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Posted: 5/23/2017 6:15:44 PM EST
Thinking about buying one. Done want anything too big as it will be a daily driver. Might do a little off roading around my cabin and property but nothing worth a huge lift and tires etc.

Anyone had any problems with em? Looking at a manual trans, but any problems with auto ?


Tell me GD, how bad am I fucking up here?
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:18:11 PM EST
I recently bought a 06 Wrangler. Love it. So much more fun than driving my F150.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:22:31 PM EST
14' manual transmission owner checking in, no issues
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:23:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bigshot64:
Thinking about buying one. Done want anything too big as it will be a daily driver. Might do a little off roading around my cabin and property but nothing worth a huge lift and tires etc.

Anyone had any problems with em? Looking at a manual trans, but any problems with auto ?

Tell me GD, how bad am I fucking up here?
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Looked at them too. In 2012 they upgraded engine and auto trans. 2012 had problems with the engine.

Prepare to be disappointed with 08 to 11, do not get auto.

Look at the axle to make sure you get decent gearing. Standard is like 3.08 i think. You dont want that with the 08 to 11 engine.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:24:51 PM EST
Not sure of the rust years, but the frames were horrible and were often sprayed with undercoating to hide the rot.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:26:36 PM EST
The Pentastar engine (2012+) is more powerful (285hp vs. 202 of the older 3.8). Get one! Tons of fun!
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:29:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2017 6:30:44 PM EST by somaliskinnypirate]
2008 Wrangler Sahara. 104,000 miles..Finally replaced the plugs and serpentine belt on Saturday....before that it was Mobile 1 synthetic and breaks done once, air filter every so often... at 100,000 had Firestone replace all fluids except break and motor oil.

It has 0 issues. Most trouble free vehicle we've owned. I mean, the style is old but all the bugs are worked out. I do complain  about the lack of power in that v6 and the quart of oil it drinks every 1500 miles...first world problems...the ride is uncomfortable compared to my RAM 1500...but, "that's a Jeep thing"

Edit: auto trans
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:30:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2017 6:33:40 PM EST by intheburbs]
Bought a used '10 JKU last year - automatic, Sahara, 70k miles.

Has thrown the Check Engine light once - EGR valve, replaced by dealer at no charge (was a few days after purchase).

Other than that, it's been great. Has the 3.73 axles, and the engine does struggle at highway speeds (75 mph) in OD if I have the roof and doors off. With the hard top on, no gear hunting at highway speeds.

Wife has a 2016 JKU Sahara we bought new back in 2015. Has 12K on the odo, and has been flawless. The 3.6 is quite an upgrade; almost 100 more hp.

I don't mind the lower power on the 2010; my two teenage boys mostly drive it, and it's harder for them to get into trouble or do something stupid. Even with the 3.23 axles, the '16 is pretty damn peppy for a Wrangler.

Both have the automatic. And I prefer it; I like remote start and you can't have that if you have the manual.

Some JKU porn...


Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:32:34 PM EST
2015 hard rock jku. Flawless zero issues
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:33:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tweek:
The Pentastar engine (2012+) is more powerful (285hp vs. 202 of the older 3.8). Get one! Tons of fun!
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This is true.

07 owner here. I couldn't afford a 12+ JK, so I got the 3.8. I have the stock 3.21 gears, with the 6 speed manual. I enjoy rowing the gears, but make no mistake, the transmission feels...agricultural. With the 32 inch tires that came on it when I bought this Jeep used, 6th gear is for flat ground only. Any hill pretty much requires a downshift. I intend to re-gear eventually, so that's a temporary matter. 

I was warned about the 3.8 and it's love for oil, but mine so far has not shown that to be the case. Maybe I got lucky, maybe I just haven't seen it yet. 

Feel free to ask me anything and I'll try to answer. 
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:35:24 PM EST
My assistants 08 4 door just got a new auto transmission at 115k
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:40:33 PM EST
17 Rubicon manual. I love it. It is a lot like driving a 70's pickup.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:41:57 PM EST
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Looked at them too. In 2012 they upgraded engine and auto trans. 2012 had problems with the engine.

Prepare to be disappointed with 08 to 11, do not get auto.
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The "engine problems" were casting/metallurgy problems with the heads. Jeep replaced them all @ NC.

I agree with the 2012 & later models. The 3.6L with 290hp hauls ass.

I have a 2012 Wrangler 2DR, love it. This is my fourth Wrangler/CJ, so I must like them.

OP, be SURE to get a hardtop if you buy one. You don't want your shit stolen as a soft top has NO security at all.

