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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:35:28 AM EDT
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4 cylinder? The water pump is driven by the timing belt. If the pump seized and broke the belt the 4cylinders are non interference engines, so there isn't any chance of valve damage. Slap on a new pump and belt and it will be good for another 100k miles
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:37:43 AM EDT
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My guess is water pump. Replace water pump and timing belt. If you still like the car and everything else is in good shape, I would probably repair and keep driving.
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:37:52 AM EDT
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4 cylinder? The water pump is driven by the timing belt. If the pump seized and broke the belt the 4cylinders are non interference engines, so there using any chance of valve damage. Slap on a new pump and belt and it will be good for another 100k miles |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:38:57 AM EDT
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Whats the rest of the car like? Transmission, suspension? Interior, electronics?
If the answer is good to those, then even a 2k repair would be economically smart and probably give you another 100k miles. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:41:10 AM EDT
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Three options here:
1. Sell car for $500, go buy another Camry just like it for $500. 2. Give a mechanic $350-$500, let them fix it, keep on driving. 3. Do it yourself for $100 |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:46:00 AM EDT
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those years the 4cylinders had a bad run of castings, and would pull the threads out of the block, causing the head gasket to blow/leak. i did a 2003 highlander a couple years back, had to order a kit similar to a timesert, but the process was simple but time consuming.
pull everything apart and get the head off, drill out each of the head bolt holes, re-thread and then set steel insert one at a time. once done, new HG and then put all the damn accessories back on and hope it starts. after that it should be GTG. EDIT: i bought the highlander for a grand from a coworker that had owned it since new, and had meticulously maintained it at the dealership for 114k miles. I spent 500 on taxes and registration, 500 on parts and the insert tools, and sold it for 6500. unless your camry is super clean and straight, its probably time for the junkyard. FWIW, the dealer quoted her 4 grand to do the thread repair job. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:46:35 AM EDT
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Three options here: 1. Sell car for $500, go buy another Camry just like it for $500. 2. Give a mechanic $350-$500, let them fix it, keep on driving. 3. Do it yourself for $100 
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:50:29 AM EDT
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Whats the rest of the car like? Transmission, suspension? Interior, electronics? If the answer is good to those, then even a 2k repair would be economically smart and probably give you another 100k miles.  overall it runs and drives great though. It's got mild cosmetic issues but it's cheap as crap to drive.AND I literally JUST put a brand new EGR system in it, which was a #$%$@#$@#$@#$@#$ to do, that VSV valve location. And it's got a rebuilt tranny a year ago. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:52:38 AM EDT
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4 cylinder? The water pump is driven by the timing belt. If the pump seized and broke the belt the 4cylinders are non interference engines, so there isn't any chance of valve damage. Slap on a new pump and belt and it will be good for another 100k miles I'll pull the belt cover off and look it it. That set of symptoms sounds plausible. Just hoping it's not the head/gasket. That's a pain in the ass. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:58:21 AM EDT
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Three options here: 1. Sell car for $500, go buy another Camry just like it for $500. 2. Give a mechanic $350-$500, let them fix it, keep on driving. 3. Do it yourself for $100 |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 1:58:31 AM EDT
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first post strikes again!
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Posted: 2/4/2018 2:13:26 AM EDT
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The water pump is run by the timing belt. It leaked and caused the belt to slip. It's not an interference engine so it's ok. New water pump, new belt, new idler pulleys and it'll run for another 100k. Easy job but takes awhile.
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Posted: 2/4/2018 2:57:34 AM EDT
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Timing belts and antifreeze don't play well together.
It could also be the bearing in the pump wore out, allowing antifreeze to come out the weep hole. After enough antifreeze got on the belt, bye-bye teeth on the belt. This is why most shops will replace the WP when they do the belt. Cheap insurance. Hardest part will be resetting the timing. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 3:32:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would have never guessed a water pump would bring a car down like that. I'll pull the belt cover off and look it it. That set of symptoms sounds plausible. Just hoping it's not the head/gasket. That's a pain in the ass. At least there is only one head Is there water in theoil? |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 6:04:22 AM EDT
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I think those have a timing chain. Or did that start in 02?
