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Posted: 10/27/2013 3:21:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 4:03:02 AM EST by OscarMyer]
Another idea that originated from Arfcom from our want of diesel gas sipping cars seen on mtorweek today. Chevrolet will offer for 2014 the Cruze model 4 door sedan with a Turbo Diesel rated at 46mpg and a MSRP of $17,200 but not sure if that price is for the diesel or a Gas engine?

Looks like Detroit is listening to Arfcom and giving us what we wanted!

My excitement sits with other manufacturers following and we can purchase a similar Honda or Nissan model or diesel option for probably $2-$3,000 more if/when they come out with their comparable model.

Looking foward to hear why Arfcom hate these and we will not buy these now that they are available at an affordable price..

Link to Gm website below photo from Gm website.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze-compact-car.html

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Tools/Cruze_Diesel_Segement/01_images/2014-chevrolet-seo-diesel-cctd-980x476-01.jpg
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:22:59 AM EST
"0-60 in 7.2 hours"
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:24:44 AM EST
Did you say "Chevrolet"?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:28:15 AM EST
If they were handing those out for free and including a supermodel of my choice that could deep throat a giant eel, I'd slap the model in the mouth, set the car on fire and piss on the front door of the dealership.

Fuck GM.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:28:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 3:29:33 AM EST by _DR]
"Chevy Cruze"


No thanks.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:29:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 3:32:00 AM EST by hondaciv]
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:31:04 AM EST
Lulz
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:31:36 AM EST
Maybe a Penelope Cruze....
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:33:20 AM EST
Cruze has better HP and torque numbers than the Jetta TDI. Jetta does 0-60 in 8.0, so I imagine that the cruze will have a similar number.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:34:09 AM EST
I guess "arfcom" forgot GM's bailout then? I haven't, I won't own one.

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Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:34:10 AM EST
90% of ARFCOM that crap on GM, love their GM product



Usually the same dudes that post about how much they hate FOX news and switch to CNN and later post about how much they hate CNN because they're liberal

They are confused about whether to bean or not bean their Chili

They try to justify their manliness by wanting to shave with safety razors
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:34:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 3:35:43 AM EST by WildApple]
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.
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NO just No!
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:38:05 AM EST
OrigEuropelly Posted By OscarMyer:
Another idea that originated from Arfcom from our want of diesel gas sipping cars seen on mtorweek today. Chevrolet will offer for 2014 the Cruze model 4 door sedan with a Turbo Diesel rated at 46mpg and a MSRP of $17,200 but not sure if that price is for the diesel or a Gas engine?

Looks like Detroit is listening to Arfcom and giving us what we wanted!

Looking foward to hear why Arfcom hate these and we will not buy these now that they are available at an affordable price..

Link to Gm website below photo from Gm website.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze-compact-car.html

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Tools/Cruze_Diesel_Segement/01_images/2014-chevrolet-seo-diesel-cctd-980x476-01.jpg
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Or, Europe
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:39:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller:
If they were handing those out for free and including a supermodel of my choice that could deep throat a giant eel, I'd slap the model in the mouth, set the car on fire and piss on the front door of the dealership.

Fuck GM.
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Good rant. Not enough swear words although it is the thought that counts. I'd give it a 7/10 just for syntax alone.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:40:04 AM EST
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NO just No!
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Originally Posted By WildApple:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.



NO just No!


Actually I made a mistake. The "Eco" model of the car gets 42. It's base price is $19,935

So a 5k difference for 4 more mpg. Not as bad, but still bad.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:40:39 AM EST
WTF is a Cruze gonna do for me? My 3K Escort gets almost the same mileage and for the cost savings, I can drive dive years on what I saved at the dealership; and its gasoline, no diesel mechs needed.

Now if they got me a Suburban 4x4 that gets 46 mpg with a flex fue/ or miltifuel motor and a 15K# tow rating and a 4K# internal payload with a body that wont implode the first time you hit a trail....
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:41:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:
90% of ARFCOM that crap on GM, love their GM product



Usually the same dudes that post about how much they hate FOX news and switch to CNN and later post about how much they hate CNN because they're liberal

They are confused about whether to bean or not bean their Chili

They try to justify their manliness by wanting to shave with safety razors
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I have never owned a GM product.

I get my news from Arfcom.

I'll take chili either way. My wife doesn't eat beans at all, so our chili has no beans.

