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Posted: 10/23/2016 11:32:06 PM EDT
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I had an '02 Civic, but the wife of the mechanic that I used had an '05 Civic. When my '02 Civic hit 190K, the head gasket failed because the head became warped over time. When I talked to the mechanic about it, he said that it was common problem, and that his wife's car's gasket failed as well. This is a fairly expensive repair as the head has to be sent out to be machined flat again. When I asked him what he did, he said that he traded it in. Up until that point, my Civic had been nearly completely reliable with only three major problems (a faulty TDC sensor, a failed catalytic converter, and radiator that had to be replaced). We had more problems out of the '02 Accord in comparison (transmission issues, a new starter, a rattle in the catalytic converter, and finally a crack in the engine block where the coolant entered it).
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Posted: 10/23/2016 11:40:10 PM EDT
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How did you lose 4k on a bad tranny?
Either way, you are upping into the chipped Honda keys so you won't have to deal with the rampant theft |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 11:57:08 PM EDT
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How did you lose 4k on a bad tranny? Either way, you are upping into the chipped Honda keys so you won't have to deal with the rampant theft I had $4k in the car, and when the tranny blew, I had to salvage the car for $150. It only had 120k miles on it, and I was panning on taking it to 200k, but it only lasted a year! I cannot afford another money pit like that. My son makes minimum wage at Jimmy Johns, and cant really even afford minor repairs, so I end up paying for everything. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:10:17 AM EDT
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Bad choice on that car. Trannys are everywhere, granted quite a few are hot. Took way to big of a hit there.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:10:41 AM EDT
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Honda has had some problems in the past with automatics combined with the V6 motors. The biggest thing I would be concerned about with the Civic is the timing belt and has it been replaced. If it hasn't it is due.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:10:46 AM EDT
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There really is no bad year on Civics, they have had the same 1.8L engine for ages. Ask for receipts with regards to timing belt replacement, it lasts 100K and I doubt they have changed it yet, since people LOVE to defer maintenance. If the timing belt has not been done, tell them to knock $1K off the price, or walk.
I would have kept the accord though. You probably have sourced a decent used tranny and had it replaced for under $1500, and would have had the car for another 120K miles. ETA> I'm talking about a 4 cyl Accord, if it's a V6, good junking... I hate the damn things. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:36:59 AM EDT
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I had an 06 manual and an 09 auto. Both were cheap and when compared to what Honda was in the 90's and early 2000's (my first car was a 97 integra), complete shit. Cheap, plastic, garbage. I personally would not buy another.
Save yourself the headache and get a Toyota. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:40:09 AM EDT
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Honda has had some problems in the past with automatics combined with the V6 motors. The biggest thing I would be concerned about with the Civic is the timing belt and has it been replaced. If it hasn't it is due. That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:51:58 AM EDT
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Swap in the B18 or whatever that engine was.
Forgot all my Honda lingo. Just not the SOHC one. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 1:07:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honda has had some problems in the past with automatics combined with the V6 motors. The biggest thing I would be concerned about with the Civic is the timing belt and has it been replaced. If it hasn't it is due. That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. I know my new Honda has a chain. My son in laws old civic had a belt. I don't know when Honda started the transition to chains and on what motors. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 1:26:08 AM EDT
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I had $4k in the car, and when the tranny blew, I had to salvage the car for $150. It only had 120k miles on it, and I was panning on taking it to 200k, but it only lasted a year! I cannot afford another money pit like that. My son makes minimum wage at Jimmy Johns, and cant really even afford minor repairs, so I end up paying for everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did you lose 4k on a bad tranny? Either way, you are upping into the chipped Honda keys so you won't have to deal with the rampant theft I had $4k in the car, and when the tranny blew, I had to salvage the car for $150. It only had 120k miles on it, and I was panning on taking it to 200k, but it only lasted a year! I cannot afford another money pit like that. My son makes minimum wage at Jimmy Johns, and cant really even afford minor repairs, so I end up paying for everything. rather than put a $1000 transmission in it or a $200 pull out, you junked it? |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 1:26:16 AM EDT
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That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honda has had some problems in the past with automatics combined with the V6 motors. The biggest thing I would be concerned about with the Civic is the timing belt and has it been replaced. If it hasn't it is due. That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. Yea, the 2000 Accord was the EX, V6. Hunk of shit. And the frame was apparently bent since new tires were absolutely ruined in one year too. Good riddens. For such low mileage it was a real downer. The 2006 Civic EX I'm looking fist tomorrow has 103k miles and no timing belt done. I do intend to ask for $1k off for that, plus it has a lot of paint chipping off the roof (almost the entire roof). But he says "no mechanical problems". I'm probably going to buy it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 1:34:54 AM EDT
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Why didn't you just put a used tranny in the accord instead of losing $3850 on it?
