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Posted: 4/17/2017 8:29:21 PM EDT
1.  He will be 74 years old, tired of the Washington DC political bullshit, and wanting to spend time with Barron and Melania.

2.  He doesn't like to lose, and an incumbent President losing his seat is pretty damn embarrassing if not downright humiliating.

3.  He will realize Washington DC is beyond his ability to fix, particularly with the GOPe quietly obstructing him.


So I'm calling it now: He will announce he is not running for re-election in 2020 but will stump like hell to get Pence elected.

And he will use his last months to call for an Article V convention to amend the Constitution to add term limits on Congressmen, term/age limits on the judiciary, and certain other amendments.

This is not a comment on his performance as President so far, just a realization that a man like him who is used to making stuff happen will be unbelievably frustrated by DC politics and will consider that his options advocating outside DC as a former President may be more conducive to reform than inside DC -- especially if he is a former President who elected not to run again and thus was not a defeated President.

Discuss.

ALTERNATIVE:  He drops his "Drain The Swamp" agenda, fires Steve Bannon, disassociates himself with his centipedes, goes all in as a GOPe/globalist/Deep State cocksucker.  If he does that, he might seek and get a 2nd term.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:31:01 PM EDT
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Wrong


Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:32:07 PM EDT
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We placing bets now?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:32:33 PM EDT
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I agree; he will not run for re-election.  Before he goes, he will go full bore scorched earth at BOTH parties.

It will be glorious. People will only see the fruits of his genius many, many years after his passing. And he WILL go down in History as Legendary.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:33:06 PM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:34:18 PM EDT
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I agree; he will not run for re-election.  Before he goes, he will go full bore scorched earth at BOTH parties.

It will be glorious. People will only see the fruits of his genius many, many years after his passing. And he WILL go down in History as Legendary
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Someone needs to photoshop Trump's head into this video:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/LUsLDzXWUU4[/youtube]
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:36:02 PM EDT
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If Trump can't get the WH moved to Mar-A-Lago you might be right.  
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:36:11 PM EDT
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One of his spawn will run and win in a landslide.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:36:39 PM EDT
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ALTERNATIVE:  He drops his "Drain The Swamp" agenda, fires Steve Bannon, disassociates himself with his centipedes, goes all in as a GOPe/globalist/Deep State cocksucker.  If he does that, he might seek and get a 2nd term.
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Not with my vote.
I'm a tad disappointed with certain reversals lately, but didn't have any real expectations going in, so it's been a wash.
He needs to focus on 1. Securing our borders 2. slashing taxes 3. slashing bureaucracy 4. repealing O'Care 5. elevating our military.
That's it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:36:51 PM EDT
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He'll drop out any day now.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:38:34 PM EDT
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FHRC is gonna win. Trump will drop out because he can't stand to lose.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:39:28 PM EDT
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It is hard for men to walk away from power
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:42:36 PM EDT
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FHRC is gonna win. Trump will drop out because he can't stand to lose.
I wasn't in that camp. I voted for him.

I am not anti-Trump and wasn't a NeverTrumper.  I'm just not convinced he knew exactly how corrupt and frustrating Washington DC politics is, and I'm not convinced he's willing to take on a second term to fix it all.  I want him to succeed with his campaign promises and would vote for him again if the election was tomorrow.  But there comes a point when even the best people objectively realize that an organization's problems are bigger than what they can do to fix it from within, and thus those people reassess how to tackle the problem (if they don't walk away entirely).

If he keeps fighting the good fight like he has been so far, I hope he tries for a 2nd term and gets it.  But right now I'm not so sure.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:43:59 PM EDT
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1.  He will be 74 years old, tired of the Washington DC political bullshit, and wanting to spend time with Barron and Melania.

2.  He doesn't like to lose, and an incumbent President losing his seat is pretty damn embarrassing if not downright humiliating.

3.  He will realize Washington DC is beyond his ability to fix, particularly with the GOPe quietly obstructing him.

So I'm calling it now: He will announce he is not running for re-election in 2020 but will stump like hell to get Pence elected.

And he will use his last months to call for an Article V convention to amend the Constitution to add term limits on Congressmen, term/age limits on the judiciary, and certain other amendments.

