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Posted: 3/26/2009 5:54:15 PM EDT
Who's counting down the hours to the televised practice tonight on speed!?

Been such a long wait!!! I can't wait to see how the new cars and regulations affect F1(no matter how much I hate the new rules).



I'm also pulling for Brawn GP. It would sure be something to see a new team win their maiden GP.

Link Posted: 3/26/2009 5:56:36 PM EDT
I had the chance to go down and see it, but I had no time

Im going to be watching it though
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 2:46:31 AM EDT
I'll be going for a bit tomorrow.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 2:52:07 AM EDT
SLICKS!!!!!!
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 4:00:25 AM EDT
This ought to be an awesome season!!!

Fuck Hamilton! Cocky prick.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 4:10:00 AM EDT
Friday Practice Times.

Australian Grand Prix free practice session two

1. ROSBERG Williams 1m26.053s
2. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m26.157s
3. TRULLI Toyota 1m26.350s
4. WEBBER Red Bull 1m26.370s
5. BUTTON Brawn 1m26.374s
6. GLOCK Toyota 1m26.443s
7. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m26.560s
8. VETTEL Red Bull 1m26.740s
9. SUTIL Force India 1m27.040s
10. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.064s
11. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m27.204s
12. ALONSO Renault 1m27.232s
13. FISICHELLA Force India 1m27.282s
14. HEIDFELD BMW 1m27.317s
15. KUBICA BMW 1m27.398s
16. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m27.479s
17. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m27.802s
18. HAMILTON McLaren 1m27.813s
19. PIQUET Renault 1m27.828s
20. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m28.076s

Australian Grand Prix free practice session one

1. ROSBERG Williams 1m26.687s
2. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m26.736s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m26.750s
4. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m27.226s
5. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m27.453s
6. BUTTON Brawn 1m27.467s
7. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.642s
8. GLOCK Toyota 1m27.710s
9. SUTIL Force India 1m27.993s
10. ALONSO Renault 1m28.123s
11. HEIDFELD BMW 1m28.137s
12. TRULLI Toyota 1m28.142s
13. KUBICA BMW 1m28.511s
14. FISICHELLA Force India 1m28.603s
15. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m28.785s
16. HAMILTON McLaren 1m29.042s
17. WEBBER Red Bull 1m29.081s
18. PIQUET Renault 1m29.461s
19. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m29.499s
20. VETTEL Red Bull 1m32.784s

McLaren is way off the pace.


Link Posted: 3/27/2009 4:12:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Friday Practice Times.

Australian Grand Prix free practice session two

1. ROSBERG Williams 1m26.053s
2. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m26.157s
3. TRULLI Toyota 1m26.350s
4. WEBBER Red Bull 1m26.370s
5. BUTTON Brawn 1m26.374s
6. GLOCK Toyota 1m26.443s
7. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m26.560s
8. VETTEL Red Bull 1m26.740s
9. SUTIL Force India 1m27.040s
10. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.064s
11. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m27.204s
12. ALONSO Renault 1m27.232s
13. FISICHELLA Force India 1m27.282s
14. HEIDFELD BMW 1m27.317s
15. KUBICA BMW 1m27.398s
16. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m27.479s
17. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m27.802s
18. HAMILTON McLaren 1m27.813s
19. PIQUET Renault 1m27.828s
20. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m28.076s

Australian Grand Prix free practice session one

1. ROSBERG Williams 1m26.687s
2. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m26.736s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m26.750s
4. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m27.226s
5. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m27.453s
6. BUTTON Brawn 1m27.467s
7. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.642s
8. GLOCK Toyota 1m27.710s
9. SUTIL Force India 1m27.993s
10. ALONSO Renault 1m28.123s
11. HEIDFELD BMW 1m28.137s
12. TRULLI Toyota 1m28.142s
13. KUBICA BMW 1m28.511s
14. FISICHELLA Force India 1m28.603s
15. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m28.785s
16. HAMILTON McLaren 1m29.042s
17. WEBBER Red Bull 1m29.081s
18. PIQUET Renault 1m29.461s
19. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m29.499s
20. VETTEL Red Bull 1m32.784s

McLaren is way off the pace.




