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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:47:28 PM EDT
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The Orc should have thought about the consequences of his actions before crossing over to Ukraine.

VP
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:48:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:52:17 PM EDT
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That is not a war crime, its war after all. Russians refuse to get out of Ukraine. Fuck them. Kill all of them. Fuck Putin.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 9:57:36 PM EDT
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Just 10-20 years ago, our societal values would have called these IED/execution style videos "terrism". Now we're supposed to chant Slava Akbar / Death to the great satan along with them
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Meh, it’s coming here with the advent of autonomous weapons.  Your negative DEI score will be enough to track and murder you without human intervention.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:00:14 PM EDT
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Lol, we've had bureaucrats and their advisors peddling bullshit in Ukraine since before their supposed independence.  They’ve never really been independent, just a waffling, corrupt vassal state.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:00:29 PM EDT
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War crime?  What are they supposed to do?  Let the guy call a timeout and run to cover.  The drone can't collect the guy or take him in.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:00:55 PM EDT
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Saudi Arabia?
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Alqaeda and Afghanistan.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:03:45 PM EDT
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Three posts.  Calls me a fud[d] and accuses me of hating America.

And that's how you fight for democracy and freedom, eh?  Tell me - how many years you spent doing that?
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Maybe posting something as a war crime that isn't a war crime made you into a bit of a target. There are too many hyperbolic pro Russian threads like this. Maybe that really wasn't your intention, maybe you didn't intend to come off as pro Russian.

Probably best to leave it be.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:04:30 PM EDT
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I assume you feel the same way about the US? We’ve been the invaders in every war we’ve ever fought.
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History disagrees with you.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:05:54 PM EDT
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Alqaeda and Afghanistan.
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Saudi Arabia?


Alqaeda and Afghanistan.


Saudis attacked us. Wonder why we didn’t invade them…
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:07:24 PM EDT
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History disagrees with you.
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I assume you feel the same way about the US? We’ve been the invaders in every war we’ve ever fought.


History disagrees with you.



Name all the wars we fought on US soil. Excluding Covid, and magaman “deployments”.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:44:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 10:45:41 PM EDT
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Are there possible "war crimes" on an invading force??? I think it's an oxymoron. Defend by all means necessary. ALL MEANS.



[BTW I am not an UkeBro, but I advocate for natural law]
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Nailed it. If a foreign adversary were to invade the US, I think it's safe to say that any mention of ROE or the Geneva Convention will be thrown out the fecking window.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:39:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:46:55 PM EDT
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Three posts.  Calls me a fud[d] and accuses me of hating America.

And that's how you fight for democracy and freedom, eh?  Tell me - how many years you spent doing that?
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Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:52:18 PM EDT
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Name all the wars we fought on US soil. Excluding Covid, and magaman “deployments”.
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Revolutionary war
War of 1812
Pancho villa invading NM
Pearl Harbor
Japanese invasion of the Aleutian Islands
9/11
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 11:53:34 PM EDT
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Revolutionary war
War of 1812
Pancho villa invading NM
Pearl Harbor
Japanese invasion of the Aleutian Islands
9/11
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Name all the wars we fought on US soil. Excluding Covid, and magaman “deployments”.


Revolutionary war
War of 1812
Pancho villa invading NM
Pearl Harbor
Japanese invasion of the Aleutian Islands
9/11


Link Posted: 9/24/2023 12:06:24 AM EDT
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Revolutionary war
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Name all the wars we fought on US soil. Excluding Covid, and magaman “deployments”.


Revolutionary war
War of 1812
Pancho villa invading NM
Pearl Harbor
Japanese invasion of the Aleutian Islands
9/11


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Link Posted: 9/24/2023 12:15:05 AM EDT
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Saudis attacked us. Wonder why we didn’t invade them…
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Saudi Arabia attacked the USA?

I distinctly recall the training camps and backing being from Afghanistan and Al qaeda.

Link Posted: 9/24/2023 12:15:35 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/24/2023 12:22:43 AM EDT
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Firmly in the "should have stayed home" camp.

Russian troops traditionally do horrendous shit, fuck them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 12:24:51 AM EDT
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Saudi Arabia attacked the USA?

