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Posted: 8/18/2005 6:44:41 AM EDT
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Don't worry, you've got a good chance of making it. Besides, with a good dog, blind people can do lots of things.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 6:45:39 AM EDT
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2 eye surgeries... don't know if I can stomach a third.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 6:47:43 AM EDT
[#3]
It should be fine... I hear that at least 6 or 7 out of ten people do just fine with it.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 6:48:44 AM EDT
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I hope it doesn't turn out like whats his name...
 ETA: the laser setting was too high, and the blade was not calibrated correctly! 
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Posted: 8/18/2005 6:52:54 AM EDT
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Thanks gang. I knew that a good laugh would take away all the tension.
 Damn, I'm gonna g through ARFCOM withdrawl for 48 hrs!!! Oops, my wife is home ... my ride is ready. I'm off. |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 6:54:08 AM EDT
[#6]
Don't worry, one day you'll read the internet in braille.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:37:47 AM EDT
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The porn sites are the best that way! 
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:39:00 AM EDT
[#8]
Best $20 i ever spent.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:40:59 AM EDT
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Don't go through with it! I just read about a new technique that is going to be approved soon that uses a more powerful laser that can directly correct the eye without having to cut a flap. This method is supposed to give significantly sharper vision and it won't mess with your night vision.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:41:47 AM EDT
[#10]
Remember don't pic at the skin flaps
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:42:17 AM EDT
[#11]
can you still bail out? I wouldnt take the chance unless it was a last resort and I was almost blind
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:47:27 AM EDT
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No Shito Too much risk involved for a relatively new procedure. Just look at how some folks around here see 
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Posted: 8/18/2005 8:31:28 AM EDT
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let us know if there were any side effects.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 8:56:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Better put an IM in on those Braille Playboys over in the EE
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:07:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Good luck. Be sure to let us know how you like your new eyes.
One day, I may consider such a treatment myself. NTM |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:08:49 AM EDT
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I had it done about 5 yrs ago only have to have a 5X mag screen over my Monitor to read and write now.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:12:58 AM EDT
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That is true. My wife had LASIK in April. She has never fully recovered her eyesight. She now wears glasses (Again!) and I'm out the $3700. As I understand it...a congenital defect in the outer layer of her cornea, call the epithelium, was a bit loose on Miz LWilde...NOT a normal occurence in 90% of folks. When the keratome knife made the cut, the layer "scrunched" up like saran wrap. When she couldn't SEE after the surgery we all began to get worried so a very close inspection was done and the defect noted...but now it was too late! Corneal mapping has shown the epithelium has almost settled down again and she is now about 20/30 and 20/40 correctable to 20/20 and 20/25. As soon as the new procedure has been approved by the FDA and that is expected within a year, the doc is going to redo the Missus' eyes for free. One new plus for this new machine and technique is that the doc can carve BIFOCALS into the lenses with the new laser. We're waiting until that process is approved then she is going to get her eyes "touched up". Good luck! |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:15:22 AM EDT
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I would never get it, its not all that safe in the least, and can make you pretty much legally blind.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:17:32 AM EDT
[#19]
Get it.
I had it done four years ago and I'm better than 20/20. Best $3000 I ever spent. |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:21:05 AM EDT
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I got Lasik back in early July, and I friggin love it!
The only hard part is right after the surgery...eyes are super sensitive to light, and the itch(and of course you can't touch your eyes for like 2 weeks). I would do it again in a heartbeat...the only side effects I've had is a halo around headlights at night...and it isn't too bad...probably about as bad as I had with glasses on. Good luck, and enjoy! [EDIT]...Go with the Intralase laser cutting of the eyeflap...it's more expensive, but has a better track record for surgery, and hell...it IS your eyes afterall...better to spend a bit more to get better results on something you use all the time. ...and I went to 20/15 vision! |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:24:09 AM EDT
[#21]
I had Lasik 3 years ago. I see fine with no night driving problems. I recommend it. My Mother, and several real estate associates I know had it done with no problems.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:26:23 AM EDT
[#22]
Another happy customer here.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 9:30:23 AM EDT
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I had an initial consultation for LASIK last week with a guy who's one of the best in the nation. He's done over 30,000 microsurgeries in/around the eye and over 4,000 LASIK procedures. Most of the other LASIK surgeons in Palm Beach County go to him to get their eyes done. Anyway, he uses a laser to cut the flap rather than a metallic tool. Also, the second (lens-burning) laser is stabilised to an electonic "map" of your lens so that any small eye movement is accounted for. For this procedure, the FDA studies show 98% of patients had 20/20 or better vision after 1 year. 70% had BETTER than 20/20. It was $4900 AFTER a $1000 discount. I decided to go with daily disposable contacts instead. 
