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Posted: 9/7/2004 10:39:46 AM EST
We do lots of X vs Y so why not.


Considering the following, which is the better round for hunting deer sized game?

Stuff them with good bullets. Which is more effective at 100 yds? How about 300 yds?
Cost of the uppers? (I own a 7.62x39 upper but am looking for a “deer upper”)
Cost of the ammo?
Ease of reloading?
Ease of getting high cap mags after the ban?


Thanks,
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:45:14 AM EST
Im interested in a 6.8 AR type myself, BUT

7.62X39 ammo is cheaper and more available (for now)

and the AK is cheaper, much more reliable, and has cheap bombproof mags

just get an AK with a siderail and get some optics for it!
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:45:41 AM EST
if you have a 762 upper just use it, I am guessing A 154gr soft point would work
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:45:55 AM EST
Everybody knows the AK and 7.62 is a far superior weapon to anything the AR/M16 brings to the table.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:46:23 AM EST
Comparing the trajectories, 7.62x39 drops like a rock compared to 6.8SPC.

>> 6.8SPC Ballistics
_BC_ _MV_ 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 | YARDS
0.340 2700 > -2.54 -0.63 -0.00 -0.85 -3.28 -7.56 -13.89 -22.50 -33.12 | > 6.8SPC 115gr OTM 18.0" factory, chrono'd
2697 2567 2439 2314 2196 2079 1966 1856 1755 | fps, velocity

>> 7.62x39
0.289 2200 > -2.53 -0.27 -0.01 -2.12 -6.80 -14.67 -26.11 -41.66 -61.45 | > 7.62x39 Federal
2197 2063 1931 1804 1684 1570 1464 1366 1279 | fps, velocity

Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:47:38 AM EST
Based on all I have read the 6.8 is superior to the 7.62x39 in everything except availability and low price (the military is buying up everything).

It has a trajectory similar to the 7.62 x 51 Nato.

Reloading is just as simple, nothing complex.

Mags might be an issue but I read over on the AR-15 forum that you can us ordinary AR mags but only with IIRC about 6 rounds in the mag. Deer hunting shouldn't be an issue as the first shot is the most critical.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:50:55 AM EST
Mag conversion kits are available from MSTN. They hold 15 and 25.

We should be able to buy production PRI mags in two weeks...

-z
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:53:41 AM EST
Within 200 yards the deer won't know the difference. As the range increases past 200 yards, the higher BC of the 6.8 will translate into a flatter trajectory and less wind drift which makes range and wind estimation less critical.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 10:58:53 AM EST
7.62 for all the above reasons.

just treat it like what it is-keep shots close.
i've hl'ed 125 and 150 grain soft points for semi-cheap hog and coyote ammo.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 11:01:49 AM EST
I believe Barnes is going to introduce some 85 to 100 grain range X-bullets for the .277 family of bullets, good bullets for Deer plinking.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 11:09:03 AM EST
eodtech2000,

What is your source for the Barnes rumor?

Barnes discontinued a 100gr X bullet in 2002, and discontinued the 120gr X in 2003. I called them a couple months ago to confirm.

-z
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 11:12:13 AM EST
Can you even find many properly sized hunting bullets for the 7.62x39?

I doubt that will be an issue with the .277 caliber.
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 11:17:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:
7.62 for all the above reasons.

just treat it like what it is-keep shots close.
i've hl'ed 125 and 150 grain soft points for semi-cheap hog and coyote ammo.



do you have any realoding data for 7.62.39 in the 130 and 150g bullets?
Link Posted: 9/7/2004 11:21:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/7/2004 11:21:48 AM EST by eodtech2000]

Originally Posted By Zak-Smith:
eodtech2000,

What is your source for the Barnes rumor?

Barnes discontinued a 100gr X bullet in 2002, and discontinued the 120gr X in 2003. I called them a couple months ago to confirm.

-z



I thought I saw it in a SWAT or the other law enforcement gun magazine in Walmart that I was browsing as the wife was galavanting thru the womens clothes. I know the cover of the magazine mentions the Remington 700 police in 6.8 SPC.
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