I distinctly recall the training camps and backing being from Afghanistan and Al qaeda.

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Laughs in Pakistani.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 12:35:40 AM EDT
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Sad thing, but it doesn’t rustle my jimmies.  I think a lot of ROEs are retarded, but nobody asked me to sign off on them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 1:20:07 AM EDT
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Maybe posting something as a war crime that isn't a war crime made you into a bit of a target. There are too many hyperbolic pro Russian threads like this. Maybe that really wasn't your intention, maybe you didn't intend to come off as pro Russian.

Probably best to leave it be.
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Three posts.  Calls me a fud[d] and accuses me of hating America.

And that's how you fight for democracy and freedom, eh?  Tell me - how many years you spent doing that?


Maybe posting something as a war crime that isn't a war crime made you into a bit of a target. There are too many hyperbolic pro Russian threads like this. Maybe that really wasn't your intention, maybe you didn't intend to come off as pro Russian.

Probably best to leave it be.

This post chain does not show OP "getting made bit of a target" (que Ukrainian esl voice). It shows OP making fun of some goofy replies to his thread.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 1:28:32 AM EDT
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The Orc should have thought about the consequences of his actions before crossing over to Ukraine.

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At least the orc died doing what he loved - participating in an illegal and unprovoked invasion.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 1:44:42 AM EDT
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I'm sure some here will love this, but it's a war crime.  "Both Russia and Ukraine are Parties to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1977 Additional Protocols. Accordingly, they are bound by those instruments, as well as the customary international law of armed conflict."

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 It is only a war crime if you are the loser.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 1:50:15 AM EDT
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It's all fun and games till vald drops a nuke on Kiev.....
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:10:10 AM EDT
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The sad thing is the Russians posted their own videos to counter this, as they usually do.

While the videos are not usually shared in GD, especially in the big Ukranie war thread, for every Russian that is killed by drones like this one there are 10 videos of young Ukranian conscripts getting droned and begging for life.

For me, the worst thing is watching Ukranians evacuate wounded and being targeted. The modified VOG-30D (HE), which is from their 30mm grenade launcher fragments into 5mm squares and typically hits legs and groins causing a slow death. The Russians are testing a new grenade that has a 30 cm shaft connected to the primer so that it goes off at knee level, it is brutally effective.

The automation of these types of attacks using AI has changed war, we already know that the Chinese have drones that go out and kill everything in a grid, and you can see how effective it is in these videos.

I personally think we need a moratorium on drone warfare, the endgame if we don't enact one is the end of humanity. There is no winning against AI powered drone warfare, there is only death and trying to compete with China is a losing proposition from the outset. It probably will not happen but I see it as similar to the Declaration of Saint Petersburg in 1868 regarding explosive or expanding bullets, it is possible to do something like that if the USA backs it. Probably impossible untill WWIII is over but it is going to be necessary for humanity.



Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:11:04 AM EDT
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Name all the wars we fought on US soil. Excluding Covid, and magaman “deployments”.
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I assume you feel the same way about the US? We’ve been the invaders in every war we’ve ever fought.


History disagrees with you.



Name all the wars we fought on US soil. Excluding Covid, and magaman “deployments”.


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Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:13:18 AM EDT
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Nailed it. If a foreign adversary were to invade the US, I think it's safe to say that any mention of ROE or the Geneva Convention will be thrown out the fecking window.
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Are there possible "war crimes" on an invading force??? I think it's an oxymoron. Defend by all means necessary. ALL MEANS.



[BTW I am not an UkeBro, but I advocate for natural law]


Nailed it. If a foreign adversary were to invade the US, I think it's safe to say that any mention of ROE or the Geneva Convention will be thrown out the fecking window.


Then scores of Americans would be warcrimed.

Disorganized rugged individualists get cut down by organized military forces who have no qualms about commiting atrocities.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:15:04 AM EDT
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The sad thing is the Russians posted their own videos to counter this, as they usually do.

While the videos are not usually shared in GD, especially in the big Ukranie war thread, for every Russian that is killed by drones like this one there are 10 videos of young Ukranian conscripts getting droned and begging for life.

