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Posted: 10/25/2004 10:33:42 AM EST
Ok... this is my next project, a 2 MOA 1,000 yard gun.

My idea thus far:

AI Stock
Remington 700 action in .300 WinMag
Good barrel, krieger or douglas (?)

thoughts, suggestions, discussion
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:34:46 AM EST
.50 bmg!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:36:36 AM EST
id go kreiger
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:37:30 AM EST
why not splurge and get a Lilja?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:37:44 AM EST
.338 Lapua.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:46:07 AM EST
Suggestions:

1. Douglas, Hart, Lilja, Mike Rock. All are good.

2. .308 caliber, so you can shoot it enough to get real good, and it won't hurt you.

3. Have someone build it that knows what they are doing.

4. Good base and glass.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:47:28 AM EST
+1 for a Krieger barrel
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:48:22 AM EST
I know someone in Austin who is expert in building super accurate rifles as you described, if you're interested.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:50:08 AM EST
My suggestion: look at what the Long Range NRA competition shooters use.

I would expect a good choice in bore diameter would be 6.5 mm or 7 mm, with a decent poweder capacity behing it . . . one downside would be relatively short barrel life.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:56:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 10:59:00 AM EST by Wraith]

Originally Posted By JarheadChiro:
.338 Lapua.



.338-.300 RUM (.300 RUM necked up to .338) Almost the ballistic equivalent of the .338 Lapua with easy to find brass at a more reasonable price.
On edit, if just for paper punching, 6mm Norma BR. I believe it still holds the record group at 1000 yards.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 10:59:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By JarheadChiro:
.338 Lapua.





Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:02:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/25/2004 11:04:07 AM EST by shootr]
.338 Lapua. Getting 2 MOA @ 1k yds won't be easy, though. Even the bullet itself may not have that kind of inherant accuracy capability.

You'll definately want a Dan Lilja barrel.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:05:19 AM EST
Jewell trigger.

Glass bed the action (I know the McMilliain stocks are good to go as is, but glass bed it to really snug it up)

Action trued.

Badger Ordinance bases and rings.

Just about any of the Leupold tactical scopes.

Most importantly, learn how to reload properly for the sucka.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:14:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By peekay:
Ok... this is my next project, a 2 MOA 1,000 yard gun.

My idea thus far:

AI Stock
Remington 700 action in .300 WinMag
Good barrel, krieger or douglas (?)

thoughts, suggestions, discussion



For paper or critters? This makes a diffrence..
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:22:06 AM EST

Just build/buy a 50 cal if you really want to punch something at 1k+ yards.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:22:21 AM EST
Why would you spec such a low requirement for accuracy (2 MOA)? Why not a super-accurate rifle? I think the world record group at 1,000 yards is only a few inches (~2"). 2 MOA is a 20" group at 1,000 yards.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:35:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mike_Mills:
Why would you spec such a low requirement for accuracy (2 MOA)? Why not a super-accurate rifle? I think the world record group at 1,000 yards is only a few inches (~2"). 2 MOA is a 20" group at 1,000 yards.


I think he meant 2" @ 1000yds
any hunting rifle can do 2moa
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:37:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By peekay:
Ok... this is my next project, a 2 MOA 1,000 yard gun.

My idea thus far:

AI Stock
Remington 700 action in .300 WinMag
Good barrel, krieger or douglas (?)

thoughts, suggestions, discussion



Lurk around snipercountry.com. Read the reviews, archives, and articles. That will give you an idea what works and what doesn't. If you don't have a lot of experience with long range shooting, 300 win mag is not your best choice to start out with. You won't want to be shooting 100 or 200 practice shots a weekend with 300wm. .308 is a much better choice for several reasons, including that you can start with a mildly modified stock gun and then sell it to upgrade.

Titanium DevCon is one of the prefered choices for bedding these days.

I shoot a bone stock VS remington with the factory H&S precision stock. It gets out to 600 with excellent results. I have a LR tactical Leupold on Leupold tactical rings and bases. Beyond that range, velocity changes caused by the rough factory barrel with probably make my rifle string vertically as it copper fouls.

I get to shoot at a steel silhouette range from 200 M to 500M and that rifle can knock down some steel.

If you want something off the shelf that is more high end, try out Robar. Also check out precisionarms.com
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 11:40:25 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 12:00:15 PM EST
2 moa @ 1000 yards is 20"

Why not go for a 1 MOA gun....?
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 1:58:32 PM EST
Check out this link to see what 1000 yd benchrest guys shoot. www.pa1000yard.com/schedule.html. If you click on "match result " you'll see what they were shooting and what their group size was. A friend of mine and I were there last month to shoot. We were shooting at clay birds at 1036 yds. It was wild !
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 2:54:25 PM EST
These guys know a bit about long range and firearms. Check out their forums.

www.benchrest.com/
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 3:05:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By JarheadChiro:
.338 Lapua.

Link Posted: 10/25/2004 3:12:56 PM EST
How about one of these:



That'll do MOA..... 2 MOA at 1000 wouldn't be TOO hard. And that's with iron sights.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 5:26:18 PM EST
I would go with a sleeved trued 700 action. With shims on the bolt.
Lilja or Kreiger barrel about the same price
20 moa mount w Badger Rings
Nightforce 5.5-22x56 NXS scope
Laminated Bench rest stock from Richardson microfit. Beaded with Devcon Steel /Tiatinum putty.
Jewel trigger.
Chambered for 6.5-284
Lapua brass and 107 gr VLD bullets

This with practice would make you a hell of a 1000 yard gun.


Link Posted: 10/25/2004 7:22:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By peekay:
Ok... this is my next project, a 2 MOA 1,000 yard gun.

My idea thus far:

AI Stock
Remington 700 action in .300 WinMag
Good barrel, krieger or douglas (?)

thoughts, suggestions, discussion



Oh I thought you ment the whole gun was 1000 yards. I was gona say.
Link Posted: 10/25/2004 7:26:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By JarheadChiro:
.338 Lapua.



I agree. It does in fact fit the bill, Bill.
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