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Posted: 7/18/2008 10:13:14 AM EST






The Camaro will come in LS, LT and full-on SS specs and be available with 6-speed manual and auto transmissions. Under the bonnet sit fuel-efficient 296bhp 3.6-liter V6 and 416bhp 6.2-liter V8 engines, which can run on fewer cylinders to improve economy.

It shouldn't just be a burnout king either, handling should be pretty good thanks to an all-independent suspension setup and a StabiliTrak stability control system. 4-pot Brembo brakes front and rear shed the speed on the SS. Weight balance is split 52/48 front/rear too, but the Camaro is a porker, weighing in at more than 1,700kgs.

The interior gets cool LED lighting, leather seats on posher models and dials and gauges inspired by 1969 Camaros. The US gets the car in early 2009, while we'll get it some time after that. Super.



jalopnik.com/398828/production-2010-chevy-camaro-revealed
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:14:29 AM EST
Will GM be around long enough to produce it?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:14:55 AM EST
rental fleets will love 'em
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:15:07 AM EST
I might be willing to trade my Trans am for that...maybe.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:15:29 AM EST
Will it availble at around $20-25K? Or will they take Driges line of thinking and charge $60K.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:16:59 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:17:51 AM EST
too little, too late. Thanks anyway, GM.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:18:00 AM EST
Looks cool. I'm not real crazy about the ass end, but I still like it over all.

I don't care what the rest of you say, I'm LOVING that a guy can buy a Mustang, Challenger and (soon) Camaro.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:18:02 AM EST
Wow, a nearly 300 horse V6?

That's almost worth it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:18:12 AM EST
What's not to like about that? They didn't build 'em like that in the sixties. 416 HP is serious.

Too bad the gasoline engine is going the way of the horse and buggy. Poor GM is still a day late and a few billion dollars short.

J.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:18:19 AM EST
The interior is ugly. I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring. Typical GM. They need to hire some new designers.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:19:09 AM EST
Disgusting
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:19:10 AM EST
Will this one turn into a robot as well?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:19:24 AM EST
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:19:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By ziarifleman:
Wow, a nearly 300 horse V6?

That's almost worth it.


Not too shabby at all.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:20:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:21:19 AM EST

The front looks more like a Monte Carlo SS
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:22:09 AM EST
Meh....
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:22:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By guns762:
The interior is ugly. I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring. Typical GM. They need to hire some new designers.


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:22:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Otter-pop:
too little, too late. Thanks anyway, GM.


Right?!?... one word describes this abomination... Ugly... could they have made it look any more like a mustang and gto had a hybrid bastard child?


Now if these dumbfucks really wanted to make money... they would pull out the old forms from mothballs for the gen one body styles, change the headlights to rectangular and add all of the modern technology... independent suspension, 6 speed gearboxes.. etc, etc... all in what looks like a first gen Camaro...

THAT SHIT WOULD SELL!
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:22:50 AM EST
Doesn't look as good as the concept... but then again, they never do.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:24:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2008 10:24:49 AM EST by Subnet]

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:25:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Doesn't look as good as the concept... but then again, they never do.


Im probably in the minority here but i think this looks better than the concept.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:25:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Doesn't look as good as the concept... but then again, they never do.


Its actually not that far off from the concept.....



Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:26:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:27:41 AM EST
Looks pretty cool. Too bad I'm not on welfare and can't afford to feed it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:27:55 AM EST
I really don't like the retro design, they should have gone more modern.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:28:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By guns762:
The interior is ugly. I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring. Typical GM. They need to hire some new designers.


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.



I don't mind simple, but putting dash gauges down where the ashtray used to be is a bit silly.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:28:36 AM EST
I like them a lot. What is the price going to be?

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:29:20 AM EST
meh...whatever.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:30:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By bluezerosix:
meh...whatever.



Yeah, down with the affordable fun cars.....Ferraris, Lambos, and Porsche's that's it.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:30:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2008 10:31:20 AM EST by Subnet]

Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.


And the GT500 handles just fine, a point that's often lost on many.

Not all of us jerk off to the thought of running laps around the 'ring, or doing 3x the speed limit on public mountain roads with blind corners, or waiting with bated breath for a track day to open up 3 hours from here, or...
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:32:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2008 10:33:59 AM EST by 70satvert]
1 Challenger please.

ETA:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.


And the GT500 handles just fine, a point that's often lost on many.

Not all of us jerk off to the thought of running laps around the 'ring, or doing 3x the speed limit on public mountain roads with blind corners, or waiting with bated breath for a track day to open up 3 hours from here, or...


