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Posted: 4/28/2009 1:34:54 PM EDT
. . .  the plain old every day flu.

"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."

When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo.  Until then, I'll be in my bunk.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:36:03 PM EDT
[#1]
Ban flu!
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:37:30 PM EDT
[#2]
The swine flu is supposed to be bad because it will infect a helluva lot more people than regular flu
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:37:43 PM EDT
[#3]
...ammo envy?  That's my guess and I'm sticking to it.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:37:52 PM EDT
[#4]
I think I have posted that about 5 times in the flu threads, it does not stop the Y2K flu.
NOTHING can stop the Y2K flu, and nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:38:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
The swine flu is supposed to be bad because it will infect a helluva lot more people than regular flu


and its more dangerous to people with healthy immune systems
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:39:01 PM EDT
[#6]
I've got the pre-ban flu so I'm good.

People only worry about what the media pushes down their throats.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
The swine flu is supposed to be bad because it will infect a helluva lot more people than regular flu


This and the fact that it kills a different age group than the standard flu.  I am 26.  When I get the flu I say "dang it" and spend a few days at home.  If I get swine flew, my awesome (really––I take no meds when I get sick other than maybe some advil) immune system could kill me.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:39:03 PM EDT
[#8]
In the mean time, what news aren't we hearing because it's 24/7 flu?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:39:41 PM EDT
[#9]




Quoted:

. . . the plain old every day flu.



"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."



When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo. Until then, I'll be in my bunk.


Good to keep things in perspective, thanks.



Reported deaths in Mexico have gone from 68 on Saturday to over 150 today. If it keeps increasing by 50 or so per day, I won't worry. If it keeps doubling every 3 days, I'll worry.





Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:41:08 PM EDT
[#10]
The difference here is that this flu can supposedly take out the best and healthiest among us whereas the the 36k that normally get taken out are mostly old or with already compromised immune systems.


-JTP
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:41:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:42:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Dems need to coin this an assault flu and just ban it to make us safer.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:42:34 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:

Quoted:
. . . the plain old every day flu.

"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."

When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo. Until then, I'll be in my bunk.

Good to keep things in perspective, thanks.

Reported deaths in Mexico have gone from 68 on Saturday to over 150 today. If it keeps increasing by 50 or so per day, I won't worry. If it keeps doubling every 3 days, I'll worry.




this is assuming mexico is giving truthful numbers
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:44:42 PM EDT
[#14]
The big WTF?

Before Tuesday, only one person had been hospitalized for swine flu in the United States, which appears to have been hit by a much milder virus than the one suspected of causing over 150 deaths in Mexico, the epicenter of the outbreak.

The United States has the second highest swine flu infection rate after Mexico, where officials put the likely toll from the virus at 152 Tuesday. Twenty of the deaths in Mexico have been firmly linked to the virus.


Did it get milder during travel or what???  


ETA the link
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:45:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Yes. 37,000 a year die.

37.5 MILLION get infected.

Mortality rate of normal flu: .01%
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:48:05 PM EDT
[#16]
So fuckin what?  It's the flu, you feel like shit, then you go on with life.  Not that hard...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 1:49:06 PM EDT
[#17]
Bush's fault
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:22:48 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
The difference here is that this flu can supposedly take out the best and healthiest among us whereas the the 36k that normally get taken out are mostly old or with already compromised immune systems.


-JTP


Could it just be that it has killed the most in a crappy, over populated city with a shitty medical system?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:25:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
. . .  the plain old every day flu.

"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."

When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo.  Until then, I'll be in my bunk.


Yep.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:28:13 PM EDT
[#20]
just wait till the mexicans see that noone in the US is dying (if it stays that way) and the mexicans keep dying. they will see that and be like, OH SHIT THE US MUST HAVE BETTER MEDICINE. and they will fucking blitzkreig the border.

 
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:30:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
just wait till the mexicans see that noone in the US is dying (if it stays that way) and the mexicans keep dying. they will see that and be like, OH SHIT THE US MUST HAVE BETTER MEDICINE. and they will fucking blitzkreig the border.  


Yesterday's news down Mexico way.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:33:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The difference here is that this flu can supposedly take out the best and healthiest among us whereas the the 36k that normally get taken out are mostly old or with already compromised immune systems.


-JTP


Could it just be that it has killed the most in a crappy, over populated city with a shitty medical system?


Mortality rate of 6%.

That means 94 out of 100 are FINE.... we aren't talking ebola here. So it's not likely that some of the first cases in any newly exposed area would be fatal.

The danger (to society/economy) isn't in the chance of one person dying.... but rather how many get it, like I said... 37.5 MILLION get sick from the flu on average. It just depends on how virulent this strain is.  We have just passed 100 cases in the US.  We'll see if the numbers rise or not.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:36:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Ban flu!


This.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:37:41 PM EDT
[#24]
I'm going to walmart now, I am going to lick the handles of every cart just to prove you guys wrong.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:44:37 PM EDT
[#25]
Maybe because when it mutated it combined, with Mexican DNA, so it could be more lethal to Mexicans.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:45:07 PM EDT
[#26]




Quoted:

I'm going to walmart now, I am going to lick the handles of every cart just to prove you guys wrong.








Do that in Mexico and I'll be...



well I was going to say impressed but that's really not the word for it...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:46:11 PM EDT
[#27]
I support mandatory flu registration.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:46:20 PM EDT
[#28]



Quoted:


. . .  the plain old every day flu.



"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."



When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo.  Until then, I'll be in my bunk.


Thank you for this post.

I've been trying to tell this to everybody who has been panicked for the last two days.




 
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:50:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
. . .  the plain old every day flu.

"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."

When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo.  Until then, I'll be in my bunk.