My .o2
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:46:38 PM EST
This is good to read. Do any of the above posters wheel at all or are most miles on the road? I want a JK bad but I keep getting scared off.

I belong to a local FB offroad club. Being in Toledo it's freaking huge and a LOT of Jeep employees. I can't believe all the issues they have with them. Blown engines, burning oil, low mile deathwobble, electrical issues and one guy has an 08 with part of the frame eaten by rust. 

I think I've decided to overpay for a TJ instead since I understand them better after owning 3 XJs. 

By the way, wheeling here is pretty mild. The terrain is like Nebraska
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:49:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2017 6:50:04 PM EST by 78JeepCJ]
2014 Wrangler Unlimited.
Auto trans, Sahara package with soft top
almost 90K miles.
Water neck replaced under warranty @ 42K
Oil cooler replaced under warranty @ 60K


When inspecting Jeep, verify the oil cooler assembly was replaced under warranty if it was from the problem years (3.7L 2012 to 2014)
If it wasn't changed, there may be oil on top of engine.
Look at the coolant water neck in front of the engine for leaks.
Sahara package gets upgraded axles.
Get the hardtop.

Now go read the other dozen or so Jeep threads in GD, and the automotive section of the forum.


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Link Posted: 5/23/2017 6:57:33 PM EST
13 JK auto, I haven't had any problems for 93K miles, but it is mostly stock (slightly larger tires). I say it's a Camry with four wheel drive , I basically use it as a commuter although I have driven it on some mild trails. I like it for my use, my prior commuter was a K3500 crew cab though.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:08:11 PM EST
2008 rubi, 2 door, on the second set of BFG KM's, 137,000 miles. was my DD first 5 years, other than the emergency brake being a pain in the ass maybe every 2 years, FCA did replace the front transmission seal? under lifetime powertrain warranty
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:10:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2017 7:13:27 PM EST by seek2]
I'll add the chorus that the 2012+ with the 3.6 is way better. I test drove new 2011s they had on the lot when I got my 2012,
no comparison whatsoever, they offered a ton of discounts on the 2011 and it wasn't enough to make me switch.
I did get burned by the bad engine (it's a cylinder head issue) with the 2012 model year but as far as I know it's
a non-issue in later models. Jeep did cover everything on the engine, just took them a couple days to get it done.

Usual "it's a jeep thing" excuse for the ride, handling, etc. I've owned CJ, YJ, TJ, ZJ, WK2 and currently own an XJ and JKU,
and the JK/U is clearly the last/only "real jeep DNA" offering in the product line (solid axels, chassis on frame, etc.)
I've not been too impressed with the other jeep offerings as of late (maybe except the Renegade, got one for the daughter
and it grew on me, but not on her, and it had a huge number of electrical issues off the lot.)

If something happened to my JKU I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. I think they got a lot right with it and hit the
sweet spot between stock 4WD capability and usable daily driver. Probably explains why they sell so many.

ETA: +1 on get the hard top. If you don't, you will due to security and noise. (I date jeep-friendly women and long trips at highway speeds
with a soft top will turn even the country girls into irritated dates.)
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:41:42 PM EST
Meh, I got the soft-top after trying both. I didn't find the soft-top to be much louder and the heater is a freaking blast-furnace. Finally it seems that everyone with a hard-top talks about taking the top off, and never do it. I put the top up and down a lot.

Oh I haven't really been 4-wheeling, but I have done some fairly good mudding, and I drive it off road a lot.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:42:34 PM EST
It's a jeep.  You're gonna have problems.   That comes with the territory.   But I love mine. 
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:47:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bigshot64:
Thinking about buying one. Done want anything too big as it will be a daily driver. Might do a little off roading around my cabin and property but nothing worth a huge lift and tires etc.

Anyone had any problems with em? Looking at a manual trans, but any problems with auto ?
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I had a 2010 JK Sport, 2014 JK Sport and currently have a 2016 JKU.

No issues with any of them and all were off road almost weekly, year round.

I don't drive crazy off road, but do tackle some difficult stuff every so often and I took the 2010 to Moab.

The Rubi is going next year.

It is set up for long range back country travel and currently has 12k in mods, and still evolving.

Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:51:31 PM EST
Had a 2011 six speed. It was severely underpowered and a oil burned. Wife had a 2015 auto. At 40,000 miles, it had to have an intake and exhaust cam and 12 lifters. We got it back oh Friday and traded it Saturday.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:55:01 PM EST
08 jku and I wheel it very hard! New engine at 110k miles. I can't really complain because Im not using it as a grocery getter.... I bought it in 2010. Had I known they were coming out with the 3.6 I would have waited.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 7:58:19 PM EST
No big problems with mine
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 8:28:05 PM EST
Jeep Wrangler JKU owner here. My only regret was not buying one sooner.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 8:41:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
This is true.

