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Posted: 9/3/2015 2:30:29 PM EDT
https://www.yahoo.com/health/survey-findings-highlight-the-staggering-toll-of-128057394882.html

And meditation is the answer.



Seems extrapolated from polling....POLL ADDED.

Pain is never far from the sufferer’s mind. There’s a reason 71 percent of men and women reported “feeling nervous, anxious or on edge” in the past two weeks, and 73 percent said they had “little interest or pleasure in doing things,” says Savage. “Pain actually changes the central nervous system,” she explains. Fortunately, there is hope: “We’ve found that therapies like meditation can really change pain transmission and processing.”
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:31:15 PM EDT
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1 in 3.5?  Bullshit.
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Add a poll... see how arfcom fares.
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Add a poll OP.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:34:59 PM EDT
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About the same number of Americans that have a job..
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:35:15 PM EDT
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When does free percocet flow ?
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:37:15 PM EDT
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More retirees every day, I know older people in continual pain, and also people with damaged backs.
But that number still seems a little too high.
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Causation or correlation?  
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:37:41 PM EDT
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Chronic pain?  Get you some chronic, Dre.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:37:59 PM EDT
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Im in pain.

Shoulder, back, knee, hips.

Left hand and foot tingle.


33 :)


But i still fuck and do.things without meds
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:38:08 PM EDT
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Shitty diets.
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Pain has many causes.  My osteonecrosis has nothing to do with diet or exercise or any other lifestyle choices.

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I have severe arthritis in both shoulders with the right one being the worst. I cannot get more than an hour of sleep at a time because every time I move to roll over I wake up from the pain. I have had to resort to working a job at half of what I made before because I simply can't do steel fabrication work anymore. The pain meds don't help and only serve to upset my stomach. I refuse to take narcotics so I'm stuck with nsaids which don't really help. My only recourse is a full shoulder joint replacement but the doc won't do it until I'm 55 and that's 6 years away. I'm wishing that there's something that I can do for the pain but unfortunately I'm stuck with it.
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Lower back pain since I was 18, now 28.  Chiropractors and physical therapy doesn't help so I just live with it.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:48:00 PM EDT
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Is this like the poll that found widespread hunger by asking "Have you ever been hungry during the day?"

Yes, my knees hurt every single morning when I get up.  I don't classify that as "chronic pain."
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:49:10 PM EDT
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pain sucks
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:49:37 PM EDT
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Five bad disc, missing half of left elbow (shattered and removed) chronic intestinal problems, fucked right shoulder I've never even seen a Doc about.  Yes my life sucks many days  but pain lets me know I'm still alive.
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I'm not discounting genetic disorders and injuries as legitimate causes, but with 2/3 of the US adult population overweight or obese, and estimates that as much as 50% of the total US population suffering from metabolic syndrome as a result of their dietary choices, a huge chunk of chronic pain sufferers are suffering because of their diet -- either pain directly due to excess weight, or the side effects of metabolic syndrome that was caused by diet.
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Im in pain.

Shoulder, back, knee, hips.

Left hand and foot tingle.


33 :)


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Pretty much the same here, no meds, just deal with it.

Getting use to the existing pain, makes it easier to handle the new pain as i get older.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:52:24 PM EDT
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I have chronic muscle pain, neck, back, legs... Getting up every morning sucks.  I push myself through the day but never really feel energized.  I exercise regularly, lift weights, bike, run, etc.  But while I make gains in strength or speed and look "fit", exercise exacerbates the muscle pain.  Every test from every doctor comes back normal.  I also have issues sleeping and I think the pain stems from lack of quality sleep, but again no doctor can help me sleep better either.  I can see how someone could get hooked on pain killers, if it makes this all go away.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:54:14 PM EDT
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Has the incidence of chronic pain in America changed, or the willingness to whine about it changed?



Perhaps chronic pain is final stage/result of a nanny culture.







Link Posted: 9/3/2015 2:54:40 PM EDT
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Gout and pseudogout and oddly enough, a stroke affecting my left side has lead to left shoulder pain
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https://www.yahoo.com/health/survey-findings-highlight-the-staggering-toll-of-128057394882.html

And meditation is the answer.



Seems extrapolated from polling....POLL ADDED.

