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Posted: 3/15/2002 5:09:08 AM EDT
[url]http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/15/wsaud15.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/03/15/ixworld.html[/url]
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:28:09 AM EDT
While the great majority of us here are not Muslim, I'll pose this question: If you were an impartial observer (as opposed to a fireman or parent of one of the girls), and you saw the "religious police" driving the girls back into a burning building over the objections of the firemen, what caliber would you use?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:30:00 AM EDT
.308, Yes, I think, it would be .308, no doubt about it.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:32:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2002 5:33:43 AM EDT by marvl]
.308 definitely. Those people are nuts. I've often wondered, do you suppose their heads are all fried from the hot sun?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:38:19 AM EDT
It seems that Islam, next to Communism, Nazism and Socialism, is one of the other great methods of forcing subservience on the masses. Imagine, you can perpetrate almost any horror on others, and say you are doing Allah's will. In Nazism, you are doing it for your country, and in Communism and Socialism, it is "for the State or the People". But the perpetrator never has to take the blame for being evil.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:44:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AFARR: While the great majority of us here are not Muslim, I'll pose this question: If you were an impartial observer (as opposed to a fireman or parent of one of the girls), and you saw the "religious police" driving the girls back into a burning building over the objections of the firemen, what caliber would you use?
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Depends on the range. Under 50 yards I think I would go with a 12 gage, either slugs or 00 buck. Beyond that probably the .308.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:47:31 AM EDT
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or .45, up close and personal. if .308, can i use incendiary?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:11:05 AM EDT
:::sigh:::: You've all forgotten already, haven't you? Oprah says Islam is a religion of peace and love. This obviously never happened.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:11:14 AM EDT
Definately groin shot with a 45 and let nature take its course. Why couldn't they have saved them and provided the scarves, would have said a lot more about the Islamic faith.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:14:46 AM EDT
would have said a lot more about the Islamic faith.
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On the contrary...I think what they did says just about everything about the Islamic faith.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:20:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:24:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: :::sigh:::: You've all forgotten already, haven't you? Oprah says Islam is a religion of peace and love. This obviously never happened.
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Oprah can't be wrong, therefore, Islamic sponsored terrorism of the last 40 years (much longer if you're a jew) must not have happened either.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:27:05 AM EDT
Almost forgot. 308.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:29:45 AM EDT
Now, wait a minute. The Saudi's? But, but, I thought the Saudi's were are allies. You know, the good Muslims. How can this be? I thought the vast majority of Muslims were Sunni. Not like the bad Shiites, who make up only a small percentage. And isn't Saudi Arabia the most western of the Islam states? How could this happen?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:31:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:37:46 AM EDT
I think the day will come when heartless sonsabitches like those will pay the price for their actions. But, being weak as I am I hope that it's while they are still on this earth. Not judging, just wanting to send them to their judgement sooner!
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:44:08 AM EDT
22 rimfire, so I can watch them bleed and continue shooting them for countless hours of fun. Then I'd bake their heathen asses to a fine crisp and serve them to pigs.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:46:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Minman72: 22 rimfire, so I can watch them bleed and continue shooting them for countless hours of fun. Then I'd bake their heathen asses to a fine crisp and serve them to pigs.
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Knees and groin first! Be careful not to hit any major arteries or vital organs for at least 5 hours.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:54:42 AM EDT
From the article: The much-feared mutaween roam the streets of the conservative kingdom wielding sticks to enforce dress codes and sex segregation and to ensure that Islamic prayers are performed on time.
