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Posted: 12/6/2008 7:41:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2008 7:33:28 AM EDT by ModernDayIsraelite]
Like the title says, they came home with largely dilated pupils. I have no experience with alcohol, drugs or anything like that. I have never been around anybody who does either.

Anybody know what some of the potential causes could be?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:41:56 PM EDT
Pot
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:01 PM EDT
Roofies?

Are they 'out of it' or very tired?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:12 PM EDT
LSD?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:25 PM EDT
Need more information for a differential diagnosis
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:25 PM EDT
Are the sleep deprived or have they been in the dark for a long time? If not and light isn't affecting them they be on something bad.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:35 PM EDT
Ask them if they've been using drugs.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:41 PM EDT
infected with rage.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:42:54 PM EDT
Its probably safe to rule out a visit to the optometrist.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:43:12 PM EDT
I suspect LSD
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:43:37 PM EDT
pot, mushrooms, pills, take your pick
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:43:40 PM EDT
The dark.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:43:43 PM EDT
My parents thought the same thing when I skipped the Boy Scout meeting and spent the entire night outside in the dark.

Could be something, could be nothing.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:43:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
Need more information for a differential diagnosis


House for the win!
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:43:59 PM EDT
Lupus?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:44:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mustachioed_Mavrick:
Its probably safe to rule out a visit to the optometrist.







Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:44:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ARLocknload:
I suspect LSD


Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:44:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:52:22 PM EDT by SlurpeeAkbar]
DUDE It's speed (meth) I've seen it a million times.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:44:31 PM EDT
maybe they went to the optometrist and got their eyes checked...
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:44:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:46:30 PM EDT by DragoMuseveni]
Mydriasis is an excessive dilation of the pupil due to disease, trauma or drugs

Anything from opiates to Antihistamines to some antidepressants.

Many other drugs such as amphetamines and psychedelic drugs (LSD, psychedelic mushrooms, salvia divinorum, mescaline, and MDMA) are also known to cause mydriasis.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:44:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By xaaronx:
infected with rage.


This.

Beat them to death as quickly as possible. Don't get any blood in your mouth or eyes.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:45:01 PM EDT
Drug test ASAP
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:45:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:46:18 PM EDT by DzlBenz]
Originally Posted By Steve_in_Washington:
Lupus?


It's never Lupus.

Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:45:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ModernDayIsraelite:
Like the title says, they came home with largely dilated pupils. I have no experience with alcohol, drugs or anything like that. I have never been around anybody who does either.

Anybody know what some of the potential causes could be?


Do their clothes smell like a prairie fire?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:45:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mustachioed_Mavrick:
Its probably safe to rule out a visit to the optometrist.


Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:45:40 PM EDT
Ecstasy, adderall, or any number of other drugs
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:45:44 PM EDT
Call them out on it saying you know what they are on and if they dont admit to it, the punishment will be a whole lot worse.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:46:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:46:14 PM EDT
purple drank

chuggin some cough syrup?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:46:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
Drug test ASAP


Get a snippet of hair and have it tested in about a week if you can't get a urine drop.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:46:55 PM EDT
uppers make your pupils large. downers make them small.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:47:10 PM EDT
Possibly meth.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:47:23 PM EDT
LSD....ask straight up, don't be pissed. If they say yes, tell them it is a bad choice, and you hope they choose not to do it again.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:48:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By echo459:
LSD?


This would be my guess.

Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:48:15 PM EDT
why is everyone saying LSD? Have you ever even done acid? Pot? We must have some D.A.R.E occifers in here. Pot = red eyes.




Dialated pupils? I'd suspect pain pills (opiates)



If you still think its pot, offer her some cookies. If it was acid, shed be smart enough NOT to go home and risk encountering a parent. Shit is powerful
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:48:20 PM EDT
drugs, concussions and stress can cause that, but both of them at the same time? Either they got into a car accident or they were both doing drugs. I vote the latter.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:48:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:50:51 PM EDT by Tekka]
Originally Posted By SlurpeeAkbar:
DUDE It's speed (meth) I've seen a million times.


You know, that reminds me of somebody. There was this slightly retarded friend that a bunch of my friends had. He apparently went downhill after he married some druggie chick who convinced him to go to gay clubs with her. After that he disappeared for a long time. Then when started showing back up in our lives again, his eyes were ALWAYS disturbingly super dialated and his teeth had rotted out of his head. He also became extremely skinny and never slept. o_O Meth is a very real possibility...
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:49:26 PM EDT
Cocaine!

