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Posted: 7/17/2001 3:24:53 PM EDT
Greetings Folks! Our ever so vigilent government pencil neck d*cks over at the FBI seem to have a slight problem..namely they seem to be ...uhh...how shall I put it.."missing" a few items...184 Computers, 450 missing Weapons.. see [url]http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010717/ts/fbi_missing_computers.html[/url] In all fairness.."13 computers" are believed to be "stolen" (the rest are.."missing"), while 184 weapons were believed to be "stolen" while the remaining 264 weapons seem to be have been misplaced. Sounds like to me that they are (a.) trying to one up our friends at the ATF (aka. "F-Troop") when it comes to competency..or (b.) maybe they need to review their hiring procedures since they seem to be recruiting criminals to be "Eff - Bee- Eye" agents.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:34:27 PM EDT
Ah our ever so competent security forces. From the ABC message board.
Only Cops should have guns 3:52PM PDT, Jul 17, 2001 Breaking news: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/fbi010717.html The FBI just LOST 449 guns. . . . Yup. . . I trust them with guns.
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Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:46:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Ah our ever so competent security forces. From the ABC message board.
Only Cops should have guns 3:52PM PDT, Jul 17, 2001 Breaking news: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/fbi010717.html The FBI just LOST 449 guns. . . . Yup. . . I trust them with guns.
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Some people are just plain stupid.... to trust an organization who loses their own equipment. Aren't they the ones who do the background checks????
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:53:03 PM EDT
And that is in Washington D.C. Where the Citizens are not allowed to own guns.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:56:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:00:50 PM EDT
Damned!! I bought a S&W 1076 from KY Imports. Those are FBI guns right?
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:26:04 PM EDT
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Now we know why there are so many illegal guns on the streets! Just between the two agencies reported in that story it adds up to 725 missing guns! I wonder how high the # would be if an accounting was done of all local, state & federal agencies????
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:54:19 PM EDT
In that news report they also said there was at least one case where one of the weapons had been used in a criminal offense. Can I sue them for stupidity. F amous B ut I ncompetent
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 5:01:14 PM EDT
Hey, did they loose any of the Springfield .45's? I want one of those...[):)]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 5:04:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 5:05:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By jadams951: In that news report they also said there was at least one case where one of the weapons had been used in a criminal offense. Can I sue them for stupidity. F amous B ut I ncompetent
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Actually I'd have to know what KIND of gun it was before I would get mad over them loosing evidence. Think about it, what if it was a nice Singer or North American 1911? Once it has been used in trial, its only going to get smelted down, what would you do if you were in the FBI lab, and had the power to make it disappear?
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Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:36:10 PM EDT
According to the Communist News Network, one of the laptops had classified data on it...wonder who the last registered owner was hmmmm... or is there yet another spy in the FBI
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 8:00:31 PM EDT
screw the worn out smooth-bore guns, which one of you guys I send the check to, to start scanning the hard drives of those PCs for my name? [:D]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 8:04:21 PM EDT
Let a FFL lose one gun from his inventory and they would put him in jail. Maybe the FBI needs to go spank themselves!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 10:08:26 PM EDT
Fucking Brainless Idiot and who the hell puts classified data on a LAPTOP!
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 1:57:02 AM EDT
Thank God they disabled those training weapons by removing the firing pins. That should be the official DEWAT and foreign import stratgy.
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 6:21:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By erickm: screw the worn out smooth-bore guns
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don't forget fire-damaged too.
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 6:27:11 AM EDT
Some of the weapons missing are reported to be submachine guns. OPPS!
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 8:46:17 AM EDT
This happened on Klintons watch, another example of how character in a presidential candidate does matter, he set the tone of his corrupt administration now we see the fruits of it. Lack of character at the top negatively affects people and their standards all the way through a organization, always has and always will. World Class screw up, what a shame. Someone fly the Flag upside down over their. Socialism ruins even the best.