Link Posted: 3/27/2009 4:13:10 AM EDT
Great to see them get rid of the "summer treads".
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 4:14:30 AM EDT
Any Americans in GP yet ?

I finally have the Speed Channel so I will be watching just about every race.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 4:28:25 AM EDT
I think the big teams are sandbagging until Quali to emphasize the diffuser protest. Should make for an exciting weekend though.
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 5:00:14 AM EDT

I thought this was a pretty good wrap up of some of the rule changes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTkVKPdyWs0


Can anyone explain how this KERS system converts the electric power stored by the batteries into more horsepower?
Link Posted: 3/27/2009 5:17:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By James23:

I thought this was a pretty good wrap up of some of the rule changes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTkVKPdyWs0


Can anyone explain how this KERS system converts the electric power stored by the batteries into more horsepower?


I would assume that the generator is also used as an electric motor.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:13:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TrijiCog:
Any Americans in GP yet ?

I finally have the Speed Channel so I will be watching just about every race.


Yes. Well... they aren't in YET but in 2010 there is going to be a team named USGPE that will have two American drivers...

And what the hell!? BrawnGP takes poll and 2nd position? Hamilton doesn't even bother coming out for Q2(). Talk about getting turned on your head....
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:51:25 AM EDT
I'll be watching! For those watching Americans in world motorsports, Ben Spies is going to dominate World Super Bike!
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:57:12 AM EDT
I liked Kimi even before Ferrari, I know who I am gonna root for now.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:45:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 5:49:45 AM EDT by paris-dakar]
Report on Qualifying.

Provisional Australian GP grid

1. BUTTON Brawn
2. BARRICHELLO Brawn
3. VETTEL Red Bull
4. KUBICA BMW
5. ROSBERG Williams
6. GLOCK Toyota
7. MASSA Ferrari
8. TRULLI Toyota
9. RAIKKONEN Ferrari
10. WEBBER Red Bull
11. HEIDFELD BMW
12. ALONSO Renault
13. NAKAJIMA Williams
14. KOVALAINEN McLaren
15. HAMILTON McLaren
16. BUEMI Toro Rosso
17. PIQUET Renault
18. FISICHELLA Force India
19. SUTIL Force India
20. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso

The Brawns look to walk it tomorrow. I wonder if BMW (Kubica) and Red Bull are simply running really light. Sucks that Renault is so slow, but McLaren is back with the TRs, Force India and Piquet, so that's good news.

ETA: Toyota Thrown Out for Excessive Wing Flex.

The two Toyotas have been disqualified from the Melbourne qualifying results due to technical infringements.

The race stewards declared that the wings on Timo Glock and Jarno Trulli's cars had flexed excessively.

Wings have to be kept at a certain level of rigidity because a car's downforce at different parts of the circuit can be increased if they flex.

"The Stewards have received a report from the Technical Delegate that the upper rear wing elements of cars No. 9 and 10 are showing extreme flexibility in contravention of Article 3.15 of the 2009 Formula One Technical Regulations," said a stewards' statement.

"The Stewards have heard the explanation from a representative of Panasonic Toyota Racing and have examined the cars in question.

"The Stewards concur with the opinion of the Technical Delegate and find the cars contravene the requirements of Article 3.15 of the 2009 Formula One Technical Regulations.

"It is the Stewards decision that cars number 9 and 10 be excluded from the Qualifying Session Official Classification."

The decision means that Glock and Trulli fall from sixth and eighth places to the rear of the grid.


That's a Ross Brawn trick - the Ferrari a few years ago had a 'lay-back' Rear Wing.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:50:55 AM EDT
I'm going to root for the Glock!!
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:57:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By madmathew:
I'm going to root for the Glock!!


After he laid down for Hamilton on the last corner at Brazil last year, no chance.

Timo Glock is forever on my Shit List.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:33:59 AM EDT
Fuel Loads Revealed.

