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Posted: 8/27/2009 2:13:55 PM EST
Every time I buy a gun and have to fill out the paperwork and undergo the background check I get nervous.

I know I haven't done anything that would disqualify me, but for some reason I always worry that I'll get denied.

Here in UT, you don't have to do the fed check if you have CCW, but they have to call in to verify your CCW so you're still waiting on a phone call.

I HATE this feeling, like you have to wait to see if you're allowed to have your constitutional rights.

Anyone else have that small nervous worry that you'll get delayed or denied when you buy a new gun?
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:16:12 PM EST
They make me feel like paying attention to dotting i's and crossing t's to avoid an attack of the stupid.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:18:10 PM EST
To be honest, I a couple months ago I had to go pick up a Nodak Spud AK-74 receiver that I ordered. I got really nervous because about a year prior to that, I got tested positive for PTSD by the VA. I was really afraid I was gonna get denied after doing all that paperwork shit and being humiliated by that. Luckily nothing happened.

Other than that, years ago, when I bought my AR15, I wasn't worried at all.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:19:09 PM EST
Makes me fill like a criminal, have to wait every time.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:20:19 PM EST
There's always a little worry, but I'm clean.

Still, I do hold my breath until dealer gives me the OK.

One never knows with the government.

Chris

Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:21:10 PM EST
You have a guilty conscience. You must have done something wrong. Just tell us where you buried her.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:21:20 PM EST
Neither here nor there to me.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:21:25 PM EST
CHL and carry a copy of BC (Long form of course)

Good to go

Hope to use the CHL this weekend for a buy
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:21:32 PM EST
Yes I know what you mean. Mostly worried I'll get delayed. Its happened once or twice before.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:21:38 PM EST
That's what I'm talking about, the "hold your breath" feeling. It sucks.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:22:09 PM EST
It just annoys me that they took away our CCW exemption to the Brady check
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:24:22 PM EST
I get nervous someone somewhere, is going through the same process and is going to draw the line and say "NOT BE INFRINGED" and it's gonna get ugly real fast.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:24:46 PM EST
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:24:49 PM EST
I'm usually admiring my new purchase to worry about the 3 minute phone call.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:26:38 PM EST
I don't worry one bit about them
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:28:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
It just annoys me that they took away our CCW exemption to the Brady check


This right here... Piss me off to no end
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:28:12 PM EST
wish mine only took 3 minutes having a common name sucks it usually takes a couple of hours to get the OK.. still have to do the wait too...GDFN ILLINOIS!!!
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:29:45 PM EST
Hate filling out the paperwork. Have CHL so I just pay and walk out with her.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:32:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By Argon3:
CHL and carry a copy of BC (Long form of course)

Good to go

Hope to use the CHL this weekend for a buy


Why the BC?
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:32:49 PM EST
i used to but that was many many many many many many many 4473 forms ago
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:34:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By greatwhite:
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.


I am waiting for them to add another zero to the end of that 10 bucks though... for each check.

I am sure that is on the agenda...
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:37:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By Triptech:

Originally Posted By greatwhite:
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.


I am waiting for them to add another zero to the end of that 10 bucks though... for each check.

I am sure that is on the agenda...




That would not surprise me one bit.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:38:25 PM EST
Dirty and not the good kinda dirty.....
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:38:49 PM EST
I think it sucks that I have to fill out a 4473 to exercise a constitutional right!
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:39:13 PM EST
annoyed in a red tape sorta way, here you can just hand them yer ccw and they copy the number down and no check is required, but still it sucks , its like yer asking permission to buy a gun
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:47:22 PM EST
FTF only way to fly.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:49:50 PM EST
Just another federal form
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 2:50:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:

Here in UT, you don't have to do the fed check if you have CCW,


I am pretty sure UT doesn't use the fed system. The feds are free, while UT charges.

Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:33:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/27/2009 3:35:07 PM EST by Hanzerik]
Here, they don't make any calls if you have a CWP, and I don't put my SSN down on any forms, so I don't worry about it anymore. Plus even if I did have to have them call for a check, I'm sure it would be approved...I have never got into trouble with the law.

Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:36:26 PM EST
Knowing what I know... all warm and tingly.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:36:34 PM EST
Makes me feel oppressed. Asking permission for something that is a right, seems very wrong.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:39:09 PM EST
I don't mind it. Actually, I'm glad they do it as it shows they don't want to be selling to a felon.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:40:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/27/2009 3:41:08 PM EST by Flogger23m]
Not one bit. I never did anything wrong, so I have nothing to fear. Only takes 20 minutes or so.


Originally Posted By xpired:
I don't mind it. Actually, I'm glad they do it as it shows they don't want to be selling to a felon.



