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Posted: 8/4/2009 4:17:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 4:19:39 PM EST by Drsalee]
Cash for Clunkers

4 out of 5 new cars obtained through the Cash for Clunkers program are foreign cars? I mean.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:19:31 PM EST
More american than the shit the UAW sells. I don't blame anybody for getting the most value for their dollar. These days, it means stay the fuck away from the UAW.

In before "but the money doesn't stay here!!!!!oneoneone!!!"
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:21:33 PM EST
Foreign cars? Do you mean cars made outside the USA?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:21:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
More american than the shit the UAW sells. I don't blame anybody for getting the most value for their dollar. These days, it means stay the fuck away from the UAW.

In before "but the money doesn't stay here!!!!!oneoneone!!!"


I am no fan of the UAW......They can go fuck themselves. I am no fan of .gov giving out $$$$ to prop up the auto industry. But, this is just completely ridiculous!

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:22:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By Pangea:
Foreign cars? Do you mean cars made outside the USA?


Yes

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:23:50 PM EST
if uaw workers were building those cars, foreign flag or not, then the bill is working as intended.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:25:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Originally Posted By Pangea:
Foreign cars? Do you mean cars made outside the USA?


Yes



Like Canadian Chevys and Mexican Fords?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:25:40 PM EST
well, if you want to buy a quality car you sure as hell don't buy an 'American" car.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:25:50 PM EST
i've never owned a "foreign" vehicle. that will end next time it is time to buy a new car. i will never again own a gm, dodge or ford. gm or dodge since they sold their souls to the devil. ford is guilty by association...uaw and all that. next car will be a toyota or honda, and next truck will be a toyota or nissan.

-matt
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:26:42 PM EST
My new toyota is more american then ford! It's in the top 10 american made cars


so blow me
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:26:53 PM EST
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:27:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:28:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 4:29:26 PM EST by legalese77]

Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Originally Posted By Pangea:
Foreign cars? Do you mean cars made outside the USA?


Yes



That isn't what the article says:

"The data didn’t break out where the cars sold were manufactured. Some vehicles sold by foreign companies are manufactured in the U.S. "

My far-in whip was built in Marysville, OH. Only the transmission came from Japan.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:30:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By Marcbme:
My new toyota is more american then ford! It's in the top 10 american made cars


so blow me


Follow the money! You should know this by now...
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:31:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Drsalee:
.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!

Where have you been?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:33:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By m193:

Originally Posted By Drsalee:
.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!

Where have you been?


I dunno

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:33:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 4:35:00 PM EST by Sig_Fan]
I've got a new Corolla and I love it. 34 city/41 highway. Extremely easy to work on too.


ETA: Cash for Clunkers is nothing more than a bailout. I think it is ironic that it is mostly going to foreign car makers.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:33:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.


I'm not advocating buying American

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:34:30 PM EST
OBAMANOMICS.....................
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:35:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 4:37:35 PM EST by Engineer]
From what I could find, it looks like 7 of the 10 are assembled in the USA. Please correct if this information is wrong.


The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers New Cars:

1. Ford Focus (Wayne, MI)

2. Honda Civic (Greensburg, IN)

3. Toyota Corolla (Fremont, CA)

4. Toyota Prius (Japan)

5. Ford Escape (Claycomo, MO)

6. Toyota Camry (Georgetown, KY; Lafyette, IN)

7. Dodge Caliber (Belvidere, IL)

8. Hyundai Elantra (Korea)

9. Honda Fit (Japan)

10. Chevy Cobalt (Lordstown, OH)
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:35:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By legalese77:

Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Originally Posted By Pangea:
Foreign cars? Do you mean cars made outside the USA?


Yes



That isn't what the article says:

"The data didn’t break out where the cars sold were manufactured. Some vehicles sold by foreign companies are manufactured in the U.S. "

My far-in whip was built in Marysville, OH. Only the transmission came from Japan.


The transmision im my Chevy was made in italy and the rest was in canada

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:35:51 PM EST
The Honda Civic I bought has 60% US/Canadian made parts per the window sticker with the engine listed as US made.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:42:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.

Yeah, most foreign car companies manufacture vehicles inside the US.

