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Posted: 9/23/2005 9:16:40 PM EDT
This is one FUN little car...
Bought it with a seized engine. Found a low mileage replacement motor for it in June and been tweaking it ever since. Exactly 1 month ago the car went 12.83 @ 105mph Wed night at Cecil County Dragway it went 12.36 @ 111.99 mph on the first pass, 12.25 @ 112 mph on the second pass, and 11.15 @ 121 mph on the third pass when I used the Nitrous Oxide.  The car is comfortable to drive, gets 25mpg, and blends in with everyday traffic...       |
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:32:18 AM EDT
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DAMN!I've been thinking of picking one up for a project myself.Except,I've got so many projects laying around,either unstarted,or half-finished.There's a guy that runs here at MIR,in the 10s on 10" tires.Haven't been to Cecil in a LONG time.Take care,Dave
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Posted: 9/24/2005 12:23:00 PM EDT
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So how's the learning curve of computers and turbos for a big inch kinda guy?
Sweet ride, I need one too 
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Posted: 9/24/2005 12:33:15 PM EDT
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The one thing I've learned is that they respond extremely well to very small improvements...
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Posted: 9/24/2005 3:43:50 PM EDT
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What kind of engine do those GNs have? I don't see them very much.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:41:36 PM EDT
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3.8 Liter (231cu) V6 with a turbocharger. In 1986/87 they were the fastest US production cars made. According to: www.race-cars.net/calculators/horsepower_calculator.html "Your T-type weighs about 3630 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 11.15 seconds. That means that you've got about 517.57 HP at the wheels, and about 672.84 HP at the flywheel". |
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:43:00 PM EDT
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A 3.8 liter (231 cu) V6 with a turbo. so Art..have you ordered a bigger hair dryer yet? 
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:44:57 PM EDT
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I miss those GM RWD coupes. I had a nice 77 Cutlass till the fuckers stole it
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:48:59 PM EDT
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Yup, the stocker was off of it two weeks ago. It only ran 12.80's with that turbo.  I have a TE62 on it now... With more engine work (internal) that should take me down into the 10's without nitrous. |
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Posted: 9/24/2005 5:52:18 PM EDT
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Are you going to cage it or just run it till you get booted off the track after your first pass?
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Posted: 9/24/2005 6:00:59 PM EDT
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I REALLY don't want to cut the car up and make it into a race car... I like the "sleeper" look. My days of climbing over roll bars is nearing an end. BTW... Just came home with another 2nd Gen Camaro tonight... My kid brother bought another project car... Guess who's project it REALLY is ? We bought it from a 16yr old kid for $3k, with a mild sbc in it. Upon close inspection, it appears that the car is an original 1970 Big Block 4-speed car... 
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Posted: 9/24/2005 6:46:36 PM EDT
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I like it, I really do, so don't get me wrong...
It is a v-6, and I am a mopar guy. I love the power it gets from the turbo though  , I think I will try turboing my 318 in my Charger.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 7:01:27 PM EDT
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Nice job man. Those turbo buicks respond to mods real well
Ho wmuch boost were you running on the 11 second pass? What octane fuel? Did you run that on the drag radials in your pics? 60' times? Have fun with the Camaro. I just sold a 70' Z28 with a 454 in it a while back. Try nastyz28.com. Best second gen forum around.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:09:58 PM EDT
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Nice. Thats so inviting............I bet you get lots of action on the street.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 6:43:04 AM EDT
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Nice car Dragracer_Art, even nicer after you did your magic on it. A big block Gen-2 Camaro is right up your alley too, LOL, I guess you inherit that project by default.
Buick Regal T-Type's always make a good sleeper, although they are essentially the same car as a GN, many a fool will dismiss a T-Type because it's not black. Time to smoke some fools then, and of course, some rice.  Very good time and trap speed improvements too, great job and you only just begun. |
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:28:31 AM EDT
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what are you..the Pied Piper of big block camaro's?
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Posted: 9/25/2005 12:58:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2005 8:04:11 PM EDT
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I only paid a little over 3 grand for my 70' Z28 w/ the BBC in it. Sold it for 7 grand and it still needed a bunch of body work. I did rebuild the tranny and get it running a WHOLE lot better though
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Posted: 9/27/2005 10:54:04 AM EDT
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Sweet ride!
No burnout pics? What gives?
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Posted: 9/27/2005 10:58:45 AM EDT
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Nice....why is the backend so far up in the air? I don't see traction bars or anything...
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Posted: 9/27/2005 3:00:03 PM EDT
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Looks like it's sitting normal to me. Maybe the angle makes it looked jacked up. |
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Posted: 9/27/2005 3:56:42 PM EDT
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think back to the '80's dude, those are 15 inch wheels and tires on a passenger car. You've seen too many ricers with torched springs...