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Posted: 8/18/2005 10:07:28 AM EDT
[#24]
What is he "new" procedure called. I'm very near sighted and have toyed with LASIK, but as I pass through my mid-forties I'm starting to get far sighted. My mother in-law had LASIK where one eye is set for reading and the other for distance. I have contacts set up like this but I'm not sure if I want my eyes "carved" as such. As far as I've heard, you can 't fix far sightedness (presbyopia). If they come up with this I'd be interested.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 10:10:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Mine was the best $3500 I ever spent!
Went from 20/400 and 20/450 to 20/15, with no side effects. w00t! |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 10:15:34 AM EDT
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I will get mine done eventually. Probably within a year now. I am going to Dr Boothe. He has over 68,000 procedures under his belt (most experienced in the world), was a cornea surgeon, and he is local. My cousin went there with AWFUL SHITTY vision, and ended up with 20/10.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 10:19:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2005 10:20:16 AM EDT
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You are going to die on the operating chair.
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Posted: 8/18/2005 11:40:30 AM EDT
[#29]
my eyes hurt now...
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Posted: 8/18/2005 11:44:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Do whatever you have to do to get the cash. LASIK is worth it and you won't regret it. |
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:11:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2005 7:16:42 PM EDT
[#32]
I had it done 3 yrs ago and still see 20/15 in both eyes. Made for getting used to shooting with iron sights a bit weird.
The itching drove me crazy for about 2 weeks. But I kept my eyes flooded with the steriod drops the doc gave me. That helped with the itching. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 12:48:26 AM EDT
[#33]
+1 going on 4 years now
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Posted: 8/19/2005 3:36:35 AM EDT
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Dr. Updegraff ? He did mine in early Aug this year. I love it. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 6:35:08 AM EDT
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Katzen: www.katzeneyecare.com Where are you located? |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 7:05:59 AM EDT
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Smitty, I believe what they are referring to is Wavefront PRK/LASIK. The doc uses the "Wavefront technology" to take a picture of your entire ocular system and the data is loaded into the laser and it corrects your eye accordingly. It's like using a RADAR map of your eye to get an individualized and highly accurate correction. FYI, PRK is the best long-term option. You have a significantly better chance of seeing 20/20 or better than with LASIK, and the eye doesn't have to be cut. The down side is that the initial recovery period is quite painful and it literally takes months to fully recover. My vision fluxuated for all of 3 months and I had other issues like halos during the healing period, but I see 20/10 in both eyes now after Wavefront PRK. I saw about 20/200 and corrected to 20/15 with lenses before surgery . I have slightly improved night vision since surgery. Bear in mind that the procedure is one of the worst things I have ever endured. Not because it was painful (it wasn't), but because it was freaking me out. Having the top layer of your eye scrubbed off with a brillo pad and alcohol and seeing/smelling the "smoke" coming off your eyeball while your eye lid is locked open with a wire really sucks. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 7:49:02 AM EDT
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I'm back ... damn glad I took the bralle for begginers class...
Actually, eyes feel good as ever. This morning's visit shows 20/20 in left eye and 20/30 in right. Right eye still has some swelling and he expects that my 1 week check-up will have berrer then 20/20 for both eyes. Originally had 20/40 both eyes but horrible astigmatisms that resulted in coke bottle glasses. I'm reading and writing without them right noe. So I'm happy. To all those people who say the surgery is a snap ... you lie. That was the creepiest experiance of my life. I do not like things touching my eyeball and having my eyes dilated then being told "stare into this bright light while we apply a suction to your eyeball." I'll check in again tonight to note any improvement. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:33:39 AM EDT
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RictusGrin, How long did it take for everything to settle out? Your description of the surgury is freaking me out!
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Posted: 8/19/2005 8:36:55 AM EDT
[#39]
You won't feel a thing.