Pain is never far from the sufferer’s mind. There’s a reason 71 percent of men and women reported “feeling nervous, anxious or on edge” in the past two weeks, and 73 percent said they had “little interest or pleasure in doing things,” says Savage. “Pain actually changes the central nervous system,” she explains. Fortunately, there is hope: “We’ve found that therapies like meditation can really change pain transmission and processing.”
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Meditation is definitely cheaper than being on disability, but don't tell that to Millions of lazy bastards/cunts with government benefits.
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Yeah, I wonder how much of those statistics are the result of drug seekers who want narcotics.  After all "pain" can be very difficult to diagnose, and easy to fake.

After about two years of seeing spine specialists here in DC for my chronic back pain, and trying lots of different drugs, procedures, injections into my spine, physical therapy, etc. - I asked my main doc there EXACTLY what was causing the pain.  His answer: "I have no idea" - and listed a bunch of things it could be, or probably was, but he wasn't sure, and it could be a combination of things.
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Yeah, I wonder how much of those statistics are the result of drug seekers who want narcotics.  After all "pain" can be very difficult to diagnose, and easy to fake.

After about two years of seeing spine specialists here in DC for my chronic back pain, and trying lots of different drugs, procedures, injections into my spine, physical therapy, etc. - I asked my main doc there EXACTLY what was causing the pain.  His answer: "I have no idea" - and listed a bunch of things it could be, or probably was, but he wasn't sure, and it could be a combination of things.


If you have not tried it, Radioablation therapy works really well for my back injury and it keeps me off pain meds.  RFA  is a procedure used to reduce pain. An electrical current produced by a radio wave is used to heat up a small area of nerve tissue, thereby decreasing pain signals from that specific area.  I just copied the description from webb md.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:02:40 PM EDT
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Life is pain.
Anyone who tells you different is trying to sell you something.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:03:30 PM EDT
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Probably fibromyalgia or maybe lupus .....................  
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:04:29 PM EDT
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Not all of us are on the government tit.

My doctor told me everyone walks around in severe abdominal pain.  Few months later, almost die from a pancreatic cyst.  

I'm just making the pain up though, your pancreas shitting itself doesn't hurt at all.
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ya and my missing parts due to cancer. thats not diet or exercise. hell about the only time I take meds now is prior to a work out, or if I know the physical activity is going to kill me in about 2 hrs later.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:07:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:08:05 PM EDT
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Idiots are a pain in my ass.

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ya and my missing parts due to cancer. thats not diet or exercise. hell about the only time I take meds now is prior to a work out, or if I know the physical activity is going to kill me in about 2 hrs later.
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ya and my missing parts due to cancer. thats not diet or exercise. hell about the only time I take meds now is prior to a work out, or if I know the physical activity is going to kill me in about 2 hrs later.


I feel you guys.

Most pancreatitis is due to alcoholism so I was treated like scum.  Was a gall stone that caused mine.  Shit can hit you out of the blue and change you forever.  Last thing we need is some dipshit with  no problems calling us drug addicts.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:09:55 PM EDT
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Well, in my case, it's two fused vertebrae, nerve damage near my spine, and arthritis.

Yeah, I'm in pain.
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it don't make it go away, you just don't give a shit about it..
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:10:22 PM EDT
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Surprised that the number is not higher!  Every American that I know is hurting and is hurting worse now than when 0bummer took office!





Seriously speaking,  I have live in pain since my first brain tumor at the age of 15.



 
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Anyone who tells you different is trying to sell you something.


Oh, Westley.


I knew it...

Lol

Any way arfcom indicates 50%....
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I feel you guys.



Most pancreatitis is due to alcoholism so I was treated like scum.  Was a gall stone that caused mine.  Shit can hit you out of the blue and change you forever.  Last thing we need is some dipshit with  no problems calling us drug addicts.
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ya and my missing parts due to cancer. thats not diet or exercise. hell about the only time I take meds now is prior to a work out, or if I know the physical activity is going to kill me in about 2 hrs later.




I feel you guys.



Most pancreatitis is due to alcoholism so I was treated like scum.  Was a gall stone that caused mine.  Shit can hit you out of the blue and change you forever.  Last thing we need is some dipshit with  no problems calling us drug addicts.