US cars have seen a pretty significant increase in quality in the past few years. I have a Yukon Denali and it's a great rig. Well built, comfortable, roomy and safe. Quality hasn't been a concern for some years now...they don't make Corvairs, Vegas and Pintos anymore.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:45:04 PM EST
Only in the United States of Socialism can a small portion of the populace buy a new car and ALL of the populace gets to pay for them.


WTF.... When do we get to wake up from this nightmare?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:47:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 4:48:50 PM EST by 57Strat]
The article says 47% of the transactions under the program were with Ford, Chrysler and GM. The 4 out of 5 number is just for the top five ranking of models that people bought.


Aug. 4 (Bloomberg) –– Four of the top five models sold so far under the U.S. “cash for clunkers” program, aimed at boosting the auto industry, are made by foreign automakers, according to Transportation Department data.



Vehicles made by the three largest U.S. automakers –– General Motors Co., Ford and Chrysler Group LLC –– were fewer than half of sales under the program through Aug. 1, according to Transportation Department data obtained yesterday. The companies accounted for 47 percent of the clunkers transactions.

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:48:35 PM EST
fuck the uaw and the commies they put in office.

fuck government motors.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:48:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
More american than the shit the UAW sells. I don't blame anybody for getting the most value for their dollar. These days, it means stay the fuck away from the UAW.

In before "but the money doesn't stay here!!!!!oneoneone!!!"


If you buy a Ford truck, chances are I and many of my co-workers took part in engineering it.

If you buy a Tacoma, well, those salaries are paid in Japan.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:49:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:50:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.


False. Some "foreign" cars are assembled here. And some of them are assembled from parts that are engineerd here. But most of them are engineered abroad.

When you buy a "domestic" you support a vast food chain. It isn't just about the UAW, it is about the engineers, accountants, and the restaurants and shops that are supported by them.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:51:42 PM EST
Of course it is ridiculous. Everything about it is ridiculous. It's IS the point Ø is trying to make. "Look what I can make happen and they will eat it and I will not be transparent about it either and they will eat it."

But none of it is as ridiculous as the vids I've seen of them destroying perfectly good cars.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:53:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By ARsonist:
Of course it is ridiculous. Everything about it is ridiculous. It's IS the point Ø is trying to make. "Look what I can make happen and they will eat it and I will not be transparent about it either and they will eat it."

But none of it is as ridiculous as the vids I've seen of them destroying perfectly good cars.


this.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:55:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 4:56:04 PM EST by THR-Thumper]
Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
More american than the shit the UAW sells. I don't blame anybody for getting the most value for their dollar. These days, it means stay the fuck away from the UAW.

In before "but the money doesn't stay here!!!!!oneoneone!!!"


If you buy a Ford truck, chances are I and many of my co-workers took part in engineering it.

If you buy a Tacoma, well, those salaries are paid in Japan.


Horseshit and lies. Buy a Tacoma and it pays me.

Toyota FTMFW!!!!

Fucking Mexican Ford...

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 4:59:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 5:05:49 PM EST by jeremy223]

Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.


False. Some "foreign" cars are assembled here. And some of them are assembled from parts that are engineerd here. But most of them are engineered abroad.

When you buy a "domestic" you support a vast food chain. It isn't just about the UAW, it is about the engineers, accountants, and the restaurants and shops that are supported by them.
Sorry (actually, no, I'm not), but when my Taco has had 1/10th the cost to fix problems with way more than the mileage that either of my S-10s had before trading out of the money pits, I'll gladly give my money to the foreign engineers.

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:01:04 PM EST
Fuck the UAW.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:01:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.


False. Some "foreign" cars are assembled here. And some of them are assembled from parts that are engineerd here. But most of them are engineered abroad.

When you buy a "domestic" you support a vast food chain. It isn't just about the UAW, it is about the engineers, accountants, and the restaurants and shops that are supported by them.


I bought a Nissan. Made 30 miles from me in Smyrna, TN. I'm pretty sure that put more money into the economy of my County and State than buying a Mexican-built ford would have.

And I DID NOT use the Cash for Clunkers program. I bought that bitch straight-up.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:02:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:03:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:
Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
More american than the shit the UAW sells. I don't blame anybody for getting the most value for their dollar. These days, it means stay the fuck away from the UAW.

In before "but the money doesn't stay here!!!!!oneoneone!!!"