 
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Posted: 8/19/2005 9:08:05 AM EDT
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Man, the doc gave me a big speech about how perfect I was for surgery during my consultation. He said I was the perfect statistical average and a great subject for a control group, etc. I thought he was just being a good salesman and tells everyone the same thing. I didn'y buy it, but I wanted the surgery. I saw 20/20 in both eyes the day after surgery, and he told me I was aboit 1 in 50 who dod so well. However, my vision fluctuated wildly during the healing process. My right eye settled down after about 2 weeks and was 20/20 or better from then on. My left eye was in and out for 3 months. Sometimes I would be seeing 20/20 in my left and in a matter of seconds it would fade to what seemed like pre-correction "crap vision" for a week. Then it would come back. My last noticeable problem with my left eye came right on the 3 month mark post-surgery. The first 2 weeks I had halos around lights at night that kept me from seeing well enough to safely drive, and my eyes were very light sensitive for a week. I am talking light sensitive like having a blanket wrapped around your head in a dark room and just thinking of a light bulb and feeling like I was on fire. Seriously, it was that bad. I had cloudy vision from time to time, but not often, in both eyes during the 3 months and I spent about a month using eyedrops every 30 min. to 1 hour for dryness in both eyes. Keep in mind that this all ended several months ago and now I can see around corners and through walls, even in the dark! Dude, the procedure sucks. There was a lady ahead of me for surgery that day and just as I swallowed my sedative she cancelled. They put me in her place and I was pinging, as the sedative had not kicked in! I felt sedated afterward, though. There was no pain at all during the procedure, but the "creepiness" factor was through the roof. Some woman was lying across my legs while the doc worked on my eyes. The discomfort and sensitivity to light started about a half-hour after surgery. Boy, was it worth it, though! I would do it again in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 9:18:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Tacberry, glad to hear you survived. :) Keep us posted.
--Mike |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 9:20:52 AM EDT
[#42]
Sounds like you got a bonus.
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Posted: 8/19/2005 9:24:41 AM EDT
[#43]
Rictus, Thanks for the info. I'm with ya on the creepiness factor. I also did some research and found out I confused farsightedness with presbyopia. Apparently even with the surgery I'll probably need reading glasses anyway. I still think it would be worth it though. I can't see clearly past the end of my nose and although I've had glasses most of ny life, it's now starting to get old for some reason. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 9:56:54 AM EDT
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I had Zyoptic laser surgery done in Can. They have been doing it for years......as far as I know it hasnt been approved here yet. No cutting involved......... 20/15 2+ years. Cost about $2500
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Posted: 8/19/2005 5:28:59 PM EDT
[#45]
Creepy is the best description there is of the procedure.
I hope I don't need any type of correction from here. Getting late, I'm off to drop my eyes. |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 5:46:37 PM EDT
[#46]
so How'D iT gO? |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 6:02:05 PM EDT
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I was 20/400 and had my procedure done in Aug 01 and I am now 20/12, at 41 years of age. The doc that did mine had done over 12,000 surguries before he did mine, and I don't regret it one second!!! Let us know how your procedure goes, and follow all the instructions the doc gives you. The freakiest part was when they made the first cut for the flap, doc said things would go grey, well they went black for what seemed like an hr. I was expecting to hear the doc say "DHUP"!!!!!!!!!!!! I do have a slight halo problem and my eyes are sensitive to light, but I wore photogrey lenes for 30 years, and I have an excuse to buy Oakley shades now!!! |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 6:08:34 PM EDT
[#48]
AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/19/2005 6:24:00 PM EDT
[#49]
that's not actually from Lasik. That's probably from a transplant operation. In any case, I want a range report! 
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Posted: 8/19/2005 6:24:08 PM EDT
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i had mine done bout 4 years go..
here's what they did.. they deaden your eyes, then brace then open with a thing like from clockwork orange then put a metal thing on your eye.. and you cant see then they put a saw on the metal thing and it runs a track and cuts a u. they pull the flap then they lazer. first one eye then the other. i am a baby.. doc gave me a script for some half-az pain meds.. i told the doc.. no way give me hydrocodone (vicodin .. one of rush's favs (used to be a pharmacist.. no more about drugs than most docs)).. no real pain .. but a lot of irratation. i had to go back for a touch up after some number of weeks. between that time i had glasses made to correct the correction. i used to wear coke bottles. now i can see perferct in one eye and need very slight correction for the other.. for me it was worth it but if i had known the procedure i would perhaps have bailed.. i asked the doc should i get some valiums or whatever. he said no... but that or some quaaludes (cant get them anymore ....... perhaps a 6 pack of malt liquor would have sufficed) would have helped me through the session.. for me it was great. i like to ski. and do stuff in the rain. my glasses always fogged or got wet and were thick... the procedure has improved since the when i had it done. your taking a chance.. sure but for most people it is worth it... |
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