Yep, some of us are quite content going fast in a straight line.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:33:46 AM EST
Like it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:34:38 AM EST
Cmon.. what happened to curves?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:35:56 AM EST
I'll wait for the firebird version :D

for all the haters: What else are you going to buy?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:36:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By SWS:
Will GM be around long enough to produce it?


Yep...................but I don't know who will own GM then.

5sub
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:38:21 AM EST
Bitchin. I have had several. I could see me in one for sure......and then in big ass trouble.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:38:30 AM EST
Not entirely sure how accurate that really is. The LT designation just doesn't fit. Leading members of the Camaro development and marketing team (Scott Settlemire in particular) have said publically that "Camaro and Z-28 are not dead" in response to some rumors it had been killed. Z-28 is just too recognizable a monicker to kill...

The weight is probably a bit low as well. Again people on the development team have mentioned a lot closer to 4k lbs when all the required safety equipment is included.

The engine specifications are proabably pretty close though...
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:38:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
Yeah, down with the affordable fun cars.....Ferraris, Lambos, and Porsche's that's it.


Hand stitched leather, aaaaaaw yeah baby. Tell me more about the steering feed back. Ya, that's it. What's that? The panel gap is tight? Almost there baby! Oh yeah! Oh yeah! The slalom speed is...oh my gawd...


AWESOME!!! OH, YEAH!!! AAAAAAH! OH SHIT! OH FUCK ME. SLAP THAT ASS!! HARDER! SAY BREMBO! SAY BREMBO! AAAAAAHHHHH! YES! YES! YES!


Shit, now the pages of Car & Driver are stuck together.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:38:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By Number21:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By guns762:
The interior is ugly. I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring. Typical GM. They need to hire some new designers.


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.



I don't mind simple, but putting dash gauges down where the ashtray used to be is a bit silly.


68-69 gauges:
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:40:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


That's true, we'll see...a live axle certainly hasn't hurt GT500 sales to say the least.


And the GT500 handles just fine, a point that's often lost on many.

Not all of us jerk off to the thought of running laps around the 'ring, or doing 3x the speed limit on public mountain roads with blind corners, or waiting with bated breath for a track day to open up 3 hours from here, or...


Look how many '99,'01 and '03/04 Cobras got swapped over to a 8.8.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:42:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2008 10:43:36 AM EST by MTUSA]
LOVE IT!!
Plan on spending $31K+ for the LS2 model.
Curb weight will be around 3600lbs so she will be a fatty...
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:43:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By guns762:
The interior is ugly. I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring. Typical GM. They need to hire some new designers.


I keep applying but nothing yet

I think they screwed up by not just keeping the line running on the old Camaro. Camaro/Firebird guys are usually hardcore GM guys, they pushed them into imports by dropping it. They should have looked at how to make it cheaper, most of the guys that want one aren't rich or they're ripping the interior out to race it anyway.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:44:27 AM EST
I need
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:46:49 AM EST
I think the bowtie in the front looks a little off.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:47:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Defcon:

Originally Posted By Tango7:
From the Dead Milkmen album Big Lizard In My Backyard


Exactly what I thought when I saw this...



I still have about 4 Dead Milkmen Albums. I thought I was their only fan.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:48:23 AM EST
Junior says it is a Fail .... no 4X4





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He's a pickup man
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:49:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By Beltfed:
The independent rear suspension is nice.

I like the interior, better than the Challenger anyway.


Hopefully the rear holds up when people throw 10" slicks on the back and drag it.

Mustang enthusiasts begged Ford for a live axle on the Mustang, and for once they listened.


It will be the same rear diff as the corvette and the xlrv/ctsv so it should hold decently. I've seen/worked on some pretty quick vette's with the stock diff and they have held up. But as any rear diff, it can always break.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:50:24 AM EST
I don't like it. I've always been a fan of the way the Mustang looks and runs even though I hate ford cars in general.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 10:50:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By Number21:

Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By guns762:
The interior is ugly. I'm a big fan of the "Camaro", but the interior looks dated, boring, and uninspiring. Typical GM. They need to hire some new designers.


It's a muscle car. It's supposed to have a simple interior. Put the money in the motor. I like it.



I don't mind simple, but putting dash gauges down where the ashtray used to be is a bit silly.


68-69 gauges:
www.classiccarrestorationparts.com/catalog/3952635_R.jpg


I guess that could explain the placement, but it still not a good location to put them. I ran out of gas in my Camero twice and that gauge was on the dash.
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