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Posted: 4/16/2002 1:40:00 PM EST
Where does it say everyone is governmentally entitled to "40 acres and a mule?"
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 1:45:48 PM EST
Probably way back in the 1800's at one point. Btw, Happy Julibee day in Wash DC. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 1:47:27 PM EST
The 1860's actually. Had to do with freed slaves after the civil war. http://www.civilwarhome.com/freedmen.htm Man history lessons were good for something. In 1863 the war department created the "American Freedmen's Inquiry Commission" to suggest methods for dealing with emancipated slaves. The commission's key conclusion was that no bureau or agency set up to help the ex-slaves should become a permanent institution but should instead encourage the negros to become self-reliant as quickly as possible. Out of this commission's report, was born, on March 4, 1865, the Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands, also known as the "Freedmen's Bureau." Despite it's official title it's main purpose was to help the more than four million former slaves, most with any resources or education populating the South after the war. Congress created the Freedman's Bureau, with a life span of just one year, to distribute clothing, food, and fuel to destitute freedmen and to oversee "all subjects relating to their condition" in the South. The bureau was not granted a separate budget for its work, but instead drew funds from the Department of War. Heading the bureau was none other than General Oliver O. Howard, a graduate of Bowdoin and West point and a very distinguished Civil War veteran. A devout church goer and fervent civil rights advocate, Howard helped manage the bureau's approximately 900 agents. One of the most difficult challenges of the bureau was instituting a judicial system that would be fair to both blacks and whites. At first, the bureau established its own judicial authority, with local agents setting up temporary three-man courts to hear individual disputes between white employees who were dealing for the first time with black employees demanding fair wages. Without adequate manpower or financial resources for such an enormous undertaking, however, the bureau instead worked to persuade the Southern states to recognize racial equality in their own judicial proceedings. Bureau agents monitored state and local legal affairs and often intervened on behalf of blacks. Introducing a system of free labor economy was another of the bureau's responsibilities. The bureau's goal in this respect was to return the ex-slaves to plantation labor, which was still essential to the Southern economy, but to do so under conditions that would allow blacks to work their way up and out of the labor class. One way to accomplish this was to distribute lands confiscated or abandoned during the war-some 850,000 acres in 1865-to newly freed slaves. "Forty acres and a mule" was the slogan for the Reconstruction land-grant plan, but in the end only about 2,000 South Carolina and 1,500 Georgia freedmen actually received the land they had been promised-less than one percent of the four million ex-slaves populating the South.
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 2:43:12 PM EST
So... In other words, this whole "40 acres/mule" thing was just a "saying," not a law? If this is the case, then the whole reparations issue is totally bunk (as if it was not already before).
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 2:48:29 PM EST
As of right now, there is no reparations. That hasn't stopped blacks from successfully claiming a $40,000 credit this year and receiving it. It seems that the IRS is even more pathetic then we realize. They better collect every penny they send out or I'm claiming an Affirmative Action Discrimination Reparation payment next year. Atleast the Clinton admin isn't in office anymore. What a bunch of idiots who brought this forward!
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 4:58:54 PM EST
Actually it isn't as simple as that. It was part of an act of congress creating the Freedmen's Bureau. In this act they say SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That the commissioner, under the direction of the President, shall have authority to set apart, for the use of loyal refugees and freedmen, such tracts of land within the insurrectionary states as shall have been abandoned, or to which the United States shall have acquired title by confiscation or sale, or otherwise, and to every male citizen, whether refugee or freedman, as aforesaid, there shall be assigned not more than forty acres of such land, and the person to whom it was so assigned shall be protected in the use and enjoyment of the land for the term of three years at an annual rent not exceeding six per centum upon the value of such land, as it was appraised by the state authorities in the year eighteen hundred and sixty, for the purpose of taxation, and in case no such appraisal can be found, then the rental shall be based upon the estimated value of the land in said year, to be ascertained in such manner as the commissioner may by regulation prescribe. At the end of said term, or at any time during said term, the occupants of any parcels so assigned may purchase the land and receive such title thereto as the United States can convey, upon paying therefor the value of the land, as ascertained and fixed for the purpose of determining the annual rent aforesaid. http://www.freedmensbureau.com/ So not more than 40 acres, but it does not specify how many.
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 7:40:08 PM EST
I think that they should be given their 40 acres and a mule. Land near Yucca Mountain, Nevada is cheap and will get considerably cheaper in the near future. They can have a 40-acre parcel of that. The mule, well, if they really want their mule I'm sure we can dredge a few up somewhere.
Link Posted: 4/16/2002 9:49:27 PM EST
Whew Andrew! Good info, but that cut n'paste stuff needs to be cleaned up to be more readable. Ouch. Legalease is hard enough to read... Guess they will have to come up with their own mule. Not to mention that it looks like they could only RENT the land for a period of 3 years. They were not entitled to free land per se...
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