I don't like this at all. Part of the fun was seeing the strategy unfold during the race.

But Brawn is in a class by themselves. Heavier AND faster. And with Toyota DQd, they're the top Trick Diffuser Team by far.

The FIA has revealed the fuel loads with which all 20 cars will start the Australian Grand Prix. James Allen analyses the data here.

The fuel weights have been published by the FIA for the first time, under the new rules for this season.

There are some very interesting things here.

For a start the Brawn cars are, as we expected, massively quick, given that Jenson Button’s car has 22 laps worth of fuel in it (59 kilos).

Rubens Barrichello will go one lap longer, to 23. This is a long first stint for a two-stop strategy.

Knowing this we can say that Jenson did a stunning job today in the final part of qualifying as the smaller amount of fuel he’s carrying will have given him less than a tenth of a second of lap time compared to Rubens and yet he is three-tenths faster.

Rubens liked the car more on low fuel in the early part of qualifying, Jenson liked it more in heavy fuel mode. He will be on his own tomorrow in the race.

Sebastian Vettel, who qualified third, will go to lap 20, the same as Nico Rosberg.

This means that the Red Bull is a couple of tenths faster than the Williams.

Meanwhile the Ferraris are in trouble: Felipe Massa has only 18 laps of fuel in his car and yet he was 0.8s off Button, who has 0.3s of a weight disadvantage.

That puts the Ferrari more than a second slower in qualifying trim today.

Kimi Raikkonen has a similar amount as his team-mate and was a tenth slower.

Robert Kubica’s lap looks less stellar when you realise that he is running light – he will be stopping on lap 17.

Button should control the race; reliability is his only competitor tomorrow.

Barrichello has more than enough speed to stay ahead of Vettel and Rosberg who will be fighting for a podium.

Massa moves forward to sixth on the grid after Timo Glock’s exclusion and he has a shot at a podium from there to get his championship campaign off to a strong start.

The Ferrari should prove a faster race car than it was a qualifier here.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:36:31 AM EDT
I think it is absolutely fantastic that Brawn, Red Bull and Williams are toward the front and Ferrari are mid-pack. If this keeps up, it will be a very exciting season. My biggest complaint about F1 has been the seeming dominance of Ferrari over the years. I like seeing a mix at the front and not watching fucking Schumaker win every week.

Oh, and I still like to wear my Lucky Strike BAR shirt every now and then. Oh, the good old days of cigarrette advertising........
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:41:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 6:42:07 AM EDT by paris-dakar]
Originally Posted By JWC:
I think it is absolutely fantastic that Brawn, Red Bull and Williams are toward the front and Ferrari are mid-pack. If this keeps up, it will be a very exciting season. My biggest complaint about F1 has been the seeming dominance of Ferrari over the years. I like seeing a mix at the front and not watching fucking Schumaker win every week.

Oh, and I still like to wear my Lucky Strike BAR shirt every now and then. Oh, the good old days of cigarrette advertising........


Alot of irony there.

One thing Brawn's dominance does is put Schumacher's reputation in a new light. It really seems like Ross Brawn was the more important part of the Brawn/Schumacher partnership.

If either Button or Barrichello win the WDC this year, it will knock MS down a few pegs.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:43:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 6:45:08 AM EDT by PAEBR332]

Originally Posted By JWC:
I think it is absolutely fantastic that Brawn, Red Bull and Williams are toward the front and Ferrari are mid-pack. If this keeps up, it will be a very exciting season. My biggest complaint about F1 has been the seeming dominance of Ferrari over the years. I like seeing a mix at the front and not watching fucking Schumaker win every week.

Oh, and I still like to wear my Lucky Strike BAR shirt every now and then. Oh, the good old days of cigarrette advertising........

Schumaker also won (back-to-back Driver's Championships) when he raced for Benetton. Maybe it was more than just Ferrari's money that made Schumaker such a dominating driver?