If you buy a Ford truck, chances are I and many of my co-workers took part in engineering it.

If you buy a Tacoma, well, those salaries are paid in Japan.


Horseshit and lies. Buy a Tacoma and it pays me.

Toyota FTMFW!!!!

Fucking Mexican Ford...

My Tacoma is made in Mexico

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:05:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Cash for Clunkers

4 out of 5 new cars obtained through the Cash for Clunkers program are foreign cars? I mean.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!


Aren't you the one who has a Mercedes SLK in the driveway...?
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:05:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Cash for Clunkers

4 out of 5 new cars obtained through the Cash for Clunkers program are foreign cars? I mean.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!


I'm NOT buying from a company that took bailout money, EVER.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:06:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/4/2009 5:07:23 PM EST by jeremy223]

Originally Posted By SonOfNorway:
Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Cash for Clunkers

4 out of 5 new cars obtained through the Cash for Clunkers program are foreign cars? I mean.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!


Aren't you the one who has a Mercedes SLK in the driveway...?
In the Dentist thread it was a Bentley and an SL, IIRC.

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:06:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By para_frame:
well, if you want to buy a quality car you sure as hell don't buy an 'American" car.


This
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:06:59 PM EST
What's wrong with foreign cars exactly?

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:09:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By Tipsovr:
Only in the United States of Socialism can a small portion of the populace buy a new car and ALL of the populace gets to pay for them.


WTF.... When do we get to wake up from this nightmare?


Take to Bluepill, because the red pill is laced with cyanide.

Thank you Obamacare.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:10:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.


False. Some "foreign" cars are assembled here. And some of them are assembled from parts that are engineerd here. But most of them are engineered abroad.

When you buy a "domestic" you support a vast food chain. It isn't just about the UAW, it is about the engineers, accountants, and the restaurants and shops that are supported by them.


You are missing the entire point. The domestics (GM, Ford, and Chrysler) are pieces of shit compared to the other American made cars.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:13:51 PM EST
My ford was built in MO.... Not MX...
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:16:03 PM EST
My Chevy Was built in LA. Engine was built in Michigan and my Transmission was built in Colorado.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:20:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By Drsalee:
Cash for Clunkers

4 out of 5 new cars obtained through the Cash for Clunkers program are foreign cars? I mean.......What the fuck?! What has happened to my country?!

Capitalism? People are free to buy products they feel are the best for the money they are spending?


Are you trying to tell people how they can or can't spend their hard-earned moneys?


Maybe if the domestic car companies wanted business, they should put out better products than their foreign competitors. Just a thought.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:23:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Shockergd:
Aren't most "Foreign" cars actually made in the USA?

A long time ago , US cars stopped being quality and started to become junk.


False. Some "foreign" cars are assembled here. And some of them are assembled from parts that are engineerd here. But most of them are engineered abroad.

When you buy a "domestic" you support a vast food chain. It isn't just about the UAW, it is about the engineers, accountants, and the restaurants and shops that are supported by them.


You are missing the entire point. The domestics (GM, Ford, and Chrysler) are pieces of shit compared to the other American made cars.


Not true. Look at Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, whatever. The new stuff, like the Ford Fusion, is kicking ass on quality.

Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:24:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By THR-Thumper:
Originally Posted By blood_donor:
Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
More american than the shit the UAW sells. I don't blame anybody for getting the most value for their dollar. These days, it means stay the fuck away from the UAW.

In before "but the money doesn't stay here!!!!!oneoneone!!!"


If you buy a Ford truck, chances are I and many of my co-workers took part in engineering it.

If you buy a Tacoma, well, those salaries are paid in Japan.


Horseshit and lies. Buy a Tacoma and it pays me.

Toyota FTMFW!!!!

Fucking Mexican Ford...



Um, Ford doesn't built many Trucks in Mexico.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:24:49 PM EST
I once owned a Ford Pinto. The engine was made in Brazil and the car was assembled in Canada. It require BOTH metric and SAE wrenches to work on it, and required work often. Crappy foreign car. Now I own a good, American-made Toyota.
Link Posted: 8/4/2009 5:25:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By para_frame:
well, if you want to buy a quality car you sure as hell don't buy an 'American" car.


This


Bullshit.
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