel swap. Alas, HK never imported 9.3 barrels into the US. My mags are even marked 9.3.
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I went to the safari convention in Dallas a few years ago and stopped at the Beretta “fort” to fondle some $50k shotguns.

I ended up walking into the Sako section of the fort and grabbed the Sako Black Bear 9.3 X 62.  Wow that little rifle pointed well and it’s on my short list of new things to get.

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