07 owner here. I couldn't afford a 12+ JK, so I got the 3.8. I have the stock 3.21 gears, with the 6 speed manual. I enjoy rowing the gears, but make no mistake, the transmission feels...agricultural. With the 32 inch tires that came on it when I bought this Jeep used, 6th gear is for flat ground only. Any hill pretty much requires a downshift. I intend to re-gear eventually, so that's a temporary matter. 

I was warned about the 3.8 and it's love for oil, but mine so far has not shown that to be the case. Maybe I got lucky, maybe I just haven't seen it yet. 

Feel free to ask me anything and I'll try to answer. 
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Originally Posted By Tweek:
The Pentastar engine (2012+) is more powerful (285hp vs. 202 of the older 3.8). Get one! Tons of fun!
This is true.

07 owner here. I couldn't afford a 12+ JK, so I got the 3.8. I have the stock 3.21 gears, with the 6 speed manual. I enjoy rowing the gears, but make no mistake, the transmission feels...agricultural. With the 32 inch tires that came on it when I bought this Jeep used, 6th gear is for flat ground only. Any hill pretty much requires a downshift. I intend to re-gear eventually, so that's a temporary matter. 

I was warned about the 3.8 and it's love for oil, but mine so far has not shown that to be the case. Maybe I got lucky, maybe I just haven't seen it yet. 

Feel free to ask me anything and I'll try to answer. 
2008 Wrangler 3.8 6 speed. Doesn't use any oil at all at 148,000 miles. Bought it used with some issues ( got a good deal) Engine light on, turned out to be a broken wire to an O2 sensor. Occasional no start, turned out previous owner attempted to hook up a remote start and buggered things up, fixed. Parking break didn't do much. Four wheel disk breaks, look up that job, what a treat. As someone else mentioned, 6th gear will require a down shift on all but small hills. Bought it for my son. We both like it a lot.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 8:55:30 PM EST
Thank everyone for the responses. Due to funds, I'm gonna be around 08-09. I'm ok with not having a speed racer, I just need enough to pull a trailer with a heavy bike on it if needed.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:08:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2017 9:14:07 PM EST by scuba_steve]
That engine sucks a bit.

I have a 2013 that I bought in 2012. Problem free so far, but it has a way to go to beat the 2001 TJ I drove for almost a dozen years. On the other hand, a Radio Flyer full of shit would be preferable to the 95 YJ lemon I drove until I picked up the TJ.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:09:24 PM EST
2017 JKU and 2004 TJU (long wheel-base version of the TJ) owner here. The 2017 replaced a 1992 XJ Cherokee with 405,000 miles. The TJ is built up as a trail rig/toy, the JK is the new daily driver. Only 700 miles so far on the JK, so no issues to report. Definitely way more comfortable interior than any previous Wrangler. I prefer manual transmission, but didn't like the manual in the 2017 I test drove. The manual felt sloppy compared to the AX15 manual in the older Jeeps, so I went with the automatic.

Go with hard top. It's easy to find an affordable after-market soft top if you want one later. Good luck finding a cheap hard top if you get one with a soft top.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:11:10 PM EST
Mines been good.

The a/c lines rattled so I had to put a twist tie on them. The brakes also groan when I take it out of park.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:13:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 14BoltFF:
2017 JKU and 2004 TJU (long wheel-base version of the TJ) owner here. The 2017 replaced a 1992 XJ Cherokee with 405,000 miles. The TJ is built up as a trail rig/toy, the JK is the new daily driver. Only 700 miles so far on the JK, so no issues to report. Definitely way more comfortable interior than any previous Wrangler. I prefer manual transmission, but didn't like the manual in the 2017 I test drove. The manual felt sloppy compared to the AX15 manual in the older Jeeps, so I went with the automatic.

Go with hard top. It's easy to find an affordable after-market soft top if you want one later. Good luck finding a cheap hard top if you get one with a soft top.
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Yeah, my 2013 JKR is the first automatic I have ever owned. And I like it. A lot. Good off road and even fun on the pavement. It's not a drag racer, but at nearly 300 HP with 4.10 gearing and that trans, I no longer need to frustrate everyone behind me at each red light.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:14:26 PM EST
2010 Unlimited 6 speed- 75,000 miles no problem except oil consumption.
I bought it new, changed oil.every 3,000 miles with full synthetic, oil consumption started around 40,000 miles.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:15:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bigshot64:
Thinking about buying one. Done want anything too big as it will be a daily driver. Might do a little off roading around my cabin and property but nothing worth a huge lift and tires etc.