Of course, Schumaker won at both Benetton and Ferrari with Ross Brawn leading the teams. Now Brawn has his very own team and it looks like they could be in for a fine season.

ETA: paris-dakar beat me to that point.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:27:23 AM EDT
Good report here.

Update: Lewis Hamilton will start the race in 18th after a gearbox change triggered a grid-slot demotion of five places. The McLaren has since been 'promoted' from 20th to 18th following the exclusion of both Toyotas from qualifying due to a technical infringement.


Strange thing this report pointed out, BMW is running Kubica without KERS and Heidfeld with KERS. Kubica was MUCH faster which proves that either 1) Kubica is a much better driver (very possible) or 2) The negative effect of KERS on the balance of the car isn't worth the HP boost on the main straight (who knows?).

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:43:19 AM EDT
I couldn't be happier for Barrichello, Button and the rest of the Brawn team. They've hung in there through some tough times.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:00:37 AM EDT
It's going to be a great season.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:44:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By madmathew:
I'm going to root for the Glock!!


After he laid down for Hamilton on the last corner at Brazil last year, no chance.

Timo Glock is forever on my Shit List.



Oh come on, you really think he laid down on that? I'm not saying it's IMPOSSIBLE but if it's true he's damn good at hiding it. If you watch his onboard camera from the last lap, he was sliding all over the place on those dry tires. err,, oops, we're talking about a European dominated sport... I mean "tyres."
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:47:43 PM EDT
Does anyone know if anybody's going to be streaming the race? I'll have internet access tonight, but not to a TV that gets SPEED
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:50:46 PM EDT
Did they make the rear wings smaller for this season? Seems like they were a lot wider last year.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 2:53:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:
Did they make the rear wings smaller for this season? Seems like they were a lot wider last year.


They did and they were. This year was major redesign across the board.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:08:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Nick29:
Does anyone know if anybody's going to be streaming the race? I'll have internet access tonight, but not to a TV that gets SPEED


There's some website called Eurosport or some shit like that that might be. I'm on 56k right now so i'm not gonna google around for it but you should be able to find it. They did stream the 24hrs of Le Mans for free but you might have to pay for F1 if they do stream it. Who knows what language the commentary is going to be either. For the 24hrs of Le Mans they streamed from various broadcasts so the language would change every few hours.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:12:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Towely:
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By madmathew:
I'm going to root for the Glock!!


After he laid down for Hamilton on the last corner at Brazil last year, no chance.

Timo Glock is forever on my Shit List.



Oh come on, you really think he laid down on that? I'm not saying it's IMPOSSIBLE but if it's true he's damn good at hiding it. If you watch his onboard camera from the last lap, he was sliding all over the place on those dry tires. err,, oops, we're talking about a European dominated sport... I mean "tyres."



I wish Glock would have driven like Hamilton drives and thrown the car at him.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:18:14 PM EDT
Good Summary.

They had dominated testing ever since their car first turned a wheel in anger, but it was not until the first qualifying session of the year that Brawn could truly be sure of their real position. Now, however, they can be, as Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello wrapped up the front row of the grid for the first time for a new team since March performed the feat in South Africa back in 1970.

There was further controversy after qualifying when the Toyotas were stripped of their positions for having rear wings deemed to be to flexible, while Williams withdrew a protest over the design of the leading edge of the sidepods on the Ferraris and Red Bulls after deciding it wasn’t in the interests of the sport.

Brawn
Jenson Button, 1m 25.981s, P3/1m 26.202s, P1
Rubens Barrichello, 1m 26.348s, P6/1m 26.505s, P2
Barrichello set the pace in the first two qualifying sessions, but as he found his BGP001 starting to understeer with its race fuel load, so Button found his handling with the edge and poise it had lacked on low fuel. The result was the Englishman’s fourth pole, but Barrichello was also fast enough to take the other front row slot. It was the perfect start for Ross Brawn’s squad.