I have less body hair than most Arfcommers wives. I get by just fine with an electric.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:41:59 AM EST
The next comparable car is what? The VW Jetta? What does a Jetta sticker at?



Earlier this year when I was truck browsing, a 2013 truck could have a sticker at say $35K, but you could haggle it down to $27K or $28K out the door.

So a $25K sticker on a 4 door diesel sedan is probably less than $20K OTD.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:42:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DougR:
Did you say "Chevrolet"?
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Always wanted a GM "Detroit Diesel".
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:46:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:48:47 AM EST
Sorry, but if they're not giving them away for free, count me out.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:49:41 AM EST
Combined fuel economy will not be near 46. IIRC, the city fuel economy is only about 29MPG, and the average is somewhere around 35 or so.

Not bad, don't get me wrong, but not all that much to write home about.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:57:24 AM EST
I wish you luck if you bought GM.
I also hope you get the thing paid for before the design flaws GM won't or can't fix get to be a bother.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:58:08 AM EST
Any aftermarket performance parts available yet?

Do they come in stick shift?

How about a hatchback?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 3:59:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By OscarMyer:
Another idea that originated from Arfcom from our want of diesel gas sipping cars seen on mtorweek today. Chevrolet will offer for 2014 the Cruze model 4 door sedan with a Turbo Diesel rated at 46mpg and a MSRP of $17,200 but not sure if that price is for the diesel or a Gas engine?

Looks like Detroit is listening to Arfcom and giving us what we wanted!

Looking foward to hear why Arfcom hate these and we will not buy these now that they are available at an affordable price..

Link to Gm website below photo from Gm website.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze-compact-car.html

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Tools/Cruze_Diesel_Segement/01_images/2014-chevrolet-seo-diesel-cctd-980x476-01.jpg
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I have the Eco model. 6 speed MT. I get up to 52mpg. All gas..
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:02:00 AM EST
The idea of deisel cars originated on this website?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:04:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By KTMsx:
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Yes along with "87".
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:05:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 4:05:42 AM EST by OscarMyer]
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I have the Eco model. 6 speed MT. I get up to 52mpg. All gas..
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Originally Posted By JMichael99:
Originally Posted By OscarMyer:
Another idea that originated from Arfcom from our want of diesel gas sipping cars seen on mtorweek today. Chevrolet will offer for 2014 the Cruze model 4 door sedan with a Turbo Diesel rated at 46mpg and a MSRP of $17,200 but not sure if that price is for the diesel or a Gas engine?

Looks like Detroit is listening to Arfcom and giving us what we wanted!

Looking foward to hear why Arfcom hate these and we will not buy these now that they are available at an affordable price..

Link to Gm website below photo from Gm website.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze-compact-car.html

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Tools/Cruze_Diesel_Segement/01_images/2014-chevrolet-seo-diesel-cctd-980x476-01.jpg



I have the Eco model. 6 speed MT. I get up to 52mpg. All gas..

Damm thats pretty good, I assume the eco is the hybrid model? Whats your hwy/city driving ratio?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:07:50 AM EST
Would much rather see a diesel in a mid-sized or full-sized model.

When your gasoline-fueled compact car is already getting 40+ MPG, there really isn't much savings in going to a diesel.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:08:37 AM EST
Screw GM. Their track record on building small cars sucks. The volt is a huge bust so now they are trying the diesel that many were asking for in the first place. Either way, I'm not buying GM........ ever.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:15:48 AM EST
Does this diesel engine have to take the urea stuff to supposedly cut down on emissions?

I've heard of other diesel autos having a "limp home mode" when it runs out of urea. That would suck!
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:20:48 AM EST
I am waiting for them to release the Colorado with a diesel.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:21:00 AM EST
Where is it built?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:22:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.
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its'll get more MPG when you rip out all the EPA crap
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:23:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By OscarMyer:

Damm thats pretty good, I assume the eco is the hybrid model? Whats your hwy/city driving ratio?
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Originally Posted By OscarMyer:
Originally Posted By JMichael99:
Originally Posted By OscarMyer:
Another idea that originated from Arfcom from our want of diesel gas sipping cars seen on mtorweek today. Chevrolet will offer for 2014 the Cruze model 4 door sedan with a Turbo Diesel rated at 46mpg and a MSRP of $17,200 but not sure if that price is for the diesel or a Gas engine?