Anyone had any problems with em? Looking at a manual trans, but any problems with auto ?

Tell me GD, how bad am I fucking up here?
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07-11 have the 3.8 Caravan motor, it's a turd but a reliable turd except for some leaks.

12+ Got the 285hp V6 from the Challengers just slightly detuned, 2012 had problems with the heads (exhaust manifolds made into the heads) cracking, they were redesigned and corrected late model year 2012, also some 2012 had issues with casting sand in the blocks weren't cleaned out properly before assembly and clogged the heater cores causing problems.

I had a 13 Rubicon wife put 60k on it with nothing but oil/fluid changes never had a problem.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:21:09 PM EST
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Meh, I got the soft-top after trying both. I didn't find the soft-top to be much louder and the heater is a freaking blast-furnace. Finally it seems that everyone with a hard-top talks about taking the top off, and never do it. I put the top up and down a lot.

Oh I haven't really been 4-wheeling, but I have done some fairly good mudding, and I drive it off road a lot.
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You don't drive at highways speeds often, do you? At low speeds, a soft top isn't bad, but they are much louder at highway speeds.

And the hard top is easier to take off and put on....as long as you have a place to store it.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:28:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/23/2017 9:34:21 PM EST by Normal_Guy]
09 auto - bought brand new. Upgraded shocks, steering stabilzer, brakes, axles, added beefy trans cooler and few other things becuse felt like it not because actually required. With all rebates and such at the time was barely 19k OTD. If wife would let me, could sell it tomorrow for 20 (yes I know there about 5k upgrades).

60k miles, basic maintanence only to driveline and its been pretty pounded on more than a few times. Prolly hand off to the boy and get new one when time comes.

Could do a lot worse than a Jeep JK.

Edit - 3.8 engine is OK. Nothing to celebrate but it has outperformed my expectations. Don't skip fluid changes on xfer case and F/R diffs. Be sure to remove doors and everything else that comes apart, lube them up if ever intend to get apart again,
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:34:48 PM EST
TJ= Last real Jeep
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:43:58 PM EST
This will be my first manual vehicle (besides bikes of course). I can drive them obviously but I've never owned one. Fixin to change that
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 9:48:30 PM EST
Got 4 in my garage.

We love um.

Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:03:56 PM EST
Love my Jeep...

I have 2008 JK X 2 door, Factory Tow package 3.73 gears (tow rating only 2,000lbs) auto trans, rear factory locker, factory front disco, AC, Power windows, Infinity surround sound with sub.

Bought it new, Only had a couple problem's: my door hinges the paint flaked off, the dealer repainted them and I had one rear brake caliper fuck up, I replaced it.
Also had drivers seat height adjuster handle break, I replaced it with Billet aluminum one.
All 08s were sold with life time warranty on engine and drive train, Not transferable though...


FYI there were a lot of 08 jeeps and possibly 07s and 09s that have experienced high oil usage, my understanding was the engines assembled in Mexico, many had the rings installed improperly upside down or wrong order something like that.
Some in excess of 1 quart per month
I haven't had any oil issues with mine
I use Mobil 1 synthetic 5w20 since the first oil change.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:18:20 PM EST
'07 auto here. Daily driver, around 30-40 miles a day. Bought it with about 40k, now it's around 140k. Engine does ok. It gets a little sluggish around 45mph, then does fine after that. Only non maintenance thing I remember doing was an intake manifold gasket. Has an intermittent death wobble about 45mph that I need to work on. It happens rarely, and I haven't had time to mess with it. I don't haul with it and I don't off road with it. Only thing I ask it to do is get me to work everyday. It does that fine....but so would anything else.

Also, mine is the regular size 2 door. If you think anyone will ever use the back seat, it's a real pain getting in and out. The back seat just becomes a catchall for crap.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:24:49 PM EST
15 jku auto hardtop.

Test drove a 17 jku manual softop. Love manuals (cars), hated the clutch on the jku. Soft top was soooooooooooo noisy at 60mph.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:27:22 PM EST
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You don't drive at highways speeds often, do you? At low speeds, a soft top isn't bad, but they are much louder at highway speeds.

And the hard top is easier to take off and put on....as long as you have a place to store it.
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Not too much highway driving, just 80 miles a day. Every one I know with a hard top, leaves the top on. They take it off when they first get it, then leave it on.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:30:18 PM EST
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'07 auto here. Daily driver, around 30-40 miles a day. Bought it with about 40k, now it's around 140k. Engine does ok. It gets a little sluggish around 45mph, then does fine after that. Only non maintenance thing I remember doing was an intake manifold gasket. Has an intermittent death wobble about 45mph that I need to work on. It happens rarely, and I haven't had time to mess with it. I don't haul with it and I don't off road with it. Only thing I ask it to do is get me to work everyday. It does that fine....but so would anything else.