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Posted: 9/27/2005 4:14:37 PM EDT
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It's just the camera angle... Pics from the front make it look droopy in the back...
The car actually sits almost perfectly level. Just a tad high in the rear with an empty tank of gas, just a tad low with a full tank. |
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Posted: 9/27/2005 4:15:55 PM EDT
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Very nice ride. The 3.8 SFI Turbo is what got me into turbo cars. If I could afford to do one for as cheap as I am getting away with my omni, I would do it in a second.
I too would like to know the boost, and octane. |
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Posted: 9/27/2005 4:27:13 PM EDT
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25psi boost / 112 octane race fuel / 100 shot of nitrous = 11.15 @ 121
w/o nitrous it went 12.25 @ 112mph on race gas and 25psi. Car has a bigger turbo, good computer chip, good fuel pump, and good injectors... Everything else is pretty much bone stock. The motor is stock and untouched, the trans is untouched, and the chassis is untouched except for an airbag in the right rear spring. I've got no more than $6k into the car as it sits.  $3500 for the car $1500 for the motor $500 for the turbo (used TE62) $500 in misc stuff. (including nitrous and sticky tires) Edit to add: Prolly another $500 to fix my broken turbo, and another $500 for a 3.5" stainless racing downpipe. That should put the car in the high 11's w/o nitrous, and into the 10's with it. 
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Posted: 9/27/2005 4:38:10 PM EDT
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6K???
 I think I need to sell my 440 duster..... |
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Posted: 9/27/2005 5:31:15 PM EDT
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Yep, I see it now. My bad......looked too quickly. |
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Posted: 9/27/2005 9:38:16 PM EDT
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Damn man a nice T type for $3500!!! Where can I get one?
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Posted: 9/28/2005 10:17:04 AM EDT
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Did you have to strenghten the engine or anything. I had a 92 Olds Cutlass Cruiser with the 231CID V6, it spun a bearing, and broke the shaft for the distributor that is run by the cam.
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Posted: 9/28/2005 12:59:57 PM EDT
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I paid 10K for my IROC. It was a trade off because I could have bought one for around $3500 and did a bunch of work to it myself. Rebuild a 350 I have,swap it in,etc,etc. The one I bought had a lot of things done to it I wanted to do and the biggest bonus was..it is a Florida car originally and has no rust. That was worth the difference to me. That is the biggest determining factor around here when it comes to buying a car. Southern US cars go for decent coin up here. |
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Posted: 9/28/2005 4:42:33 PM EDT
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I liked those cars a lot. So quiet. I drove a friends once and it did 12.56 1/4. the only mods were more air in(ram air dam) and more air out(better pipes and headers) and computer stuff. BONE STOCK THESE CARS ARE ZERO TO SIXTY IN 6 SEC EVEN AND 14.2 1/4 MILE. The problem in N.Y. is everyone says they didn't drive it in the winter time and then I went to look at 10 one summer and every one had rust under it or in the trunk. So I never bought one. Now everyone thinks they are worth $20,000 with 100,000 miles. So it looks like I will never get one. I'm not paying that much money. Thats a great find and good luck down the 1/4 mile.
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Posted: 9/29/2005 6:31:45 AM EDT
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What did that turbo eat to break off the fins on the turbine wheel? THat is a downer, as the turbine wheels are about 200 bucks or so to replace. At least you can do it yourself if you want to save some good money.
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Posted: 9/29/2005 6:38:03 AM EDT
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That is hella fast and very nice car. Sleeper unless you know what it is
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Posted: 9/29/2005 4:23:15 PM EDT
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Art , you might like this Cummins powered Ford F350 crew cab that weighs 7500 pounds running
11.42 118mph. http://www.wanzekracing.com/Videos/F350Run.wmv |
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Posted: 9/29/2005 5:57:37 PM EDT
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Isnt boost great? |
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Posted: 9/30/2005 10:58:42 AM EDT
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Make sure you get it balanced! `Nice car. Definitely a sleeper. I've ALWAYS wanted one of those. There's a couple local guys who have GN/T types. I love the interior. They're so '70s... Jason |
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Posted: 9/30/2005 6:47:53 PM EDT
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No kidding. Nothing like having the work and money go down the drain in a couple thousand miles. Unless you get super lucky of course. |
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Posted: 9/30/2005 7:02:54 PM EDT
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Already shipped the turbo back to Limit Engineering. (That's who first built it.)
Just waiting for a call from them with an estimate. I'm expecting it to be $500-$600. I believe the fins broke as a result of thermal fatigue. I recently learned of a lean fuel problem, that was compounded when I used the nitrous. Now that I have the fuel problem identified and under control, I will be able to run it a little harder. I have no doubt there is a 10-sec timeslip in this thing as it sits. 
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