For me, the worst thing is watching Ukranians evacuate wounded and being targeted. The modified VOG-30D (HE), which is from their 30mm grenade launcher fragments into 5mm squares and typically hits legs and groins causing a slow death. The Russians are testing a new grenade that has a 30 cm shaft connected to the primer so that it goes off at knee level, it is brutally effective.

The automation of these types of attacks using AI has changed war, we already know that the Chinese have drones that go out and kill everything in a grid, and you can see how effective it is in these videos.

I personally think we need a moratorium on drone warfare, the endgame if we don't enact one is the end of humanity. There is no winning against AI powered drone warfare, there is only death and trying to compete with China is a losing proposition from the outset. It probably will not happen but I see it as similar to the Declaration of Saint Petersburg in 1868 regarding explosive or expanding bullets, it is possible to do something like that if the USA backs it. Probably impossible untill WWIII is over but it is going to be necessary for humanity.



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Koolaid disagrees with your excellent post.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:19:44 AM EDT
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Why aren't we seeing videos of oligarchs' motorcades being attacked and their houses droned?

Seeing videos of some poor fuck that was forced to be there getting blown to pieces by his cousin from over the border is a bummer. The dudes happily cheering on the death of "orcs" in these kinds of threads possess some powerful shrimp-dick energy.

Show me the shattered remains of the dudes forcing these kids to kill each other and then we'll have a party.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:41:28 AM EDT
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Why aren't we seeing videos of oligarchs' motorcades being attacked and their houses droned?

Seeing videos of some poor fuck that was forced to be there getting blown to pieces by his cousin from over the border is a bummer. The dudes happily cheering on the death of "orcs" in these kinds of threads possess some powerful shrimp-dick energy.

Show me the shattered remains of the dudes forcing these kids to kill each other and then we'll have a party.
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There have been countless attacks inside Russia attacking industrial and economic targets, on top of the freezing of assets and seizure in the West. 2 days ago, the Black Sea Fleet Headquarters was destroyed. Attacks are happening against the entire Chain of command.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:48:41 AM EDT
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It's all fun and games till vald drops a nuke on Kiev.....
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The political costs would make him the king of an oblast, not a Tsar.


Isn’t it kind of weird to nuke the nation you claim
As your own?
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 2:53:14 AM EDT
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There have been countless attacks inside Russia attacking industrial and economic targets, on top of the freezing of assets and seizure in the West. 2 days ago, the Black Sea Fleet Headquarters was destroyed. Attacks are happening against the entire Chain of command.
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Why aren't we seeing videos of oligarchs' motorcades being attacked and their houses droned?

Seeing videos of some poor fuck that was forced to be there getting blown to pieces by his cousin from over the border is a bummer. The dudes happily cheering on the death of "orcs" in these kinds of threads possess some powerful shrimp-dick energy.

Show me the shattered remains of the dudes forcing these kids to kill each other and then we'll have a party.



There have been countless attacks inside Russia attacking industrial and economic targets, on top of the freezing of assets and seizure in the West. 2 days ago, the Black Sea Fleet Headquarters was destroyed. Attacks are happening against the entire Chain of command.


Awesome. Why don't the threads on that have the same staying power of some rando enlisted kid getting ripped apart?

There's something sincerely fucked up about all this.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 3:37:17 AM EDT
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If someone, anyone, invaded my home and was killing my people, the laws can f off. There is no law to protect an invasive army. Do what you can to drop them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 4:16:56 AM EDT
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If someone, anyone, invaded my home and was killing my people, the laws can f off. There is no law to protect an invasive army. Do what you can to drop them.
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But dont film it and post it online and then maybe no one will have a problem with it.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 5:30:08 AM EDT
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It won't even make it to trial before China does worse to the western forces fighting on behalf of globohomo.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 5:32:16 AM EDT
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Saudis attacked us. Wonder why we didn’t invade them…
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Saudi Arabia?


Alqaeda and Afghanistan.


