357 mag 4" Bbl self defense round

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 357 mag 4" Bbl self defense round

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:14:34 AM EDT

I posted this in the ammo section, thought I would get more traffic here http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=20&t=83133

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:19:00 AM EDT

[#1]

this is for the highway, inside the house

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:24:03 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
I posted this in the ammo section, thought I would get more traffic here http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=20&t=83133

Why not post it in the revolver section?

BTW, I went with the Cor-Bon XPB with the GS a distant second.

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:24:26 AM EDT

[#3]

Can't go wrong with the 125gr corbon load or golden saber. I prefer 158gr lead semi-wadcutter, but that's old school.

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:29:40 AM EDT

[#4]

Mine is loaded with some 38Spl +P old school Hydra-Shocks. Cor-Bon makes a 357 round marketed as a self defense load. e.

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:31:24 AM EDT

[#5]

Any reasonably decent name brand SJHP round in .357Mag is going to function just fine for you.
For the 2 legged variety of threat, .357 Mag is going to do the trick with ball ammo.....a good hollow point is sufficient....high end boutique ammo is not required.

Posted: 9/19/2009 11:32:50 AM EDT

[#6]

ya know Corbon makes a 125gr JHP and 125gr DPX, right?

my vote is for the 165gr R-P Core-Lokt or 140gr Federal Vital-Shok which uses Barnes' most excellent, all-copper XPB bullet

Posted: 9/19/2009 12:09:55 PM EDT

[#7]

winchester 145 Silver tip hollow points, Speer 125 and 158 grain gold dots, remington 125 grain sjhp. These are just to name a few. I can name many others if you wish to know. Those are 357 rounds

Posted: 9/19/2009 6:11:47 PM EDT

[#8]

Whatever you pick, take it out at night some time and shoot it in the dark.
I discovered that some .357 loads –– particularly Silvertips –– have unusually bright muzzle flash, and can make you temporarily night blind.
Try before you carry.

ETA –– At one time, Remington made something called a "Medium Velocity" load. Halfway between .38 +P and full-charge .357. I've got half a box left. Seemed like a really good idea; don't know if they still make it.

Posted: 9/19/2009 6:18:58 PM EDT

[#9]

Rem or winchester 125 grain semi jacketed hollow points....magnum loads.

Posted: 9/19/2009 6:36:13 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I posted this in the ammo section, thought I would get more traffic here http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=20&t=83133

Why not post it in the revolver section?

oh yea,

thanks for your opinions guys

Posted: 9/19/2009 6:38:37 PM EDT

[#11]

Some numbers.

Four layers of denim, two layers of cotton, 10% ballistic gel.
Double Tap .357Mag 125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" penetration / .69" expansion.
Double Tap .357Mag 158gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 19.0" penetration / .56" expansion.

The 125gr. by Double Tap is loaded hot and still under penetrates.

158gr all the way, everyday.

Posted: 9/19/2009 6:47:20 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

Some numbers.

Four layers of denim, two layers of cotton, 10% ballistic gel.

Double Tap .357Mag 125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" penetration / .69" expansion.

Double Tap .357Mag 158gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 19.0" penetration / .56" expansion.

The 125gr. by Double Tap is loaded hot and still under penetrates.

158gr all the way, everyday.

12.75" of the 125 meets FBI & IWBA criteria of a MINIUM of 12"

the 19" of the 158gr exceeds the Maximum criteria of 18"

Both will work, personally I'd go with the 125.

Posted: 9/19/2009 6:48:56 PM EDT

[#13]

Everthing I've read, the consensus seems to be 125 gr hollow point such as GoldDot.

That's what my wife keeps in her RugerSP101 .357 mag.
This load is perfect for personal defense distances.

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Posted: 9/19/2009 6:55:47 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

.. .357 Mag is going to do the trick with ball ammo.......

Any .357 mag FMJ 'ball' would be equivalent to 9mm (.355) 'ball', hardly a well respected fight stopper.

If you are going to use an underpowered weapon (just about any Handgun) go with a proven expanding round to maximize your chances of stopping the threat RFN!

Posted: 9/19/2009 7:05:40 PM EDT

[#15]

I really don't have any idea nowadays, with all the new rounds out. But IIRC, the #1 round for 1 shot stops with a 357. Used to be the Federal 125gr Jacketed Hollow point. I believe this was DOJ statistics. I'm out of that realm now, so I'm sure someone here is more up on it. That's what I have

Posted: 9/19/2009 7:09:02 PM EDT

[#16]

Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel Personal Protection Ammunition for teh win.....

135gr JHP SB
990fps from a 2" barrel

#23917

Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:21 PM EDT

[#17]

Several years ago, I did extensive testing with 4" S&W revolvers (66, 686 custom, 28): for accuracy and controllability, every S&W handgun preferred the heavier bullet. 300 factory rounds were fired per handgun.

This was a test with factory ammo from three manufacturers, in bullet weights of 110 (Rem), 125 (Rem, Speer), and 145 (Win). The Winchester Silvertip was more accurate than any load. I tested no 158 grain loads, but they have a strong reputation among S&W aficionados. I've also had very good results with 158 handloads in both .38 and .357. The old "FBI load" in 158 was very accurate.

I realize three revolvers is not a representative sample, but consider it a minor contribution to your search.

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