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Posted: 4/15/2017 7:21:53 AM EDT
Two men have been arrested after allegedly trying to smuggle thousands of pounds of empty cans and bottles into California to cash in
the containers for approximately $20,000 in state recycling fees,
officials said this week.


The arrests were made during a five-day recycling fraud sting operation conducted in Riverside County by multiple state agencies between March
13 and March 17, according to a news release from CalRecycle.


http://ktla.com/2017/04/14/2-arrested-after-allegedly-smuggling-recyclables-worth-an-estimated-20000-into-california/
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:24:13 AM EDT
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I thought they wanted people to recycle.  Who cares where a can came from.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:27:17 AM EDT
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They should've waited until Mother's Day, when they send the extra truck.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:27:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:29:57 AM EDT
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Pick up that can ! .....but not that one, you pick up that one and you're going to prison.

Pick up that.....other can !
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:30:33 AM EDT
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What's more shocking is there's a law against bringing in material to recycle anyhow.  People actually took time to worry about that.  

Sure glad I don't live there
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:34:43 AM EDT
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They were not trying to get scrap cost for the cans

If there is a deposit on the can it was not paid if the can came out of state, therefore the $20k they were trying to get was not 'funded'
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:41:06 AM EDT
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Oh, well that changes everything...

Fucking California.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:41:09 AM EDT
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No wonder Cali is broke.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 7:42:35 AM EDT
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Pick up that can ! .....but not that one, you pick up that one and you're going to prison.

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Hahaha

I couldn't even make this shit up. 

Fuckn California 
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:01:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:07:34 AM EDT
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This has been going on for years. I have frequently seen pickups with high side boards towing 16 ft trailers with high side boards pack full with plastic bottles crossing into California at the Yuma/Winterton border. California never did shit because they were shooting for high recycling numbers to show their nickel a container recycling tax was working.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:10:22 AM EDT
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Was it these guys?

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Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:11:49 AM EDT
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Recycling fraud? this shit is getting ridiculous.....
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:14:01 AM EDT
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Bizzaro world.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:21:43 AM EDT
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I feel safer now that those thugs are off the streets...  
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:24:45 AM EDT
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Pick up that.....other can !
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Pick up that can ! .....but not that one, you pick up that one and you're going to prison.

Pick up that.....other can !
Lol, "You picked up the wrong can, friendo.  Now you're going to get butt-fucked in prison!"
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:25:28 AM EDT
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The natural progression in criminal activities does go from recycling, straight to murder.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:28:33 AM EDT
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I bet you can tell which guys are the smugglers JUST BY LOOKING AT THEM!
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:28:57 AM EDT
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MI has similar laws for returning cans. My inferior IL cans will not be accepted in the Jerkin Hand.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:31:41 AM EDT
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Themz the rulz
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:36:07 AM EDT
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Who's to say those cans and bottles weren't purchased in California, taken to an out of state wedding and are just being returned?

Prove they weren't.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:36:50 AM EDT
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They're simply making up for all the cans/bottles that Kali residents dumped in the landfill.  Do you have any evidence this program is paying out more than it's taking in?
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:37:44 AM EDT
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MI the superior state, has a 10 cents per container deposit.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:40:44 AM EDT
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Cali arresting Hispanics over recycling fraud one at an agricultural checkpoint, I gotta see how this one plays out, hopefully an illegal, and some other ethnic groups are involved just to spice things up.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:42:21 AM EDT
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Lol, felony recycling.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:52:23 AM EDT
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If it says CA refund on the can they should have to take it.  Personally I've always thought the can bottle refund thing was stupid, but its even more ridiculous to arrest people for it.  If they didn't want people to do it then they need to establish state line export controls to keep cans in CA.  No way they can do that, so fuck em when someone takes a CA can to CA and asks them to pay up.  Stupid CA trying to bend a law to suit their needs while ignoring the real problems they have.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:55:12 AM EDT
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You mean like everything the CA Government does?

TC
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:57:05 AM EDT
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When I was a little kid in the late 70's and early 80's we were poor and my folks didn't have good jobs.  We lived near the Oregon border in rural Idaho and would walk the highway picking up cans to take them to Oregon for the deposit.  Life got a lot better when Reagan took office.

But I've been a felon since then.  Apparently.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:57:22 AM EDT
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TC
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 8:57:36 AM EDT
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Good, fuck them




















Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:05:26 AM EDT
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What did the recycling felon say when asked

" Why did you think it was OK to break the law ? "









The felon said  " Because I CAN ! "
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:14:36 AM EDT
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I live in Vegas and every other Friday in my hood is recycling day.  Between late Thursday and early Friday morning you will see families in pickup trucks going into every subdivision raiding all the aluminum and plastic bottles to take to Cali for the $$$$.  Been going on for many many years.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:24:57 AM EDT
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California created a market and then is shocked when capitalism happens .
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:35:38 AM EDT
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"Why won't you follow our laws" say liberals as they encourage people to ignore some laws and refuse to investigate "minor" crimes.

Fuck 'em.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:42:08 AM EDT
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he hates these cans...
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:43:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:45:21 AM EDT
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Kramer and Newman?  
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Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:46:00 AM EDT
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$20,000 in legally obtained product, 5 day investigation.

Any guesses as to what this 5 day recycling fraud investigation cost?
I mean you have pay, overtime, transportation etc.

Probably cost them $100k to break up this criminal enterprise.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:47:15 AM EDT
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Bbbut they fund illegals and their healthcare, education, incarceration.... ?

Seems California has plenty o money for its own illegal schemes .... go figure
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:48:34 AM EDT
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Stay away from the cans!!!


Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:48:56 AM EDT
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$20,000 in legally obtained product, 5 day investigation.

Any guesses as to what this 5 day recycling fraud investigation cost?
I mean you have pay, overtime, transportation etc.

Probably cost them $100k to break up this criminal enterprise.
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Think about the evidence storage costs!
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:52:07 AM EDT
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When a state has no deposit, or lower deposit than its neighbor, border towns have a big problem with this. We get it in IA too-people from Minnesota returning out of state cans for IA deposit. Big problem. It gets to the point that more money is being paid in refunds than taken in deposit-all so supplement some skank's welfare check.
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In this communist shit-hole they get mad when I recycle anything that doesn't have a deposit. Its a feel good thing but more importantly another source of tax $$$
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:53:27 AM EDT
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That blows my goddamn mind. I would never in 1,000 years think bringing cans and bottles into a state would be a crime.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:54:01 AM EDT
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No, but then they have several bags of cans in their vehicle, keep going back for another bag, and the vehicle has out of state plates it's easy.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:54:59 AM EDT
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Don't need to store it. Take pics, measure the weight, describe it in the report.   Not required to keep trash as evidence.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:55:21 AM EDT
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cant catch or deport illegal alien cartel members though....good job ever vigilant prioritizing California
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:56:43 AM EDT
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The state cares.  It only wants to pay out on containers sold here, and the law is really weird.

There is no California Redemption Value (CRV) collected on wine bottles, which have a lot more glass than a beer bottle.  The closest recycling place to me is always very busy.  They pay most people by weight, for beer bottles by the trash can load.  A lot of people sneak wine bottles into their loads to increase the weight, and the recycler doesn't make much effort to stop them (they get reimbursed by the state for whatever they pay out.)  They will stop you from including wine bottles IF THEY HAPPEN TO SEE THEM, but they don't look very hard.
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No, but then they have several bags of cans in their vehicle, keep going back for another bag, and the vehicle has out of state plates it's easy.
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