This is not a comment on his performance as President so far, just a realization that a man like him who is used to making stuff happen will be unbelievably frustrated by DC politics and will consider that his options advocating outside DC as a former President may be more conducive to reform than inside DC -- especially if he is a former President who elected not to run again and thus was not a defeated President.

Discuss.

ALTERNATIVE:  He drops his "Drain The Swamp" agenda, fires Steve Bannon, disassociates himself with his centipedes, goes all in as a GOPe/globalist/Deep State cocksucker.  If he does that, he might seek and get a 2nd term.
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What does not kill him, makes him stronger. Trump/Pence 2020, Pence/Donald Trump Jr. 2024, Pence/Trump Jr. 2028, Trump Jr./???? 2032 whose administration will lead us into interstellar space.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:45:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:45:30 PM EDT
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FPNI.

4 years is not enough time to MAGA.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:47:47 PM EDT
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Hey OP...you could be right but everything Ive seen him say on this very subject is to the contrary. We will see who knows 3yrs from now.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:50:26 PM EDT
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Hasn't he already trademarked a slogan for 2020?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:52:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:57:57 PM EDT
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1.  He will be 74 years old, tired of the Washington DC political bullshit, and wanting to spend time with Barron and Melania.

2.  He doesn't like to lose, and an incumbent President losing his seat is pretty damn embarrassing if not downright humiliating.

3.  He will realize Washington DC is beyond his ability to fix, particularly with the GOPe quietly obstructing him.

So I'm calling it now: He will announce he is not running for re-election in 2020 but will stump like hell to get Pence elected.

And he will use his last months to call for an Article V convention to amend the Constitution to add term limits on Congressmen, term/age limits on the judiciary, and certain other amendments.

This is not a comment on his performance as President so far, just a realization that a man like him who is used to making stuff happen will be unbelievably frustrated by DC politics and will consider that his options advocating outside DC as a former President may be more conducive to reform than inside DC -- especially if he is a former President who elected not to run again and thus was not a defeated President.

Discuss.

ALTERNATIVE:  He drops his "Drain The Swamp" agenda, fires Steve Bannon, disassociates himself with his centipedes, goes all in as a GOPe/globalist/Deep State cocksucker.  If he does that, he might seek and get a 2nd term.
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So you're saying he won't run, but might decide to run.   I agree. 
You and I will be correct.  Just wait and see. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:58:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 8:59:40 PM EDT
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Even before he was elected, I had the thought that if he were to win he'd be a one term President by choice. He's not a career politician, my
impression was/is he'll use his 4 years to do what he has sets out to do and be done with it. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:00:31 PM EDT
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I dunno, but he's also filed as a candidate and collected campaign funds for 2020.  

A smart man like him keeps his options open.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:01:18 PM EDT
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if he keeps fighting the good fight, I hope I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:03:01 PM EDT
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OK -- explain what G Gordon Liddy has to do with this.  

I miss his show.  I was listening the day he said "If the ATF breaks into your house and you're innocent, they're probably gonna kill you.  You have the right to shoot back in self-defense.  They wear body armor and helmets, so aim for the face."  Of course, the press reported hysterically that he advocated shooting ALL ATF agents in the face wherever you found them.  THat's when I learned not to trust the press.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:06:32 PM EDT
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Why is something like this even being brought up 88 days into his presidency?

Find something else to predict bud.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:11:41 PM EDT
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I can see him throwing in the towel and taking to the airwaves yo speak directly to the people. He would tell us that he gave it his best shot of giving this nation back to the people but the corruption is so weaved into the fabric of DC it is beyond fixing.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 9:22:58 PM EDT
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I tend to agree with you Spartacus. Trump comes from a life of business development.  After 2,4, or 6 years of the project the developer sells the project or turns it over to the arm of the corporation which focuses on long term running that project. Hopefully the long term management will grow the project too.  Even in the election I always wondered if he won't  lateral pass the Oval Office to Pence.  That might even be best in the long run. Trump's strength is getting the ship of state turned from a collision course in finance and demographics.  If he can't change that in four years the problems may require a major crash to clear the system.  Pensions are set to crash(public and private) and you can't solve our demographic problems with someone else's children.  If the structural changes can't be effected in four years then a financial and social crash is virtually certain.  I think Trump is the only major political figure able to do the needed revisions at this time. If not a second term will not be of much use.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:29:53 PM EDT
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Some of us like to think and analyze here.  If that bothers you, leave.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:50:05 PM EDT
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I don't know what'll happen in 4 years, but I know your theory is flawed from the beginning.  He's going to be 74 years  old and tired of DC bullshit?