That works out to 99 people per day each year.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:50:57 PM EDT
[#30]
What percentage of that 36,000 are old?



Old people die from something.  Flu/pneumonia are frequently only the final straw.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:54:14 PM EDT
[#31]
36,000 people who are on Darwins waiting list. This flu is supposed to be harder on you the healthier you are I guess.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:56:04 PM EDT
[#32]




Quoted:

I'm going to walmart now, I am going to lick the handles of every cart just to prove you guys wrong.








Dibs on ammo, optics and firearms.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:57:08 PM EDT
[#33]





Quoted:



36,000 people who are on Darwins waiting list. This flu is supposed to be harder on you the healthier you are I guess.



Yep, old and young with weak immune systems die from everyday flu.

 






This swine flu has been hitting the gym, and can take out some healthy folks that don't expect it.

 
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 2:57:22 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
36,000 people who are on Darwins waiting list. This flu is supposed to be harder on you the healthier you are I guess.


Which so far has not been the case, as far as we can tell...with the news on flu 24/7.



Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:00:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Until then, I'll be in my bunker.


Fixed it for ya!  
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:00:23 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm going to walmart now, I am going to lick the handles of every cart just to prove you guys wrong.



Do that in Mexico and I'll be...

well I was going to say impressed but that's really not the word for it...


There was a confirmed case of a boy in Lorain County.

I could almost hit Lorain county with a 155mm howitzer from here.

Really I am not a disgusting person (in reality, I'm slightly morey conscious about germs than your average person), however I do have a terrible habit of biting my nails.

Time will tell if this shopping trip will be fatal.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:00:36 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

Quoted:
36,000 people who are on Darwins waiting list. This flu is supposed to be harder on you the healthier you are I guess.

Yep, old and young with weak immune systems die from everyday flu.  

This swine flu has been hitting the gym, and can take out some healthy folks that don't expect it.
 


In the US, our medical system has access to things that the folks in MX don't...

For example if your 'immune system is killing you', there are immunosupressant drugs...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:01:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Does anyone else see a little V for vendetta with the current events? war, pandemic, socialist president waiting to seize control etc etc
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:01:43 PM EDT
[#39]
"This flu is designed to kill indiscriminantly when spray fired from the mouth or nose...........nobody has a right to have this flu, and our bill supports the banning of this flu and copycat viruses with similar features"

Quoted:
I support mandatory flu registration.


Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:02:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Mexico's Health Secretary, Jose Cordova, said only 16 of the deaths have been confirmed to have been caused by the new strain, through testing at government laboratories. Samples from 44 other people who died were still being tested. The health department put the total number of people sickened at around 943 nationwide.

Cordova said samples also were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, to determine whether it's the same virus infecting seven people in Texas and California. As of now, tests show the flu is a "new, different strain ... that originally came from pigs," he said.

"We certainly have 60 deaths that we can't be sure are from the same virus, but it is probable," Cordova told MVS radio in Mexico City.

Cordova described a chilling new strain that had killed only people among the normally less-vulnerable young and mid-adult age range."



The story is 3 days old.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:02:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
just wait till the mexicans see that noone in the US is dying (if it stays that way) and the mexicans keep dying. they will see that and be like, OH SHIT THE US MUST HAVE BETTER MEDICINE. and they will fucking blitzkreig the border.  


This
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:05:30 PM EDT
[#42]



Quoted:


. . .  the plain old every day flu.



"The number of influenza-associated (i.e., flu-related) deaths varies from year to year because flu seasons often fluctuate in length and severity. CDC estimated that about 36,000 people died of flu-related causes each year, on average, during the 1990s in the United States."



When the latest swine flu "epidemic" reaches this level of deaths in the United States, send me a memo.  Until then, I'll be in my bunk.
Once you see *four* deaths, the government will usurp control of Health Care.



They won't let a crisis go to waste, even when it's manufactured.





 
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:05:33 PM EDT
[#43]
The flu? Damn. I thought it was Lupus.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:07:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Yes. 37,000 a year die.

37.5 MILLION get infected.

Mortality rate of normal flu: .01%


Is .1% or .01%?

If .01% ... multiply by 600 to get 6%.

37,000 * 600 = 22,200,000

fun times.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:08:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Ban him for posting the truth!

I agree, this is being hyped up to be something its not.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:17:32 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The difference here is that this flu can supposedly take out the best and healthiest among us whereas the the 36k that normally get taken out are mostly old or with already compromised immune systems.


-JTP


Could it just be that it has killed the most in a crappy, over populated city with a shitty medical system?


Mortality rate of 6%.

That means 94 out of 100 are FINE.... we aren't talking ebola here. So it's not likely that some of the first cases in any newly exposed area would be fatal.

The danger (to society/economy) isn't in the chance of one person dying.... but rather how many get it, like I said... 37.5 MILLION get sick from the flu on average. It just depends on how virulent this strain is.  We have just passed 100 cases in the US.  We'll see if the numbers rise or not.



My point exactly, would the 6% have died if they had a decent medical system that they could trust to treat them?  I will be surprised to find that our mortality rate gets as high.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:18:53 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Quoted:
just wait till the mexicans see that noone in the US is dying (if it stays that way) and the mexicans keep dying. they will see that and be like, OH SHIT THE US MUST HAVE BETTER MEDICINE. and they will fucking blitzkreig the border.  


This


Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:37:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Oh shit, I feel ill after reading this thread did I get the Piggy Flu ?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 3:46:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Ok? Thanks.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 4:21:34 PM EDT
[#50]
Oh no! I've been sneezing like crazy, and now that I think of it, my throat feels scratchy, MY THROAT FEELS SCRATCHY!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG I GOTZ DA PIGGY FLUE!!!!!!!




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