Also, mine is the regular size 2 door. If you think anyone will ever use the back seat, it's a real pain getting in and out. The back seat just becomes a catchall for crap.
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I yanked my backseat and have no intentions of putting it back in
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:35:08 PM EST
I have a 2010 JK sport 6 speed with 42k miles on her. Runs like a champ (knock on wood). Use rotella t6 and wix filters. 4" lift, 35" pro comps, superchips programmed. Can get 20mpg on Hwy ... normally I get about 19 on Hwy and 17 in stop and go.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:06:34 PM EST
2008 original owner of a JKU. Love the Jeep. But used to own a '95 YJ w/ the 4.0.. and this engine lacks.

But!! It' still very reliable as long as you keep oil in it! Yes! It "consumes" oil as the service mgr told me with a smile back around 23,000 mi.

So I deal with it, and on the weekends I check her and filll her up.

Not the end of the world, the motor has been great otherwise.

I've done all the fluid stuff myself, mostly because I started to care about the "oil consumption" problem,
but also because I like working on my own vehicle. So since that point where I realized the Jeep had a thirst for oil, I've done all the oil changes, one transmission filter
change and flush, diff fluids, transfer case fluids, front brakes, new radiator (it sprung a leak at 102,000).

Also, I had my hinges repainted by the dealer (and primed properly)
to solve that issue! Surprised Chrysler actually covered this work.

Have had the notorious "Death Wobble" about 4 or 5 times. Alignment goes a long way to stop this. Also, people dont realize that solid axle truck suspensions are susceptible to this, regardless of make..

Bushings in suspension at 102k need to be next addressed so that's what I'm looking at now.

Bottom line is.. Jeeps are great, so much fun. Depending on the year, maybe some repair in order, but it's funny, I've owned Honda's with more issues, so who knows!
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:18:21 PM EST
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LOL. Sure.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:38:18 PM EST
I keep getting a Jeep itch, but my next car is a new truck, mine is getting up there.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:39:56 PM EST
Get a TJ (1997-2006), much better in many ways.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:41:16 PM EST
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LOL. Sure.
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Originally Posted By JUDGED12carried6:
TJ= Last real Jeep
LOL. Sure.
He's not wrong.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:43:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ToledoXJ:
This is good to read. Do any of the above posters wheel at all or are most miles on the road? I want a JK bad but I keep getting scared off.

I belong to a local FB offroad club. Being in Toledo it's freaking huge and a LOT of Jeep employees. I can't believe all the issues they have with them. Blown engines, burning oil, low mile deathwobble, electrical issues and one guy has an 08 with part of the frame eaten by rust. 

I think I've decided to overpay for a TJ instead since I understand them better after owning 3 XJs. 


By the way, wheeling here is pretty mild. The terrain is like Nebraska
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Good choice. So many issues with JKs, every dealer in the area takes a week+ to fix shit too, must be a lot of them.

My TJ and XJ on the other hand keep on rolling and everything is cheap to fix. My Land Cruiser is an even better ownership experience. I'm thinking of ditching the TJ and XJ to build up a GX470.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:45:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TXHillCountry:
Good choice. So many issues with JKs, every dealer in the area takes a week+ to fix shit too, must be a lot of them.

My TJ and XJ on the other hand keep on rolling and everything is cheap to fix. My Land Cruiser is an even better ownership experience. I'm thinking of ditching the TJ and XJ to build up a GX470.
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Originally Posted By ToledoXJ:
This is good to read. Do any of the above posters wheel at all or are most miles on the road? I want a JK bad but I keep getting scared off.

I belong to a local FB offroad club. Being in Toledo it's freaking huge and a LOT of Jeep employees. I can't believe all the issues they have with them. Blown engines, burning oil, low mile deathwobble, electrical issues and one guy has an 08 with part of the frame eaten by rust. 

I think I've decided to overpay for a TJ instead since I understand them better after owning 3 XJs. 


By the way, wheeling here is pretty mild. The terrain is like Nebraska
Good choice. So many issues with JKs, every dealer in the area takes a week+ to fix shit too, must be a lot of them.

My TJ and XJ on the other hand keep on rolling and everything is cheap to fix. My Land Cruiser is an even better ownership experience. I'm thinking of ditching the TJ and XJ to build up a GX470.
The JK got fed.reg.fucked in 2007. No matter what anyone says about it, it happen. Don't blame Jeep.
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