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The fatah is hard to fight when kneecaps don't work. Fatah is the Palestinian political party that rivals Hamas,essentially it is the PLO. Intifada is what you are looking for,it means "to shake" or "the shaking" as a figurative term,in practical terms it means "lets throw rocks at guys with guns and see how that works". Having Fatah as an accepted word in your Google speech certainly has you on some list now |
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[Achmed] Mohammad, I know it's just a flesh wound to your thigh but I must cut your femoral artery so we can make you a martyr[/Achmed] View Quote This is actually a thing,funny enough. Carrying some poor bastard around to show how wounded he is and how mean the Israelis are rather than taking him for treatment. It's the same thing as crowd surfing corpses at their funeral processions,they are indeed a weird bunch. |
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WWII veterans are rolling in their graves over this blasphemous Israeli chest puffing...
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Having Fatah as an accepted word in your Google speech certainly has you on some list now View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The fatah is hard to fight when kneecaps don't work. Fatah is the Palestinian political party that rivals Hamas,essentially it is the PLO. Intifada is what you are looking for,it means "to shake" or "the shaking" as a figurative term,in practical terms it means "lets throw rocks at guys with guns and see how that works". Having Fatah as an accepted word in your Google speech certainly has you on some list now |
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This is actually a thing,funny enough. Carrying some poor bastard around to show how wounded he is and how mean the Israelis are rather than taking him for treatment. It's the same thing as crowd surfing corpses at their funeral processions,they are indeed a weird bunch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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[Achmed] Mohammad, I know it's just a flesh wound to your thigh but I must cut your femoral artery so we can make you a martyr[/Achmed] This is actually a thing,funny enough. Carrying some poor bastard around to show how wounded he is and how mean the Israelis are rather than taking him for treatment. It's the same thing as crowd surfing corpses at their funeral processions,they are indeed a weird bunch. |
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So the ACOG is goofy, although probably an available option for them. What would be the best optic for us to put on a 10/22 for riot control? A PA 22ACCS?
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So the ACOG is goofy, although probably an available option for them. What would be the best optic for us to put on a 10/22 for riot control? A PA 22ACCS? View Quote Ooh! I've been thinking about trying my PA 2.5X ACSS on my 7" .22 AR SBR with Mask-HD... Just gotta wait until I get it back from getting Cerakoted... -Lee |
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I love the video of the jeep hitting the guy after they were throwing molotovs and rocks at the soldiers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwzBhInrm8 View Quote Their ems doesn't fuck around. Scene safe? Leroooy jenkiiins! |
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To suggest that shooting rioters with .22's is a less lethal option is laughable.
Why suppress them? It's not like the Pali's don't know where the fire is coming from, the IDF isn't exactly using any sort of stealth and I doubt that a .22 round makes more noise than the normal background activity would anyway? |
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To suggest that shooting rioters with .22's is a less lethal option is laughable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
To suggest that shooting rioters with .22's is a less lethal option is laughable. Cause fuck the savages. Why suppress them? It's not like the Pali's don't know where the fire is coming from, the IDF isn't exactly using any sort of stealth and I doubt that a .22 round makes more noise than the normal background activity would anyway? Why not? Watch some of the videos of them in use, it becomes obvious then |
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You've never taken rocks, D cell batteries, chunks of bricks and rubber balls with razor blades in them during a riot, I guess. I'd call it civilized to shoot violent rioters with a .22, but that's just my personal experience talking. None of the judges who make the rules are willing to experience the experience, as it were. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In that role it's more of an assassination tool, any somewhat reliable 22 would work just as well. The idf uses it to take out people during protests. Claiming that 22lr is something of a less than lethal round is a laughable excuse and that's why you don't see any civilized country using 22lr on protestors. In fact 22lr is so dangerous, it tends to travel along limbs and going into the torso. A shot in a raised arm can travel along, through the armpit and into the heart. As for actual use in combat, it has been used in WWII (special service), Vietnam, SEALS have used suppressed ruger 22s. E & E kits sometimes in clude 22. FerFAL You've never taken rocks, D cell batteries, chunks of bricks and rubber balls with razor blades in them during a riot, I guess. I'd call it civilized to shoot violent rioters with a .22, but that's just my personal experience talking. None of the judges who make the rules are willing to experience the experience, as it were. Its FerFAIL, don't take the derp too personally |
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The infamous Ruger 10/22. The only rifle you need to modify to make it shoot well.