Looks like Detroit is listening to Arfcom and giving us what we wanted!

Looking foward to hear why Arfcom hate these and we will not buy these now that they are available at an affordable price..

Link to Gm website below photo from Gm website.
http://www.chevrolet.com/cruze-compact-car.html

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam/Chevrolet/northamerica/usa/nscwebsite/en/Home/Tools/Cruze_Diesel_Segement/01_images/2014-chevrolet-seo-diesel-cctd-980x476-01.jpg



I have the Eco model. 6 speed MT. I get up to 52mpg. All gas..

Damm thats pretty good, I assume the eco is the hybrid model? Whats your hwy/city driving ratio?


Hot a hybrid. Thats why i said all gas

id have to say its 80hwy 20city. The highway has a few BIG hills. I think if it was flat interstate the entire time it would be pushing 56-57mpg

I also don't drive over 55, yes thats the speed limit
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:24:23 AM EST
Nope fuck GM....last good gm diesel was LBZ duramax
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:26:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 4:29:33 AM EST by KA3B]
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Where is it built?
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It's "assembled" at the GM Lordstown Assembly plant in Lordstown, Ohio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Delta_II_platform#Delta_II
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:28:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.
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exactly.
and diesel prices are higher than gas.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:32:36 AM EST
Meh, if Chevy had listened to ARFcom we would have this...



Either that or a medium sized pickup truck that would be just like the diesel Toyota Hilux.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 4:50:10 AM EST
I don't remember asking for a diesel powered micro car, A light pick-up yes.

There is no way I would ever drive something like a cruz.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:07:56 AM EST
Not that I would buy one, but...

...a buddy of mine bought one about 2 years ago, and I was actually impressed. It seemed solid and well-built.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:11:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 5:11:32 AM EST by disco_jon75]
Who makes those and what's the price? As I understand it, they're going to make a Costa Edition next year.

Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:12:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cardboardkiller:
If they were handing those out for free and including a supermodel of my choice that could deep throat a giant eel, I'd slap the model in the mouth, set the car on fire and piss on the front door of the dealership.

Fuck GM.
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Yo sho' is angry
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:14:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jarvo71:
I guess "arfcom" forgot GM's bailout then? I haven't, I won't own one.

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This
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:24:12 AM EST
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Yo sho' is angry
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Originally Posted By Krolden:
Originally Posted By cardboardkiller:
If they were handing those out for free and including a supermodel of my choice that could deep throat a giant eel, I'd slap the model in the mouth, set the car on fire and piss on the front door of the dealership.

Fuck GM.


Yo sho' is angry


Stifle it, 13'er.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:26:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By J75player:

its'll get more MPG when you rip out all the EPA crap
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.

its'll get more MPG when you rip out all the EPA crap


Would that void your warranty?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:31:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Jarvo71:
I guess "arfcom" forgot GM's bailout then? I haven't, I won't own one.

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What do you own?
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:31:32 AM EST
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Would that void your warranty?
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Originally Posted By Jag-grad:
Originally Posted By J75player:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.

its'll get more MPG when you rip out all the EPA crap


Would that void your warranty?


Yes.

BTW, we have been selling them since August.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:35:14 AM EST
Lets see:

Cruze:
The Cruze is a giant POS compact car.
The price for the diesel is $25K for said POS compact.

or

Mazda 6
Mid-sized chassis that consistantly wins awards.
Much better quality interior.
Somewhere around $26-27 for the diesel version IIRC. Should be available later this year.
Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:37:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Base price of the diesel is $25810

ETA: The gasser gets 42. So you pay 7k more for 4 more mpg. That's a shitload of gas.
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What about the possibility that the diesel will go 300K miles without many issues?


Link Posted: 10/27/2013 5:40:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2013 5:41:13 AM EST by RaisedByWolves]
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:


Not me. Sold my Chevy truck after the bailout.

F*ck them with a stale bread stick.
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By dangerdan:
90% of ARFCOM that crap on GM, love their GM product



Usually the same dudes that post about how much they hate FOX news and switch to CNN and later post about how much they hate CNN because they're liberal

They are confused about whether to bean or not bean their Chili

They try to justify their manliness by wanting to shave with safety razors


Not me. Sold my Chevy truck after the bailout.

F*ck them with a stale bread stick.


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