
Posted: 9/22/2001 10:31:35 PM EDT
I have heard that the 10mm has great speed and power and can get thru some pretty hard targets, but the 45 created a better wound channels (as said by FBI test). I have also read about people hog hunting with the 45 and being very un-impressed with its abilities to stop the porker, the autor even went to say if he had hit the pig in the same places with a 22LR it would have had a better effect.
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Take it with a grain of salt but the reason I like the .45acp so much is because of my Grandfather. We were watching some action movie were a guy had gotten hit a few times with a .45 and my Grandfather, being a WWII vet, said "that's bullshit." "You hit anybody anywhere with a .45 and they're going to drop."
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I have never been in the military, let alone in combat, but if you look at the ballistics of the 10mmACP, but the power of this cartridge is close to that of the 41 Rem Mag. The 10mm is probably the most powerful cartridge availible for a common service pistol size. Where the 45 would fail to penetrate, no problem for the 10. Somebody is going to discover the difference between cover and concealment real quick.
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WW1,WW2,Korea,Vietnam,Grenada,Panama,Desert Storm among others. Battle proven .45ACP!
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I have a .45 in 1911 and a 10mm in G20. The 10 has (almost) half again the velocity and double the energy of the .45. 10mm=.40cal. and could be classified as a Magnum. You'll be hard pressed to find a hotter automatic hand gun round. (other than the Desert Eagle) Here in MN you can't deer hunt with the .45ACP because of it's lack of penetrating power, but you can with the 10.
In combat, penetration isn't everything, but knockdown is...few cartridges knock down better than the venerable .45ACP
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Originally Posted By sprayboy:
In combat, penetration isn't everything, but knockdown is...few cartridges knock down better than the venerable .45ACP View Quote |
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The biggest difference between the two is accuracy/control. *If* you can put the 10mm on target, it's a more powerful cartridge and will do more damage. However, you are more likely to get the .45 where you want it.
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I LOVE the 10mm. I plan on getting a S&W 1006 or 1026 10mm and a G20. 45ACP, battle proven only because the 10mm didn't come out first! [:)]
BrenLover
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I took a tour of the Wash DC headquaters of the FBI, and as a finale I saw a FBI agent fire a HK MP5/10. Other people have mentioned that the 10 is such a stout round that it is causing parts breakage etc. The thing about the follow up shot in a 10mm pistol is quite valid because the recoil is stout. Whether this round has a place in the police/military is another matter. Many people on this board are gun ethusiasist, whereas the average person in the police/military is probably not.
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Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
Take it with a grain of salt but the reason I like the .45acp so much is because of my Grandfather. We were watching some action movie were a guy had gotten hit a few times with a .45 and my Grandfather, being a WWII vet, said "that's bullshit." "You hit anybody anywhere with a .45 and they're going to drop." View Quote |
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Originally Posted By wgunn: Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
Take it with a grain of salt but the reason I like the .45acp so much is because of my Grandfather. We were watching some action movie were a guy had gotten hit a few times with a .45 and my Grandfather, being a WWII vet, said "that's bullshit." "You hit anybody anywhere with a .45 and they're going to drop." View Quote View Quote |
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Exactly.
The difference between the two rounds is that the 10mm is capable of more penetration (with the proper load and bullet) than the .45, which makes it a better load for hunting large game (hogs & deer) than .45. The 10mm can also be loaded with lighter, faster bullets that are better against humans, which don't require as much penetration to get to the vitals as, say, a hog.
Understand that when you're making generalizations (even when they're true), that the specific details matter.
-Troy
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The 10mm, fully loaded, is much better for hunting big game.
That said, most 10mms are semiautos that might not be able to cycle lighter, subsonic plinking or suppressed loads. Full power loads in a 45 ACP are still subsonic - easy on the ears and economical of powder.
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The 10mm can be loaded down to light 40cal levels and still function in most guns. 9mm levels are prob gonna be to low to work.
BrenLover
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Originally Posted By wgunn:
Originally Posted By doorgunner84:
Take it with a grain of salt but the reason I like the .45acp so much is because of my Grandfather. We were watching some action movie were a guy had gotten hit a few times with a .45 and my Grandfather, being a WWII vet, said "that's bullshit." "You hit anybody anywhere with a .45 and they're going to drop." View Quote View Quote |
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That's gonna depend too, type of hold, experience of the shooter, hotness of ammo, design of the gun etc. Your uncontrolable might be acceptable to me and visey versy.
BrenLover
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Originally Posted By ECS:
I couln't agree with you more, shot placement is everything.
So, which round is more controllable?
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