IIRC the IDF used Aguila SSS ammo. If IIRC they aimed for the bad guys huevos. |
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IIRC, doctrine is aim for the shin but the huevos is often where a "miss" lands View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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That's the MK22 Hush Puppy, a 9mm S&W M39(?). But they did use the above mentioned High Standard a lot. I would love to see a suppressed AR-7! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think maybe some of the early Ar-7 might have been there, I know they used suppressed .22 pistols http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hushpuppy_in_seal_museum.jpeg That's the MK22 Hush Puppy, a 9mm S&W M39(?). But they did use the above mentioned High Standard a lot. I would love to see a suppressed AR-7! My AR-7 wears a suppressor. It's an old school can, using what amounts to Brillo pads for baffles, with a hole through the center. It suppresses well, but the rifle is finicky as all get out. |
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http://www.tacticalsol.com/x-ring-series/x-ring-sb-x-barrel
This barrel is relevant to the thread. You can put it on your 10/22 and have a suppressed 16.5" barreled rifle with only one stamp, for the suppressor. |
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I love the video of the jeep hitting the guy after they were throwing molotovs and rocks at the soldiers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwzBhInrm8 View Quote Looks like their meatwagon guys...need a meatwagon themselves... Just how are Molotovs not a lethal force situation? |
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You know those were Pali EMS, not Israeli, right? They wanted to get him out of IDF hands and that's why they got fucking maced by the Izzy officer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Their ems doesn't fuck around. Scene safe? Leroooy jenkiiins! You know those were Pali EMS, not Israeli, right? They wanted to get him out of IDF hands and that's why they got fucking maced by the Izzy officer. Yeah I got that. Still funny to see. |
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Anyone know the technique these guys use ? Is this a shot to an extremity with a subsonic round or what? Which would explain that photo of the dude with the concrete building block tied with a piece of rope in front of his groin. |
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The "less lethal" thing is a misconception.
The IDF is intending to use potentially lethal force against the instigator they are targeting, but the 22lr is less likely to overpenetrate verses, say a 7.62 NATO sniper rifle, or even a 5.56, the agitator's are often in crowds. The suppression probably keeps people in the riots from stampeding eachother when the bullets start flying. |
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The Israelis quit using those 22s for riot control because they turned out to be more lethal than they thought. They also used a suppressed 22 pistol to kill guards during the entebbe raid. Not a new thing at all.
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lol I did that with a rabbit. I shot it dead on with a cci stinger. It was just sitting there and I shot it in the chest and hit a front leg too. It ran away and a buddy shot it with a shot gun so we looked and I poked a hole through it, chest through and hit a front leg. I shot a squirrel with my 223 Troy pump rifle, yeah hah that was fun View Quote |
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I love the video of the jeep hitting the guy after they were throwing molotovs and rocks at the soldiers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjwzBhInrm8 View Quote The Israeli's are far more "restrained" under these circumstances than would seem reasonable. Wood stocks and bayonets > Pepper spray although that stuff did a great job on those pricks. Cool Vid. |
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I have always liked how this gun looks. So I had one made. Slightly updated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWBOVQB_ToU Lehman http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o66/shaurii/new/IMG_9297.jpg View Quote |
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I think maybe some of the early Ar-7 might have been there, I know they used suppressed .22 pistols http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hushpuppy_in_seal_museum.jpeg That's the MK22 Hush Puppy, a 9mm S&W M39(?). But they did use the above mentioned High Standard a lot. I would love to see a suppressed AR-7! not my pic: |
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Lung shot, at least according to Cooper. View Quote WELL since cooper was never in v/nam except visiting his buddies to try and do business. , I doubt he knew what was used. were intregally suppressed brownings, colts, hi std's. built by the armorers good for 6-10 shots, then the fiberglass stuff started coming out the barrel. ammo came in a sterile brown box but had Israeli markngs. 25 rds to a box turned back in when got back to base drew it again when u needed 1. very quiet on dogs, geese (yes big f-----g chicken) and eyeballs or base of neck at close distance accurate to about 50 ft for a precise shot. 25 yds to just incapacite, knee's,feet. if a snatch we done and it was the only way. 1texan |
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lol I did that with a rabbit. I shot it dead on with a cci stinger. It was just sitting there and I shot it in the chest and hit a front leg too. It ran away and a buddy shot it with a shot gun so we looked and I poked a hole through it, chest through and hit a front leg. I shot a squirrel with my 223 Troy pump rifle, yeah hah that was fun There is some guy trying to sell one of those NIB on Texas Guntrader. He's come down $400 on the price so far to about $800. How in the hell that thing got to Texas I have no idea. |
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To suggest that shooting rioters with .22's is a less lethal option is laughable. Why suppress them? It's not like the Pali's don't know where the fire is coming from, the IDF isn't exactly using any sort of stealth and I doubt that a .22 round makes more noise than the normal background activity would anyway? View Quote Because guns are fucking loud and it can hurt your hearing. Hence the whole reason we're pushing to remove suppressors from the NFA. |
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No, .22's were in common use as far back as WWII. The High Standard and Colt Woodsman for example. Vietnam saw several versions of .22 rifles, mostly Remington. View Quote Additionally, Rex Applegate was teaching the suppressed 22 rifle to take out a rabble rouser as part of riot control to South American militaries in the 50's. |
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