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Now, how are they gong to know if people are not praying on time, if they ARE praying on time???? Hmm.... Police[as they beat someone]: Prayers to our peaceful overlord started 30 seconds ago!!!! We are a peacful religion, as long as you do everyting on time in in step!!!! Nuke 'em..... [smoke]
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:06:09 AM EDT
I'd use whatever happened to be handy. And I'd shoot for a slow, painful death. I'd pick up those bastard's sticks, sharpen them, and while they lie there bleeding and in agony, I'd roll them over and shove those sharpened sticks up their asses until they popped out their mouths, driving it in deeper with my boot. And then I'd get really violent. I'd really prefer to use a chainsaw on them. I don't think any single article has ever made me so mad and so willing to state that I'd kill someone over his actions. Vermin. We should round up those so-called 'religious police' and transport them to the site of TheRedGoat's upcoming hog hunt (total slaughter guaranteed if the pigs show up!) and tell the guys these are pigs, too...pigs in bedsheets. Have at 'em. CJ
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:22:14 AM EDT
To A_Free_Man "it's for the children". It's interesting how fast the police got there. I think that a baseball bat would be more appropriate, longer suffering. It would have been a simple matter to cover-up the girls away from the fire.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:39:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: :::sigh:::: You've all forgotten already, haven't you? Oprah says Islam is a religion of peace and love. This obviously never happened.
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That's the first thing that came to my mind: Islam is peace and love, right? Where's the threat? Islamic theocracies and those loyal to them are the threat.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:45:56 AM EDT
Lots of 12 gauge 00 buck...fucking bastards
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:49:17 AM EDT
I really kinda like the .22 caliber idea. Except, I'd line them all up, and then let the mothers of the fallen young ladies pull the trigger..... Of course, there is also the rope, gasoline, and a match. Doesn't Allah preach and eye for an eye.......
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:51:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lurker: or .45, up close and personal. if .308, can i use incendiary?
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I say flamethrower burn there a$$es just like they did to these girls. [pyro][bounce]
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:57:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:19:08 AM EDT
But Islam is a peaceful religion. Yeah right.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:26:54 AM EDT
12 guage buckshot to the groin.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:28:04 AM EDT
lets round them up and boil them in lard.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:31:40 AM EDT
I would be observing from a B-52 above as I dropped an A-Bomb or two on their lousy heads!
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:39:02 AM EDT
AR-15 with 22lr conversion and a silencer HAHAHA But seriously: Here is the way I look at it. If these people are willing to live under these conditions then they get what they deserve. I look at it as 15 fewer females producing potential terrorists and a net gain of at least 30. Before anyone gets all riled up with the inhumanity of this statement please know the following: Of my 7 closest friends two are Muslim one is Hindu and another is Buddhist. We joke about our being the UN. I am very tolerant of the religious beliefs of others but when people are unwilling to stand up for themselves, that is on them.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:59:54 AM EDT
It's their culture. It's their religion. It's their beliefs, values and attitudes that are perpetuated and inflicted on their own citizens. Strange, huh? Too bad they just can't keep their actions within their own borders. I lived in Saudi for nine (9) years. It's VERY different there. ...but I'll ask everyone here: Are we any different from them if we start rationalizing that it's OK to "shoot, maim and kill" those who (because of their beliefs) "shoot, maim and kill" their own brethren (sisters in this case?) ~smug
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:07:55 AM EDT
I would use .223 and gut shoot them on purpose.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:12:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By smuggley: It's their culture. It's their religion. It's their beliefs, values and attitudes that are perpetuated and inflicted on their own citizens. Strange, huh? Too bad they just can't keep their actions within their own borders. I lived in Saudi for nine (9) years. It's VERY different there. ...but I'll ask everyone here: Are we any different from them if we start rationalizing that it's OK to "shoot, maim and kill" those who (because of their beliefs) "shoot, maim and kill" their own brethren (sisters in this case?) ~smug
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Hell yes it's different. These people are killing inocent people trying to save their own lives by running from a fire. Smug, Pull your head out of your ass long enough to get some oxygen to your brain.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:18:50 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:34:18 AM EDT
Let's see....from the desk of the Ministry for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice..... Vice - not wearing proper clothes. Virtue - semi-ritualistically burning those who are not wearing proper clothes. Things that make you go hrmmmm.... And someone remind me, but wasn't this the same sort of shit we heard about the Tali's a few months ago? I seem to recall something slightly similar.
[i]IBIAFR writes:[/i] But seriously: Here is the way I look at it. If these people are willing to live under these conditions then they get what they deserve.