Red Bull
Sebastian Vettel, 1m 27.009s, P13/1m 26.830s, P3
Mark Webber, 1m 26.355s, P7/1m 27.246s, P10, will start P8
Vettel had a problem with a wheel nut which hampered his morning running, but in qualifying he banged in a great lap which showed the true promise of Adrian Newey’s ‘conventional’ car. Webber was not happy with his final lap of Q3, as he found his RB5 unsettled in the bumps of Turn Nine.

BMW Sauber
Robert Kubica, 1m 26.514s, P9/1m 26.914s, P4
Nick Heidfeld, 1m 26.555s, P10/1m 25.504s, P11, will start P9
After struggling for grip on Friday the Swiss-German team made good progress and Kubica was able to put some strong laps together, but even he admitted that fourth was better than he expected. Yet he lost grip on his second Q3 run after Rosberg threw dirt on to the track in Turn 14, otherwise he thought third was possible. Heidfeld, meanwhile, was happy enough until he encountered too much oversteer in the final corner and lost his chance of making it through to Q3. He is hoping KERS (which Kubica does not have) will give him an advantage in the race.

Williams
Nico Rosberg, 1m 25.808s, P1/1m 26.973s, P5
Kazuki Nakajima, 1m 26.078s, P5/1m 25.607s, P13, will start P11
It was tempting to feel disappointed for Williams to start only fifth courtesy of Rosberg after all his practice speed. He said his FW31 was still nice to drive, and was quite happy, suggesting that the team believe some of their rivals to be running lighter on fuel (though it turns out those ahead largely are not). Nakajima looked okay in Q1 and Q2, but made a crucial error that left him stranded in Q2. Again.

Toyota
Timo Glock, 1m 26.410s, P8/1m 26.975s, P6, will start P19
Jarno Trulli, 1m 25.811s, P2/1m 27.127s, P8, will start P20
Toyota had expected better than sixth and eighth on the grid, but were still fine-tuning the balance of their TF109s right through to Q3. Glock was nevertheless quite happy, while Trulli found qualifying harder than he had anticipated and was ultimately disappointed. His main problem was generating sufficient heat in his Bridgestones when it really mattered.

The team was struck a serious blow later in the evening, when the stewards deemed that their rear wings were too flexible and moved both TF109s to the back of the grid. Toyota opted not to appeal.

Ferrari
Felipe Massa, 1m 26.020s, P4/1m 27.033s, P7, will start P6
Kimi Raikkonen, 1m 28.801s, P20/1m 27.163s, P9, will start P7
Massa said he could not feel satisfied with seventh place, having aspired to fifth, but that it was the best he could wring from his F60. Raikkonen lost time with a hydraulic problem in the final practice session, which reduced his running time. Both drivers think they are in good shape for the race, and hope that their KERS systems could confer a significant advantage at the start.

Renault
Fernando Alonso, 1m 27.357s, P17/1m 25.605s, P12, will start P10
Nelson Piquet Jnr, 1m 27.739s, P19/1m 26.598s, P17, will start P14
Almost tongue-in-cheek, Alonso allowed that the plan to fight for the podium might not happen on race day, but explained that a mistake in the penultimate corner may have cost him the chance of fifth or sixth place overall after he failed to make it through Q2. Piquet simply struggled.

McLaren
Heikki Kovalainen, 1m 26.652s, P11/1m 25.726s, P14. will start P12
Lewis Hamilton, 1m 26.714s, P12/no time, P15, will start P18
As they had expected, McLaren struggled in Melbourne. Kovalainen said his MP4-24 was well balanced, but it still lacked grip. Hamilton had the same problem, and another. Fourth gear broke on his second flying lap of Q1, and though he made it through to Q2 he did not run as the team changed the gearbox. That, of course, incurred a penalty, so he was due to start from 20th place until the exclusion of the Toyota moved him back up two spots.

Toro Rosso
Sebastien Buemi, 1m 27.192s, P16/1m 26.503s, P16, will start P13
Sebastien Bourdais, 1m 27.152s, P15/1m 26.964s, P20, will start P17
Buemi was quite happy with the job he did first time out in a full-blown qualifying session, while Bourdais admitted to a mistake on his second run in Q1 and then to failing to get his tyres up to full temperature during his run three out lap.