Why would you buy another honda if it left a bad taste in your mouth? Why would you think you'll get $1k off the civic you're lookiing at cause timing belt service may need to be done? Lots of wtf in here. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 2:16:55 AM EDT
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Why didn't you just put a used tranny in the accord instead of losing $3850 on it? Why would you buy another honda if it left a bad taste in your mouth? Why would you think you'll get $1k off the civic you're lookiing at cause timing belt service may need to be done? Lots of wtf in here. 1) Because tranny costs around $2k and the car was not worth much more than that 2) Because Honda is still one of the most reliable brands, even though the 2000 Accord EX was a POS 3) I'd try to get $1k off the asking price regardless, but this is a strong negotiating point I just want to be sure the 2005 or 2006 Civic isn't a POS too. All brands have problems. If nothing else someone might know what to look out for. I know cracked engine blocks are a common problem on these so I'll check that out, but personal stories are often very helpful. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 2:27:21 AM EDT
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Google engine block cracking on Honda Civics. I believe it was 2006 through 2009. Honda extended the warranty for a while, but iirc, 06 is now out of the warranty extension. We had a few as work vehicles, all but 1 had the blocks crack and had to be replaced by Honda.
ETA: The ones we had seemed to have a high rate of a/c compressor failures. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 7:53:42 AM EDT
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Honda has had some problems in the past with automatics combined with the V6 motors. The biggest thing I would be concerned about with the Civic is the timing belt and has it been replaced. If it hasn't it is due. this get a Toyota corolla |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 8:04:40 AM EDT
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Wife just traded off her 2006 civic that had 205k on it and I think it could have gone another 50k with a little money back in. The one thing to watch is the engine blocks had some issues , but Honda will cover it.
Good A to B cars. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 8:17:39 AM EDT
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1) Because tranny costs around $2k and the car was not worth much more than that. not a used one, and they are everywhere. 2) Because Honda is still one of the most reliable brands, even though the 2000 Accord EX was a POS you bought the car at 110k, when you buy a used car, you can literally be getting anything. 3) I'd try to get $1k off the asking price regardless, but this is a strong negotiating point I just want to be sure the 2005 or 2006 Civic isn't a POS too. All brands have problems. If nothing else someone might know what to look out for. I know cracked engine blocks are a common problem on these so I'll check that out, but personal stories are often very helpful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why didn't you just put a used tranny in the accord instead of losing $3850 on it? Why would you buy another honda if it left a bad taste in your mouth? Why would you think you'll get $1k off the civic you're lookiing at cause timing belt service may need to be done? Lots of wtf in here. 1) Because tranny costs around $2k and the car was not worth much more than that. not a used one, and they are everywhere. 2) Because Honda is still one of the most reliable brands, even though the 2000 Accord EX was a POS you bought the car at 110k, when you buy a used car, you can literally be getting anything. 3) I'd try to get $1k off the asking price regardless, but this is a strong negotiating point I just want to be sure the 2005 or 2006 Civic isn't a POS too. All brands have problems. If nothing else someone might know what to look out for. I know cracked engine blocks are a common problem on these so I'll check that out, but personal stories are often very helpful. See above and... I'd take an 04 and up accord before I'd take that civic, the k series motor is much better. 05-06 civic had a change with the rear upper control arms in 07 or 08 I believe. Early models of that gen were too short and cupped rear tires badly of you didn't rotate them religiously. The r18 was susceptible to blowing out water jackets in some runs, but they extended the warranty on the affected years to cover it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 8:50:26 AM EDT
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you might consider a ford focus, 2000/2004, there a cheap economy car like a civic, they need a timing belt
at 100k other than that there cheap to keep going...there are forums that cover all the little chit that fails on them parts are cheap for them and online everywhere not dealer only. as you learned on your last deal really check out the transmission on 100k plus car, Hondas are insane on resale around seattle you can get a nice focus for 3/4 k. an a timing belt and water pump cuzz your there runs about $800 with no other surprises when doing the job, like the guy says back 900 out of the price if they dont have a receipt showing it was done at 100k |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 10:55:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See above and... I'd take an 04 and up accord before I'd take that civic, the k series motor is much better. 