You didnt notice any change in behavior? That would be the most obvious...
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:49:29 PM EDT
Ecstacy or some other hallucinogen. More light being allowed in to give a betterr sensory experience. X or LSD will be out of their system in 24 hrs unless it was cut with something like coke it might be detectable longer. Were they laughing, crying or what?

Kind of on the same topic... I guess that's a good thing with me doing virtually every drug known to man..I can spot that shit from 20 miles away. My parents were fucking idiots.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:49:46 PM EDT
They just saw 1 guy 1 cup. They'll be fine in a month.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:50:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:53:09 PM EDT by MagKnightX]
Is she acting unusual? Particularly giggly or energetic, reacting strangely to the environment, etc.? Dilation of the pupils can be caused by many drugs like LSD, MDMA/Ecstacy, amphetamines, psylocibin/magic mushrooms, and Salvia divinorum.

Since it's both of them I'd say probably not head trauma.

On the other hand, they could just have spent a lot of time in the dark and their eyes haven't adjusted yet.

You can check for normal pupil response with a penlight.

If you're seriously concerned about drugs (and it would take more evidence than one time coming home with large pupils to make me seriously concerned about drugs), you can probably get your daughter drug-tested.

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
why is everyone saying LSD? Have you ever even done acid? Pot? We must have some D.A.R.E occifers in here. Pot = red eyes.


Dialated pupils? I'd suspect pain pills (opiates)


LSD can dilate your pupils. Opioids, on the other hand, usually cause them to contract.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:51:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By USGI_45:
Cocaine!

You didnt notice any change in behavior? That would be the most obvious...


If they were on coke they wouldn't be able to shut up and their eyes would also be slightly blood shot.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:51:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:53:23 PM EDT by Tony7189]
LSD use would be very easy to determine. Get a scary mask and run in to the room screaming. If the initial shock doesn't go away in a few moments you know you just induced a bad trip.


ETA: Acid would be highly noticeable, uncontrollable smiling, fits of laughter, staring at things, odd behavior.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:52:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:53:57 PM EDT by Infallible]
Originally Posted By ARLocknload:
I suspect LSD



+another. Sounds like acid to me.
Originally Posted By SlurpeeAkbar:
DUDE It's speed (meth) I've seen it a million times.


No its not. Meth dialates your eyes to pin pricks, I too have seen it a million times.
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:52:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ModernDayIsraelite:
Like the title says, they came home with largely dilated pupils. I have no experience with alcohol, drugs or anything like that. I have never been around anybody who does either.

Anybody know what some of the potential causes could be?



pregnancy?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:53:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
LSD use would be very easy to determine. Get a scary mask and run in to the room screaming. If the initial shock doesn't go away in a few moments you know you just induced a bad trip.


That is quite possibly some of the worst advice I have ever seen given on this board. That is why I fully support it and await an AAR.

Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:53:49 PM EDT
How many that posted Acid have actually done it?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:54:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:54:39 PM EDT by VarmintKilla]
Originally Posted By wildearp:
Originally Posted By ModernDayIsraelite:
Like the title says, they came home with largely dilated pupils. I have no experience with alcohol, drugs or anything like that. I have never been around anybody who does either.

Anybody know what some of the potential causes could be?



pregnancy?


You do realize that his eyes are probably as wide and dialated as theirs are right now?
Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:54:42 PM EDT
I played around quite a bit as a young teen with drugs, done a lot of acid, a lot of pot, lots of mushrooms etc.. Acid, and mushrooms dialated my pupils. As for going home on acid.. Yes, bad idea. My mother called me to let me know my grandmother got pinned to her car by a falling tree, I ended up going to the hospital tripping my ass off, lucky for me everyone was too concerned with my grandmother to notice, that was not a good experience.


Originally Posted By DanTSX:
why is everyone saying LSD? Have you ever even done acid? Pot? We must have some D.A.R.E occifers in here. Pot = red eyes.




Dialated pupils? I'd suspect pain pills (opiates)



If you still think its pot, offer her some cookies. If it was acid, shed be smart enough NOT to go home and risk encountering a parent. Shit is powerful


Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:54:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tony7189:
How many that posted Acid have actually done it?


+12 x , IOW get the scary mask.
























Link Posted: 12/6/2008 7:55:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/6/2008 7:57:31 PM EDT by K1rodeoboater]
99% chance she's high, probably weed....simple as that. Not everyone gets red eyes when they smoke, plus eye drops can clear it up.

did she avoid contact with you when she got home, look really tired, quickly make a beeline to her room, hit up the kitchen for a snack?

Can't really say for certain that she was or wasn't doing something, I've been around enough people who do all sorts of different drugs to know what to look for.
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