He's sought bullshit his entire career, he loves the drama, and Alpha Type A's don't really shy away from this sort of thing.

if he goes down, he'll do down swinging, he won't walk away.  he's shitpost his way into the sunset.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:51:28 PM EDT
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Hell, this weekend I heard that he and the whole white house is going to get arrested by the end of next week..... So, we don't have to worry about 2nd term.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:51:47 PM EDT
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I don't know what'll happen in 4 years, but I know your theory is flawed from the beginning.  He's going to be 74 years  old and tired of DC bullshit?


He's sought bullshit his entire career, he loves the drama, and Alpha Type A's don't really shy away from this sort of thing.

if he goes down, he'll do down swinging, he won't walk away.  he's shitpost his way into the sunset.
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You might be right.  But cutting business deals is not the same as cutting political deals.  Profit motive =/= political power motive.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:55:18 PM EDT
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Hopefully someone flushes this TURD, after 4yrs!
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 10:55:40 PM EDT
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This often occurs when a forceful, decisive leader makes a significant change in a nation's or a business's direction. Winston Churchill is but one example.
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And we got a live one..
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:00:32 PM EDT
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And he will use his last months to call for an Article V convention to amend the Constitution to add term limits on Congressmen, term/age limits on the judiciary, and certain other amendments.
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Term limits will not have the positive effects people think it will.

Repealing the 17th amendment is a better start.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:01:51 PM EDT
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If he doesn't run he'll be stumping for Ivanka.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:04:24 PM EDT
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he wont run
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:05:31 PM EDT
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You bring up some valid points.  However I  suspect that only time will tell.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:05:45 PM EDT
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LULZ.  NO

The democrats are desperate to get a win, any win, in the next 4 years so they can state (wrongly) that America has figured out Trump is bad and they want him gone.  They gambled everything and lost everything.

President Trump WILL run again and WILL win again.  Period.  End of story.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:12:52 PM EDT
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Aren't you missing your glorious peoples revolution party meeting?

Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:15:20 PM EDT
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I think if ginsberg passes & he gets to put in a hard core young judge then he will not run but that is the only way he will pass.

As long as Ginberg breaths he has a job to do.

this post in no way promotes harm or misfortune on Ginsberg please undrstand  it as it is typed.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:15:51 PM EDT
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Yep, We'll find out in 3 years. So far he doesn't have any direction or plan it seems. Everyone hates him on both sides, & even us supporters are getting tired of the BS.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:18:28 PM EDT
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Trump isn't the kind of guy that goes quietly into the night. That ain't his MO. He will run for re-election.
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Hey, why wait? I'll flush you now.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:34:27 PM EDT
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I agree, I think he looks bored, probably pissed off he cannot get things done like he thought he would. Honestly, if things go okay for Trump, it might not be a bad idea to have Pence run. We will know 3yrs from now, if we start seeing Pence taking more of a role then we will know something may be up. I like Pence, Trump not so much, I mean personality wise.

I would like to see him repeal (if that is legally possible) Bush 1's Executive Order banning importation of Assault Weapons, he could announce it when he speaks at the NRA. That is the most important to me and probably the easiest to fix, I want SAN rifles damn it. Then I'd like to see SBR's reclassified as pistols and purchased that way. The HPA would be nice, but there doesn't seem to be any movement on that and it has a fricken' Dem supporting it.

So far he seems to be only able to focus on one internal matter at a time, healthcare. At least cut the Corp Tax, they would be fairly simple. The people he has put in as Secretaries are doing a good job IMHO, at least he didn't hire dumbfucks, except inside the WH.

I know you guys are like, give him time, give him time, but he does owe gunowners something. Not like we would have voted for Clinton anyway lol.
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