Saudis attacked us. Wonder why we didn’t invade them…

Because the corrupt globohomos were doing a power grab and working towards Agenda 30.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 5:35:09 AM EDT
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Firmly in the "should have stayed home" camp.

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Yep. We should have stayed home instead of making 200 bases around the world. BRING THEM ALL HOME. George washing ton warned us about not staying isolationist, and look where it got us.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 5:36:30 AM EDT
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And since they're allied with GLOBOHOMO, they won't be the loser.

Don't worry, we don't have to worry about losing in our inevitable struggle against them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 5:38:30 AM EDT
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The sad thing is the Russians posted their own videos to counter this, as they usually do.

While the videos are not usually shared in GD, especially in the big Ukranie war thread, for every Russian that is killed by drones like this one there are 10 videos of young Ukranian conscripts getting droned and begging for life.

For me, the worst thing is watching Ukranians evacuate wounded and being targeted. The modified VOG-30D (HE), which is from their 30mm grenade launcher fragments into 5mm squares and typically hits legs and groins causing a slow death. The Russians are testing a new grenade that has a 30 cm shaft connected to the primer so that it goes off at knee level, it is brutally effective.

The automation of these types of attacks using AI has changed war, we already know that the Chinese have drones that go out and kill everything in a grid, and you can see how effective it is in these videos.

I personally think we need a moratorium on drone warfare, the endgame if we don't enact one is the end of humanity. There is no winning against AI powered drone warfare, there is only death and trying to compete with China is a losing proposition from the outset. It probably will not happen but I see it as similar to the Declaration of Saint Petersburg in 1868 regarding explosive or expanding bullets, it is possible to do something like that if the USA backs it. Probably impossible untill WWIII is over but it is going to be necessary for humanity.



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After WWIII is over, drones won't be an understood thing for a few centuries, so we'll have some time to figure it out.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 6:28:30 AM EDT
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No such thing as a war crime.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 6:53:42 AM EDT
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That is not the point. The point is that first grenade made that "orc" a not combative. More than likely, the "orc" will die in short order. Kind of pointless to keep dropping grenades on him.

Plus, i automatically discount the opinion of anyone who refers to another human being as an orc. That is raw propaganda. Likely just some concrripted schmuck who really doesn't want to be there.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 7:56:45 AM EDT
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War sucks
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That is not the point. The point is that first grenade made that "orc" a not combative. More than likely, the "orc" will die in short order. Kind of pointless to keep dropping grenades on him.

Plus, i automatically discount the opinion of anyone who refers to another human being as an orc. That is raw propaganda. Likely just some concrripted schmuck who really doesn't want to be there.
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That is not the point. The point is that first grenade made that "orc" a not combative. More than likely, the "orc" will die in short order. Kind of pointless to keep dropping grenades on him.

Plus, i automatically discount the opinion of anyone who refers to another human being as an orc. That is raw propaganda. Likely just some concrripted schmuck who really doesn't want to be there.

Can you point to some LOAC information that says being injured makes one no longer a lawful combatant?
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 10:10:17 AM EDT
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Why would terrorists be charged and tried in a court during a conflict?  

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Because they're not terrorists until they get their time in front of a judge per writ of habeas corpus.
And if you don't see a problem with a president doing whatever the hell he wants to anyone  as long as he does it to them offshore, then there is no arguing with you.
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 10:17:04 AM EDT
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Awesome. Why don't the threads on that have the same staying power of some rando enlisted kid getting ripped apart?

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There is literally a 5k thread with page after page dedicated to the strategic, operational and tactical battlefields.

Why this one gained attention, well some one made an incredibly strong statement about the video that should be taken seriously and discussed. Why we didn’t have a similar thread about the Bucha massacre I don’t know, maybe it was expected from the Russians? There is a strong Russian bias on this site? Ultimately, given that we have conspiracy theories in the thread stating it didn’t happen, we probably should have had a thread about it:
Link Posted: 9/24/2023 10:19:10 AM EDT
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Im against sending a penny but you invade a country you are fair game.  Kind of funny, we have invaders and we coddle them.
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Because they're not terrorists until they get their time in front of a judge per writ of habeas corpus.
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Unlawful combatants getting a trial was unique.
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