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Posted: 2/4/2018 6:59:47 AM EDT
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Timing belts and antifreeze don't play well together.
It could also be the bearing in the pump wore out, allowing antifreeze to come out the weep hole. After enough antifreeze got on the belt, bye-bye teeth on the belt. This is why most shops will replace the WP when they do the belt. Cheap insurance. Hardest part will be resetting the timing. 
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Posted: 2/4/2018 7:20:13 AM EDT
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hard question, I mean it's got 200K on it overall it runs and drives great though. It's got mild cosmetic issues but it's cheap as crap to drive.AND I literally JUST put a brand new EGR system in it, which was a #$%$@#$@#$@#$@#$ to do, that VSV valve location. And it's got a rebuilt tranny a year ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats the rest of the car like? Transmission, suspension? Interior, electronics? If the answer is good to those, then even a 2k repair would be economically smart and probably give you another 100k miles. overall it runs and drives great though. It's got mild cosmetic issues but it's cheap as crap to drive.AND I literally JUST put a brand new EGR system in it, which was a #$%$@#$@#$@#$@#$ to do, that VSV valve location. And it's got a rebuilt tranny a year ago.
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Posted: 2/4/2018 7:43:06 AM EDT
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The Toyota owner mantra strikes again "just oil changes and tires".
You know you're supposed to maintain a vehicle right? 
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:44:24 AM EDT
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Another vote for water pump
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:50:54 AM EDT
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FPNI
Seriously OP, if your timing belt or water pump failed and you over heated so bad it shut off, there is no install a new pump and timing belt and it’s fixed. Likely you blew the head gasket as well if you ran it until it shut off on it’s own. If the belt didn’t snap and simply the water pump impeller or bearing failed, you cooked the motor. If the belt failed you may be ok. It is work inspecting and not assuming what failed. $100 fix my, yea ok... |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:51:39 AM EDT
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I think those have a timing chain. Or did that start in 02? |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:53:44 AM EDT
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At least do some work to diagnose - if just the water pump awesome. Fairly cheap / easy to get running again, replacing coolant is expensive part.
That said - anytime water leaking externally from block area, could be bad. At least take look make sure nothing is cracked / blown out. If run hot, head may have cracked / warped or blown gasket. Be sure to check / test before spending too much. Last week did brake booster for an elder neighbors '94 Corolla - that was interesting. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:55:01 AM EDT
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Yup. Sounds like water pump seized to me. New timing belt and water pump, ready for another 100k miles. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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4 cylinder? The water pump is driven by the timing belt. If the pump seized and broke the belt the 4cylinders are non interference engines, so there using any chance of valve damage. Slap on a new pump and belt and it will be good for another 100k miles |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:56:31 AM EDT
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How the F do you end up with a Solara Convertible when searching for 2001 Camry? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Three options here: 1. Sell car for $500, go buy another Camry just like it for $500. 2. Give a mechanic $350-$500, let them fix it, keep on driving. 3. Do it yourself for $100 |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:56:37 AM EDT
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If the rest of the car is in good shape and you like it, have the water pump and timing belt replaced. It'll cost, what? $500 - 750?
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:00:04 AM EDT
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Time for the junkyard, that motor (or probably just the head) is toast.
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:02:47 AM EDT
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Notice any chirping noises or a faint smell of coolant or loss of coolant before this happened? Water pumps sometimes let you know the bearing/seal is going bad before the bearing completely gives out and dumps coolant.
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:03:53 AM EDT
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Fix the car on the cheap, buy more gun stuff! A one time repair will be cheaper that a long series of payments.
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:04:14 AM EDT
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Seriously OP, if your timing belt or water pump failed and you over heated so bad it shut off, there is no install a new pump and timing belt and it’s fixed. Likely you blew the head gasket as well if you ran it until it shut off on it’s own. If the belt didn’t snap and simply the water pump impeller or bearing failed, you cooked the motor. If the belt failed you may be ok. It is work inspecting and not assuming what failed. $100 fix my, yea ok... Timing belt and water pump kit |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:24:23 AM EDT
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Timing belts and antifreeze don't play well together.