 
Dr. offices are REALLY beginning to piss me off with this.. I signed up to see a new General practitioner last week, and the first thing they said to me is "I see, Mr. Nesvick, that when you last went to the ER (A few months ago) that you were prescribed Narcotics (Norco for kidney stones).. I hope you know that we do NOT give out pain medicine here."  




Yeah bitch, I'm a fucking addict looking to score.  That's why I'm coming in there just to get an appointment for a sleep study.  




Fucking assholes.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:13:53 PM EDT
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Just the dull, throbbing ache of blueballs.
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  Dr. offices are REALLY beginning to piss me off with this.. I signed up to see a new General practitioner last week, and the first thing they said to me is "I see, Mr. Nesvick, that when you last went to the ER (A few months ago) that you were prescribed Narcotics (Norco for kidney stones).. I hope you know that we do NOT give out pain medicine here."  


Yeah bitch, I'm a fucking addict looking to score.  That's why I'm coming in there just to get an appointment for a sleep study.  


Fucking assholes.
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ya and my missing parts due to cancer. thats not diet or exercise. hell about the only time I take meds now is prior to a work out, or if I know the physical activity is going to kill me in about 2 hrs later.


I feel you guys.

Most pancreatitis is due to alcoholism so I was treated like scum.  Was a gall stone that caused mine.  Shit can hit you out of the blue and change you forever.  Last thing we need is some dipshit with  no problems calling us drug addicts.

  Dr. offices are REALLY beginning to piss me off with this.. I signed up to see a new General practitioner last week, and the first thing they said to me is "I see, Mr. Nesvick, that when you last went to the ER (A few months ago) that you were prescribed Narcotics (Norco for kidney stones).. I hope you know that we do NOT give out pain medicine here."  


Yeah bitch, I'm a fucking addict looking to score.  That's why I'm coming in there just to get an appointment for a sleep study.  


Fucking assholes.


They will start talking about how some patients will try scamming for scripts and shit.  As if that applies to us.  They can see all the tests showing we are fucked up.  Sometimes I think they get joy out of that shit.

I was laying on what they thought was my death bed with my first bout of chronic pancreatitis.  Fucking cunt nurse gets Alcoholics Anonymous sent to my room.  lol
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I have chronic muscle pain, neck, back, legs... Getting up every morning sucks.  I push myself through the day but never really feel energized.  I exercise regularly, lift weights, bike, run, etc.  But while I make gains in strength or speed and look "fit", exercise exacerbates the muscle pain.  Every test from every doctor comes back normal.  I also have issues sleeping and I think the pain stems from lack of quality sleep, but again no doctor can help me sleep better either.  I can see how someone could get hooked on pain killers, if it makes this all go away.
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Do you have sleep apnea? You described how I used to feel on average.  Get a sleep study done.
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They will start talking about how some patients will try scamming for scripts and shit.  As if that applies to us.  They can see all the tests showing we are fucked up.  Sometimes I think they get joy out of that shit.





I was laying on what they thought was my death bed with my first bout of chronic pancreatitis.  Fucking cunt nurse gets Alcoholics Anonymous sent to my room.  lol
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You handled that better than I would have.







Fucking medical profession pisses me off sometimes..  You know, I AM paying for this shit and a while I don't expect 5 star hotel treatment, a little mutual respect would be nice.


 
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I am in chronic pain, as in several disc jacked up all along my spine, soft tissue tears that never healed right, degenerative disc disease, spina bifida, etc. but I only take pain meds when I get kidney stones. As of right now I have a "pinched nerve" in my upper shoulder area. People need to Toughen Up likt aimless says.

What's funny is the last time I went to the ER for my kidney stones, the ER take in nurse asked what was wrong. So I told her, kidney stones, she asks in a condescending tone, "how do you know that sir"? I told her to look at my cat scan from the night before
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Fucking medical profession pisses me off sometimes..  You know, I AM paying for this shit and a while I don't expect 5 star hotel treatment, a little mutual respect would be nice.
 
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They will start talking about how some patients will try scamming for scripts and shit.  As if that applies to us.  They can see all the tests showing we are fucked up.  Sometimes I think they get joy out of that shit.

I was laying on what they thought was my death bed with my first bout of chronic pancreatitis.  Fucking cunt nurse gets Alcoholics Anonymous sent to my room.  lol

  You handled that better than I would have.