Force India
Giancarlo Fisichella, 1m 27.492s, P18/1m 26.677s, P18, will start P15
Adrian Sutil, 1m 27.062s, P14/1m 26,742s, P19, will start P16
Ultimately, Force India’s position was established in qualifying after the fast runs Sutil appeared to have done in practice. Fisichella still had some brake locking problems, while Sutil rued lack of downforce as the VJM02’s main shortcoming.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:18:58 PM EDT
I'd love to see Button and Brawn win this!!!!!

Get in there Jenson!!!!
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:21:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Armed_Philosopher:
I'd love to see Button and Brawn win this!!!!!

Get in there Jenson!!!!


I'd have liked that even more if I had put money on JB when he was like 200:1 to win the WDC. Now he's the favorite.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:28:02 PM EDT
T - 6 hours!

I'm looking forward to it!

Glad to see a few ARFCOMMER's also enjoy cars that can turn left AND right.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:50:20 PM EDT
Who wants to bet that at least one of those kinetic energy storage doohickies shits the bed during the race?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 3:54:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:
Who wants to bet that at least one of those kinetic energy storage doohickies shits the bed during the race?


I haven't really paid attention to the new kinetic energy devices other than preseason speculation that included pit crew using rubber gloves, etc.

What are the scenarios for failure? A 200mph Ferrari shooting lightning bolts?????
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 4:30:13 PM EDT
I find it curiously hilarious that after two years of McLaren winning by using the stolen Ferrari notebook, this year they had to do things on their own and they are sitting at the back of the grid.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:29:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
I find it curiously hilarious that after two years of McLaren winning by using the stolen Ferrari notebook, this year they had to do things on their own and they are sitting at the back of the grid.



I'm enjoying that immensely myself.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:33:15 PM EDT
What powerplant is in the Brawn?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:33:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
What powerplant is in the Brawn?


Mercedes
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:46:38 PM EDT
I spent about 5 hours yesterday at the track. My first time at a GP race. Race wasn't that crowded. The cars were awesome, I didn't know that they could brake so fast and turn so hard at corners. I spent some time in the V8 supercar paddock. They are interesting machines. The OZ defense force was at the race offering helicopter rides in a blackhawk. Several car clubs had cars parked around the place. They were racing several other classes of cars during the day. They had a really cool plastic floating bridge over the pond that is in the middle of the park. Neat engineering. I got a nice sunburn and had some corn on the cob and a bratwurst. It was a good day.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:53:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dragracer_Rob:
I spent about 5 hours yesterday at the track. My first time at a GP race. Race wasn't that crowded. The cars were awesome, I didn't know that they could brake so fast and turn so hard at corners. I spent some time in the V8 supercar paddock. They are interesting machines. The OZ defense force was at the race offering helicopter rides in a blackhawk. Several car clubs had cars parked around the place. They were racing several other classes of cars during the day. They had a really cool plastic floating bridge over the pond that is in the middle of the park. Neat engineering. I got a nice sunburn and had some corn on the cob and a bratwurst. It was a good day.


You lucky bastard! I went to Indy for the USGP in '03 and '04 and there's really nothing like it. We took my nephew, who was only two, to qualifying in '04... he was starting to cry outside the track because he didn't know what that horrifying sound was! He loved it once we got inside and he saw the cars, and he got a kick out of the air horns too.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:08:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 6:11:08 PM EDT by James23]
Originally Posted By Dragracer_Rob:
I spent about 5 hours yesterday at the track. My first time at a GP race. Race wasn't that crowded. The cars were awesome, I didn't know that they could brake so fast and turn so hard at corners. I spent some time in the V8 supercar paddock. They are interesting machines. The OZ defense force was at the race offering helicopter rides in a blackhawk. Several car clubs had cars parked around the place. They were racing several other classes of cars during the day. They had a really cool plastic floating bridge over the pond that is in the middle of the park. Neat engineering. I got a nice sunburn and had some corn on the cob and a bratwurst. It was a good day.