It could also be the bearing in the pump wore out, allowing antifreeze to come out the weep hole. After enough antifreeze got on the belt, bye-bye teeth on the belt. This is why most shops will replace the WP when they do the belt. Cheap insurance. Hardest part will be resetting the timing. If you pull have to pull the timing cover go ahead and replace water pump, cam and crank seals, pull the oil pump and re seal. I pulled mine and the shaft was worn and had to be replaced. Replace idler pulleys and tensioner. Buy the kit online it comes with all this.... Also you’ll need a spark plug oil tube seals When you pull the plug wires don’t be alarmed if there is oil on the bottom of the boots, it’s just the tube seals leaking. Make sure you reseal the valve covers with permatex black or toyota brand really good, there are like 3 critical spots that will leak on them if you don’t, one is on the back passenger side one is near a “key way” you can see when you pull it off While you have the valve covers off you mights as well adjust the valves, you just need some feeler gauges. Get a chilton manual and torque everything correctly especially the big nuts that hold on the valve cover |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:10:36 PM EDT
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Timing belts and antifreeze don't play well together.
It could also be the bearing in the pump wore out, allowing antifreeze to come out the weep hole. After enough antifreeze got on the belt, bye-bye teeth on the belt. This is why most shops will replace the WP when they do the belt. Cheap insurance. Hardest part will be resetting the timing. from watching a video it looks like I can use a 19mm to turn the crank to line up the marks, and turn the cam pulleys with maybe a strap wrench, but not sure how to tell if they are on intake or exhaust parts of the cycle based on the marks. Most Chilton type manuals cover how to change a belt before it is broke, not how to unscramble it if the belt broke. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:12:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a good plan. At least there is only one head Is there water in theoil? BTW sorry my responses are so spotty, I've been flat on my ass with the flu for a week, I can still only stand up for a few minutes at a time |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:16:15 PM EDT
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FPNI Seriously OP, if your timing belt or water pump failed and you over heated so bad it shut off, there is no install a new pump and timing belt and it’s fixed. Likely you blew the head gasket as well if you ran it until it shut off on it’s own. If the belt didn’t snap and simply the water pump impeller or bearing failed, you cooked the motor. If the belt failed you may be ok. It is work inspecting and not assuming what failed. $100 fix my, yea ok... guessing the timing belt either had a piece come off, or the water pump started to fail, that's the real low sound I heard, and it locked up and sheared the belt. When it died there was steam/water coming out of the timing belt cover, coolant leaking out of the cover under the car, and a sort of a burnt rubber/clutch smell, which I'm guess was the belt burning over the water pump when it seized. this is all just what I remember from when it died. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:20:40 PM EDT
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"200k is nothing for a Toyota." -GD
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:26:39 PM EDT
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Time for the junkyard, that motor (or probably just the head) is toast. I pulled the head and oil pan, had the head shaved because it was warped and replaced the timing chain, cover and water pump. Cleaned the water oil pudding out of the oil pan and put her all back together. Think I spent $600 in parts and having the head shaved and cleaned. This was in 2010 and I still drive that truck and it runs fine. My truck is a 94 4x4 and she has 280k miles. Not sure about the Camery, but his engine wasn't in bad as shape as mine so he might be ok. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:41:49 PM EDT
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those years the 4cylinders had a bad run of castings, and would pull the threads out of the block, causing the head gasket to blow/leak. i did a 2003 highlander a couple years back, had to order a kit similar to a timesert, but the process was simple but time consuming. pull everything apart and get the head off, drill out each of the head bolt holes, re-thread and then set steel insert one at a time. once done, new HG and then put all the damn accessories back on and hope it starts. after that it should be GTG. EDIT: i bought the highlander for a grand from a coworker that had owned it since new, and had meticulously maintained it at the dealership for 114k miles. I spent 500 on taxes and registration, 500 on parts and the insert tools, and sold it for 6500. unless your camry is super clean and straight, its probably time for the junkyard. FWIW, the dealer quoted her 4 grand to do the thread repair job. The Highlander was a 2azfe, which is chain driven. That's the one that had the problem with head bolts. His is a 2.2 if I recall correctly with a timing belt. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:41:59 PM EDT
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???Toyota has a great reputation......keep on fixing chit, and they keep on running???