05-06 civic had a change with the rear upper control arms in 07 or 08 I believe. Early models of that gen were too short and cupped rear tires badly of you didn't rotate them religiously. The r18 was susceptible to blowing out water jackets in some runs, but they extended the warranty on the affected years to cover it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why didn't you just put a used tranny in the accord instead of losing $3850 on it? Why would you buy another honda if it left a bad taste in your mouth? Why would you think you'll get $1k off the civic you're lookiing at cause timing belt service may need to be done? Lots of wtf in here. 1) Because tranny costs around $2k and the car was not worth much more than that. not a used one, and they are everywhere. 2) Because Honda is still one of the most reliable brands, even though the 2000 Accord EX was a POS you bought the car at 110k, when you buy a used car, you can literally be getting anything. 3) I'd try to get $1k off the asking price regardless, but this is a strong negotiating point I just want to be sure the 2005 or 2006 Civic isn't a POS too. All brands have problems. If nothing else someone might know what to look out for. I know cracked engine blocks are a common problem on these so I'll check that out, but personal stories are often very helpful. See above and... I'd take an 04 and up accord before I'd take that civic, the k series motor is much better. 05-06 civic had a change with the rear upper control arms in 07 or 08 I believe. Early models of that gen were too short and cupped rear tires badly of you didn't rotate them religiously. The r18 was susceptible to blowing out water jackets in some runs, but they extended the warranty on the affected years to cover it. He had a V6 Accord, so it was probably a good toss. I love the 4 cyl. Accords, I've fixed up and sold quite a few of them, I won't touch a V6, too hard to work on, and too many problems. Did not know that about the R18, or the control arms though... thank you for giving me more knowledge to add to the 'shit to day away from' database. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 11:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honda has had some problems in the past with automatics combined with the V6 motors. The biggest thing I would be concerned about with the Civic is the timing belt and has it been replaced. If it hasn't it is due. That was my first thought when I read the OP. I'm guessing it was a V6 car. The 2006 Civic has a R18. If I recall correctly, those have timing chains, not belts. We've had an 05 Civic with the D17 in it for almost ten years and it's been great. It's at 170k now and going strong. Assuming it passes the usual used car once over it should be good to go with little maintenance. I would suggest replacing the timing belt and water pump first off just to help protect the investment, and check for airbag recalls. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 11:05:18 PM EDT
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He had a V6 Accord, so it was probably a good toss. I love the 4 cyl. Accords, I've fixed up and sold quite a few of them, I won't touch a V6, too hard to work on, and too many problems. Did not know that about the R18, or the control arms though... thank you for giving me more knowledge to add to the 'shit to day away from' database. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why didn't you just put a used tranny in the accord instead of losing $3850 on it? Why would you buy another honda if it left a bad taste in your mouth? Why would you think you'll get $1k off the civic you're lookiing at cause timing belt service may need to be done? Lots of wtf in here. 1) Because tranny costs around $2k and the car was not worth much more than that. not a used one, and they are everywhere. 2) Because Honda is still one of the most reliable brands, even though the 2000 Accord EX was a POS you bought the car at 110k, when you buy a used car, you can literally be getting anything. 3) I'd try to get $1k off the asking price regardless, but this is a strong negotiating point I just want to be sure the 2005 or 2006 Civic isn't a POS too. All brands have problems. If nothing else someone might know what to look out for. I know cracked engine blocks are a common problem on these so I'll check that out, but personal stories are often very helpful. See above and... I'd take an 04 and up accord before I'd take that civic, the k series motor is much better. 05-06 civic had a change with the rear upper control arms in 07 or 08 I believe. Early models of that gen were too short and cupped rear tires badly of you didn't rotate them religiously. The r18 was susceptible to blowing out water jackets in some runs, but they extended the warranty on the affected years to cover it. He had a V6 Accord, so it was probably a good toss. I love the 4 cyl. Accords, I've fixed up and sold quite a few of them, I won't touch a V6, too hard to work on, and too many problems. Did not know that about the R18, or the control arms though... thank you for giving me more knowledge to add to the 'shit to day away from' database. His accord was an older gen with belts, which isn't bad but the 04+ accord have the k series. A much more advanced motor and has a timing chain, not belt like the f series and v6. A close friend was a tech at Honda and the k series Hondas (accord, tsx) were very, very problem free. He said those hardly ever came back with weird issues. The civic will likely be fine, but for roughly the same price now, I'd get an accord hands down. The tsx was on my list of possible daily drivers (same as an accord but a bit nicer inside). |
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