This is the thing that you just can't really imagine until you see it first hand (kind of like a top fueler leaving the line ....... impossible to imagine the acceleration until you see it).

My first experience with F1 cars was the chicane before the front stretch in Montreal.

Sat with my nose against the fence during qualifying and watched Ayrton Senna and Gerhard Berger throw a car through there so violently that it was shocking, lap after lap, that they made it through the corner at all, let alone didn't wad it up into the fence.
You could see them in the cockpit, sawing at the wheel while the car bounded over the curbing .......... it was just awsome.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:46:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fike:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
What powerplant is in the Brawn?


Mercedes


Built by ILMORE?

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:52:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 6:55:22 PM EDT by paris-dakar]
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By fike:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
What powerplant is in the Brawn?


Mercedes


Built by ILMORE?



If I'm not mistaken, Daimler Benz bought out Ilmor and operate it as part of their Motorsports division.

ETA: Yep.

Ilmor, founded by Mario Illien and Paul Morgan in 1984, is a British independent high-performance autosport engineering company. With manufacturing based in Brixworth, Northamptonshire, and maintenance offices in Plymouth, Michigan, the company supplies engines and consultancy to the IndyCar Series, Formula One, and MotoGP.

After originally developing IndyCar engines, the company built a partnership with Mercedes-Benz to power F1 cars for both the Sauber and McLaren teams. After the death of Paul Morgan in a vintage aeroplane crash in 2001, Mercedes increased its stake until it owned the entire company, and renamed it Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines Ltd.


Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:01:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By fike:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
What powerplant is in the Brawn?


Mercedes


Built by ILMORE?



If I'm not mistaken, Daimler Benz bought out Ilmor and operate it as part of their Motorsports division.

ETA: Yep.

Ilmor, founded by Mario Illien and Paul Morgan in 1984, is a British independent high-performance autosport engineering company. With manufacturing based in Brixworth, Northamptonshire, and maintenance offices in Plymouth, Michigan, the company supplies engines and consultancy to the IndyCar Series, Formula One, and MotoGP.

After originally developing IndyCar engines, the company built a partnership with Mercedes-Benz to power F1 cars for both the Sauber and McLaren teams. After the death of Paul Morgan in a vintage aeroplane crash in 2001, Mercedes increased its stake until it owned the entire company, and renamed it Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines Ltd.




Good info.

I remember when Ilmor built the so-called "Chevy" engines for IRL.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:09:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By fike:
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
What powerplant is in the Brawn?


Mercedes


Built by ILMORE?



If I'm not mistaken, Daimler Benz bought out Ilmor and operate it as part of their Motorsports division.

ETA: Yep.

Ilmor, founded by Mario Illien and Paul Morgan in 1984, is a British independent high-performance autosport engineering company. With manufacturing based in Brixworth, Northamptonshire, and maintenance offices in Plymouth, Michigan, the company supplies engines and consultancy to the IndyCar Series, Formula One, and MotoGP.

After originally developing IndyCar engines, the company built a partnership with Mercedes-Benz to power F1 cars for both the Sauber and McLaren teams. After the death of Paul Morgan in a vintage aeroplane crash in 2001, Mercedes increased its stake until it owned the entire company, and renamed it Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines Ltd.




Good info.

I remember when Ilmor built the so-called "Chevy" engines for IRL.


They also did the one-off that Penske ran as a Mercedes at the Indy 500 in the early 90s. Back when he ran Al Unser Jr. and Emerson Fittipaldi.

Mercedes went on a big kick on bringing all that Motorsports stuff in house. They even own shares in McLaren Group.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:13:33 PM EDT
Brawn GP
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:16:28 PM EDT
A friend said tvunetworks.com will have the race live, so I signed up for that and downloaded the player. And now we play the waiting game...
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 10:01:15 PM EDT
They played the national anthem and the Quantas 747 flew over. And they're OFF. Some of the cars on the super soft tires.
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