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:47:21 PM EDT
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"200k is nothing for a Toyota." -GD |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:48:52 PM EDT
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If the rest of the car is in good shape and you like it, have the water pump and timing belt replaced. It'll cost, what? $500 - 750? |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:49:56 PM EDT
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???Toyota has a great reputation......keep on fixing chit, and they keep on running???
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:51:09 PM EDT
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It's true, but they do need timing belts and other wear parts replaced every few years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"200k is nothing for a Toyota." -GD
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Posted: 2/4/2018 9:57:31 PM EDT
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The Toyota owner mantra strikes again "just oil changes and tires". You know you're supposed to maintain a vehicle right? But you have the history of the car - fix it and keep grinding out the miles. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:16:04 PM EDT
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Here's what you do |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:20:37 PM EDT
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Because the Solara is a Camry. It's official name was the Camry Solara, and it's really just a sporty 2 door Camry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Three options here: 1. Sell car for $500, go buy another Camry just like it for $500. 2. Give a mechanic $350-$500, let them fix it, keep on driving. 3. Do it yourself for $100 You know that. Everyone else knows that. At the same time, we all know the OP isn't talking about no stinking Solara, so why the F would you bring it up? |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the F do you end up with a Solara Convertible when searching for 2001 Camry? |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:31:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nein, homeboy. The Highlander was a 2azfe, which is chain driven. That's the one that had the problem with head bolts. His is a 2.2 if I recall correctly with a timing belt. The advantage to fixing this is I just put an entirely new catalytic converter and EGR system in it to pass emissions. Like, 500 miles or less ago. of course the temptation with these cars is "just fix this one last thing" when it just keeps breaking. FWIW, this car burns no oil at all, engine seems in good shape otherwise. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:31:32 PM EDT
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I also vote for water pump & timing belt.
It could be worse... On the older 22R motors, they had a similar setup with the water pump being mounted as part of the timing chain cover. There is also a spring tensioner inside the cover for the timing chain. Apparently, if one were to let the tensioner wear out, there's enough slack in the timing chain to start digging into the side of the aluminum timing chain cover, eventually breaching all the way through into the water pump. This floods the crankcase with coolant, mimicking the symptoms of a blown head gasket. I picked up the truck for cheap as a project, thinking it was just a simple head gasket replacement. I was amazed when I took the timing chain cover off and saw the deep gouges worn completely through the side of the housing. I lucked out and was able to rob another timing chain cover off of a friend's spare motor. As I said, it could be worse...
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:34:59 PM EDT
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2001 with a 2.2L gas engine. Timing belt on the L side of engine bay (Passenger side). The advantage to fixing this is I just put an entirely new catalytic converter and EGR system in it to pass emissions. Like, 500 miles or less ago. of course the temptation with these cars is "just fix this one last thing" when it just keeps breaking. FWIW, this car burns no oil at all, engine seems in good shape otherwise. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nein, homeboy. The Highlander was a 2azfe, which is chain driven. That's the one that had the problem with head bolts. His is a 2.2 if I recall correctly with a timing belt. The advantage to fixing this is I just put an entirely new catalytic converter and EGR system in it to pass emissions. Like, 500 miles or less ago. of course the temptation with these cars is "just fix this one last thing" when it just keeps breaking. FWIW, this car burns no oil at all, engine seems in good shape otherwise. |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 10:53:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if you pay to have work done, a month or two of $500 payments on a new car will always cover a year of repairs. Pick out a new car you like, and find out what the payments will be. Fix your existing car, and start putting these monthly payments into a repair/down payment fund. Odds are you'll have enough saved up to buy your next car in cash before this one is beyond repair. |
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Posted: 2/5/2018 12:18:20 AM EDT
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Timing the engine is easy. Toyota makes it easy. There are lines one the pulleys that line up with timing marks. Don't sweat it.
I got scared when a cam sprang out of time when I cut the timing belt on a Subaru.
I believe the cam pulleys rotate 2x per crank revolution. That is to exhaust emissions, then intake fresh air for the combustion cycle. Find a forum with a timing belt swap for your car. |
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