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I can respect some of the sentiment, but at the same time, one can say we are getting exactly what we deserve. We seem to be willing to watch people have their livelyhood ruined, their families shattered, and even their lives taken over unconsitituional laws regarding pieces of metal. We continue to let it happen, so we must deserve it, then.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:35:33 AM EDT
Thank you for your kind words, HalfCocked. The police did NOT see the girls as "innocent." The rational impulse to help the girls during the emergency was overshadowed by their ingrained beliefs. It's a sad event, I agree. I'm not condoning the police's actions. It's inhumane what they did. The point I'm trying to make is that the prevailing attitude here on the msg board is that the appropriate solution is to kill the police dudes who did that. Would that really solve anything? Other than that satisfying feeling of slaking the bloodlust? ~smug (Flame shield up)
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:43:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Minman72: 22 rimfire, so I can watch them bleed and continue shooting them for countless hours of fun. Then I'd bake their heathen asses to a fine crisp and serve them to pigs.
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I like that, hours of fun.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 10:37:22 AM EDT
Now that I have a few answers--I'll give my own: If it is possible, I would use a Tranquilizer rifle. Upon letting the young girls out of the building, I would promptly perform a sex change operation on the members of the "Religious Police". When they wake up after the surgery, they can see what it feels like to be a female in their society. Barring the Trank gun, a 12 ga. will do the same thing, only a little messier.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 10:56:02 AM EDT
9divdoc, could you post the orignal article from the Saudi Gazette? I couldn't find the article that the "Telegraph UK" was quoting. I did find an article in the Saudi Gazette about the fire. But nothing about the "religious police" driving girls back into the building to die. What really happened? DaMan
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 11:10:20 AM EDT
Goes back to that age old saying "Religion is rediculous."
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 11:37:49 AM EDT
Shawn Hennedy, just quoted the same sources. But the "quoted" orignal source has no mention of this! Is this DIS-information?!!! DaMan
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 11:50:42 AM EDT
Personally for me, I am wondering where are all those humantarian/human rights groups such as Amnesty International, and their condemnation of this outrageous and brutal act against humanity, their silence is defeaning. Usually those folks would be coming out of the woodworks.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 12:00:01 PM EDT
Given that my goal would be to facilitate extraction of the children from the burning building, torturous body plinking witha .22 is not an option. 12 Gauge #4 shot. From the full-auto Saiga, if I could get one. Better to have the kids alive in the first place than to scheme about retribution.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 12:17:55 PM EDT
Those religeous police did the right thing. I am sure they would rather starve to death than eat pork. Better for those girls to burn up in a fire than sin against Allah by going out in public half naked. (Yes, showing more than your eyes is like being naked). It is their duty to ensure that Allah is not disrespected. They were just following the law and doing their jobs.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 2:17:25 PM EDT
[b]Saudi media and families of the victims have been angry over the deaths of the girls in the fire that gutted the school.[/b] Angry? I'd be going to war.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 2:28:35 PM EDT
i thought islam was that peaceful religon?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 2:37:59 PM EDT
Perhaps this will be the catalyst to open some more minds up to the reality that ISLAM SUCKS. That is if the major US news carries it at all, which I seriously doubt. I printed and copied and posted for many eyes to see. If Mohammed was a prophet, why did he not know Jesus was Christ? Lebrew
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 2:39:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DaMan: 9divdoc, could you post the orignal article from the Saudi Gazette? I couldn't find the article that the "Telegraph UK" was quoting. I did find an article in the Saudi Gazette about the fire. But nothing about the "religious police" driving girls back into the building to die. What really happened? DaMan
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Link Posted: 3/15/2002 2:57:03 PM EDT
The solution to this problem already exists. It's called Operation Anaconda.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:34:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DaMan: 9divdoc, could you post the orignal article from the Saudi Gazette? I couldn't find the article that the "Telegraph UK" was quoting. I found an article in the Saudi Gazette about the fire. But nothing about the "religious police" driving girls back into the building to die. What really happened? DaMan
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