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 1:15:13 PM EDT
Senate Judiciary Comittee ripped the FBI this morning.
Senators Decry Loss of FBI Equipment By Deborah Zabarenko Reuters WASHINGTON (July 18) - The FBI got a bipartisan drubbing on Wednesday from the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, a day after the agency announced that 449 of its weapons and 184 of its laptop computers were stolen or lost. FBI officials said at least one and possibly four of the missing computers contained classified information. The misplaced weapons ranged from pistols to sub-machine guns and one stolen firearm was used in a homicide, they added. The relatively small number of misplaced materials over 11 years belies a larger problem, said committee chairman Sen. Patrick Leahy. ''What bothers me is that some of the computers were supposed to be containing classified information and you would think after the total fiasco of the FBI's handling of the (Robert) Hanssen matter, they would learn from this matter,'' said Leahy, a Vermont Democrat. The Hanssen case, in which an FBI veteran spied for Russia, undetected, for some 15 years, was in the judicial process as the FBI disclosed it had not turned over thousands of pages of documents to defense lawyers in the Oklahoma City bombing case of Timothy McVeigh. Leahy and others in Congress also noted with displeasure the FBI's handling of the case involving Los Alamos scientist Wen Ho Lee, who after months of investigation pleaded guilty to a single felony count of mishandling nuclear data, and the fatal law enforcement shootouts in Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge, Idaho.
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Link Posted: 7/18/2001 1:17:23 PM EDT
U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, who on Tuesday ordered a Justice Department review of the FBI over the missing weapons and computers, called the situation ''serious'' at a news conference on Wednesday. Ashcroft, who has oversight responsibility for the FBI, declined to speculate whether the missing guns and laptop computers were symptomatic of a larger problem at the agency. But Leahy, who chairs the Judiciary Committee, took aim at what he saw as systemic problems at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. ''A perception that credible allegations of misconduct are being whitewashed, or that a double standard of discipline is being applied in which senior supervisors get lighter punishment than line agents for the same offenses will erode public confidence and demoralize the agency's own employees,'' Leahy said. 'GOOD OLD BOY' NETWORK Leahy said a ''good old boy'' network protected entrenched FBI bureaucrats, went ''by the book'' when punishing lower-level agents and worked to discourage critics inside the agency. Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, the committee's ranking Republican, commended departing FBI Director Louis Freeh but criticized the agency's latest gaffe as ''simply inexcusable.'' ''Lax administrative controls over sensitive materials like these cannot be tolerated,'' Hatch said. He and others looked to Robert Mueller, whom President Bush's formally nominated on Wednesday to head the FBI, to improve performance. Mueller has to be confirmed by the Senate before taking over from Freeh. Sen. Richard Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, said there was a ''wall between the Justice Department and the FBI'' that hindered communication and investigation, and that FBI officials often tried to gloss over problems with ''a nod of a head and a furrowed brow'' -- but little action. Beyond management problems, technical difficulties loom large at the FBI, according to the agency's assistant director for information resources, Bob Dies. ''It's really a nightmare to come in from the outside to help them,'' said Dies, a 30-year IBM veteran who came to the FBI a year ago. More than half the agency's desktop computers, about 13,000, are four to eight years old, Dies said, and many lack such standard features as a point-and-click mouse. There has been no meaningful improvement in FBI information technology for over six years, which means agents cannot electronically store material such as photographs, graphical and tabular data on investigative databases, Dies said. In the U.S. House of Representatives, Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican, said the missing laptops and guns show the need for a special Justice Department inspector general solely for the FBI. ''Large FBI foul-ups used to be extraordinary events, yet now they appear to be deteriorating into regular occurrences,'' Sensenbrenner said in a statement. Reuter 16:23 07-18-01
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Four computers with sensitive data now? And one of the missing weapons already used to commit a murder- not simply missing from evidence as I previously thought. These are all duty guns, not seizures.
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