Fucking medical profession pisses me off sometimes..  You know, I AM paying for this shit and a while I don't expect 5 star hotel treatment, a little mutual respect would be nice.
 


Bro, I was in la la land on dilaudid.  I remember my dad told me long ago, "If you wanna live, don't go to the hospital alone."  I had family there to look after me, thank god.

Eventually got a former military male nurse and he was awesome.  Made sure everything went smooth.

PS.  I was a medic at one point, I treated everyone fairly.  I expected the same treatment when I was in the hospital.
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44

Thirty years of martial arts, weightlifting and motorcycle racing.

My sixties are gonna be hell.
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:28:36 PM EDT
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I thought I knew what pain was( a bad kidney stone that was my "10" for most of my adult life...shit its a "5" now... take a look and tell me it don't look painful............its been a constant everyday battle for 2.5 years now....
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:29:19 PM EDT
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An aging population will increase the numbers in chronic pain with a variety of causes.  1 in 31/2 does seem a bit inflated though.
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They will start talking about how some patients will try scamming for scripts and shit.  As if that applies to us.  They can see all the tests showing we are fucked up.  Sometimes I think they get joy out of that shit.

I was laying on what they thought was my death bed with my first bout of chronic pancreatitis.  Fucking cunt nurse gets Alcoholics Anonymous sent to my room.  lol

  You handled that better than I would have.


Fucking medical profession pisses me off sometimes..  You know, I AM paying for this shit and a while I don't expect 5 star hotel treatment, a little mutual respect would be nice.
 

First doctors office I went to after my accident, before they would even let me see the doc, I had to do a piss test..talk about pissed off..of course only thing in my stream was levels consistent with the prescription the ER had given me a few days earlier..needless to say, they didn't get any more business from me besides that first consult......
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First doctors office I went to after my accident, before they would even let me see the doc, I had to do a piss test..talk about pissed off..of course only thing in my stream was levels consistent with the prescription the ER had given me a few days earlier..needless to say, they didn't get any more business from me besides that first consult......
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They will start talking about how some patients will try scamming for scripts and shit.  As if that applies to us.  They can see all the tests showing we are fucked up.  Sometimes I think they get joy out of that shit.

I was laying on what they thought was my death bed with my first bout of chronic pancreatitis.  Fucking cunt nurse gets Alcoholics Anonymous sent to my room.  lol

  You handled that better than I would have.


Fucking medical profession pisses me off sometimes..  You know, I AM paying for this shit and a while I don't expect 5 star hotel treatment, a little mutual respect would be nice.
 

First doctors office I went to after my accident, before they would even let me see the doc, I had to do a piss test..talk about pissed off..of course only thing in my stream was levels consistent with the prescription the ER had given me a few days earlier..needless to say, they didn't get any more business from me besides that first consult......


I believe it's the government that makes them do a lot of this.  I know a lot changed at the first of this year.
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100 Million Americans in Chronic Pain
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And 100 million Americans are married. Coincidence?
Link Posted: 9/3/2015 3:35:14 PM EDT
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I have it..I also have the MRI's to say why. I also work a full time job. I deal with it..some days are better than others.
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I believe it's the government that makes them do a lot of this.  I know a lot changed at the first of this year.
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They will start talking about how some patients will try scamming for scripts and shit.  As if that applies to us.  They can see all the tests showing we are fucked up.  Sometimes I think they get joy out of that shit.

I was laying on what they thought was my death bed with my first bout of chronic pancreatitis.  Fucking cunt nurse gets Alcoholics Anonymous sent to my room.  lol

  You handled that better than I would have.


Fucking medical profession pisses me off sometimes..  You know, I AM paying for this shit and a while I don't expect 5 star hotel treatment, a little mutual respect would be nice.
 

First doctors office I went to after my accident, before they would even let me see the doc, I had to do a piss test..talk about pissed off..of course only thing in my stream was levels consistent with the prescription the ER had given me a few days earlier..needless to say, they didn't get any more business from me besides that first consult......


I believe it's the government that makes them do a lot of this.  I know a lot changed at the first of this year.

this happened in april of 13, their excuse was so many people try to game the system for drugs.....I understand their point, but since I hadn't been near a doctors office in years, I showed them that same pic I posted, and had the ER paperwork from a few days earlier..it was a bit over the top...
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