Me either.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:41:12 PM EST
I've never felt the need to subject myself to a background check.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:43:59 PM EST
Done it once when I bought my stripped AR lower. Made me feel sick to my stomach when they said they entered it into the ATF's online system. I wanted to eject right then and there. I've done nothing wrong, but it made me feel like I was now on a watchlist or something. I'm 100% A-OK about an instant background check, but the records of purchase and stuff are what got me.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:45:44 PM EST
Dunno, I haven't had a background check done on me for a gun purchase in several years.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:47:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By Triptech:

Originally Posted By greatwhite:
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.


I am waiting for them to add another zero to the end of that 10 bucks though... for each check.

I am sure that is on the agenda...


Y'all pay ten bucks on top of the gun purchase?
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:48:07 PM EST
It makes me feel observed and tracked.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:48:13 PM EST
Just reminds me that we are not free, just like the same dumb bitch that has to check my ID everytime I buy beer.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:48:31 PM EST
I stopped buying from dealers last year. A buddy at work got a visit from the ATF a couple of weeks ago becuase he always bought new guns. They had a list of everything he had bought on a 4473, over 50 guns
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:50:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Triptech:

Originally Posted By greatwhite:
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.


I am waiting for them to add another zero to the end of that 10 bucks though... for each check.

I am sure that is on the agenda...


Y'all pay ten bucks on top of the gun purchase?




Yes sir.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:52:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By greatwhite:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Triptech:

Originally Posted By greatwhite:
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.


I am waiting for them to add another zero to the end of that 10 bucks though... for each check.

I am sure that is on the agenda...


Y'all pay ten bucks on top of the gun purchase?




Yes sir.



And that is for an in store purchase?

You need to do some negotiating

Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:53:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jeff_1:
I stopped buying from dealers last year. A buddy at work got a visit from the ATF a couple of weeks ago becuase he always bought new guns. They had a list of everything he had bought on a 4473, over 50 guns


4473 = Registration
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:53:34 PM EST
Papertrails.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:56:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By crowdlg:
Originally Posted By Jeff_1:
I stopped buying from dealers last year. A buddy at work got a visit from the ATF a couple of weeks ago becuase he always bought new guns. They had a list of everything he had bought on a 4473, over 50 guns


4473 = Registration


Bingo! It reverse registration that we are not even aware of

Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:56:09 PM EST
It makes me feel like a subject.

I'm sure it makes many people feel safe from the scary black felons.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:59:13 PM EST
Doesn't bother me. In Texas, with my CHL, filling out the 4473 is mostly a formality to me. FFLs are not required to call in when a buyer in Texas has a valid CHL.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 3:59:24 PM EST
Originally Posted By Flogger23m:
Not one bit. I never did anything wrong, so I have nothing to fear. Only takes 20 minutes or so.


Originally Posted By xpired:
I don't mind it. Actually, I'm glad they do it as it shows they don't want to be selling to a felon.



Me either.


Ok, which one of you is Sarah Brady, and which one is Diane Feinstein?

Link Posted: 8/27/2009 4:00:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
It just annoys me that they took away our CCW exemption to the Brady check


This right here... Piss me off to no end


Me too. $25.00 my ass.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 4:01:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jeff_1:
Originally Posted By greatwhite:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By Triptech:

Originally Posted By greatwhite:
I get the distinct feeling the NICS checks are just a way to get another 10 bucks out of me though. CHL ought to be good enough not to have to pay the stupid NICS checks everytime.


I am waiting for them to add another zero to the end of that 10 bucks though... for each check.

I am sure that is on the agenda...


Y'all pay ten bucks on top of the gun purchase?




Yes sir.



And that is for an in store purchase?[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif[/img]

You need to do some negotiating





Yep. As far as I'm concerned it amounts to another tax. I have no doubt they will raise that fee but not a chance in hell of lowering it. Gun rights groups in OR have worked to pass legislation to allow CHL holders to purchase without the check and it failed. No doubt because they don't want to lose the revenue stream. That and the liberal Reps objecting to it.
Link Posted: 8/27/2009 4:01:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/27/2009 4:03:36 PM EST by Flogger23m]
Originally Posted By Riotgun:
Ok, which one of you is Sarah Brady, and which one is Diane Feinstein?




Anything that makes it harder for a felon to get a gun is fine by me. As long as it makes sense. Closing down the legal market means they only have the black market to turn to.

But oh, I see. Lets start name calling other people that disagree with you.

Originally Posted By Riotgun:
It makes me feel like a subject.

I'm sure it makes many people feel safe from the scary black felons.


Which of one you is the closet white bed sheet wearer?


Originally Posted By rushfan:

Me too. $25.00 my ass.


$25 my ass to. It should be free. Or $5 at the most.

Getting ready to fork over $35 for a PPT/DROS Saturday when I am buying a Yugo SKS w/extra stock set and bipod for $240. Add the dumb gunlock requirement in CA, and I am paying $40 or so. That is what, 10% or so of the entire cost for my rifle?
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