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Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:55:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2005 4:57:31 AM EDT by GonzoAR15-1]

Originally Posted By olyarms:

So your telling me if they arent paying rent and if he goes to the courts and gets the paper work he cant kick them out?

Im sure your the type of guy who will defend a jack ass who broke his leg while robbing some one. Get him a few grand as well while your at it right hey its just a job.



Read his posts.

He had a roommate who fell behind on rent and he carried him for a while.  I got the impression that the roommate is now square with the house.  If he's not, then there is a process for evicting tenants.   That process in every state involves notice and an opportunity to cure.   The courts of most states have held, in the residential leasing context, that acceptance of future rent payments and failure to give notice of default will, after some period of time, result in a waiver of allegedly past due sums.  

Rights are great things, but in court the judges think of them as "use it or lose it" propositions.  Evicting a guy for non-payment of rent that is CURRENTLY still in default and in accordance with all applicable procedures is one thing.   Telling a guy to leave because he's uncomfortable with a third-party having a key and access to his stuff, and in the case of some of you yahoos, suggesting a forcible eviction without process, is another thing entirely.

And no, I would not take the case of someone I found morally reprehensible.   But in the case of my young lawyer trial for those college hotties, they were clearly the ones with valid grievences and the judge agreed.  (BTW, so did the appeals court).

Regards, Gonz.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:59:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:

Originally Posted By olyarms:
Are you being serious? Your family owns the home and your "roomates" who have failed to pay rent in the house are trying to make rules? If so its rather simply give them the boot.





LOL.

Let me tell you guys the story about the case I took a couple years out of law school for some college aged hotties.   See, they moved into a house with some guys from their dorm.   One of the guys' family owned the house and he made arbitrary and abrupt decisions thinking this "ownership" right somehow insulated him from complying with landlord tenant law.  He kicked these girls out without good cause and in violation of the landlord tenant statutes, in part (as the situation Greg describes) on the basis of "past wrongs" that the judge found had been both cured and waived under applicable law.   (The testimony at trial didn't get into this, but I was personally convinced that this guy and his buddies through their new hottie "roommates" would be fuck toys and then were frustrated when these women, you know, dated real men).  

I took this punk kid and his "family" for a wrongful eviction judgment of $5,000.00 per each of the women I represented, plus the defendants had to pay all my fees.  I then recorded the judgements against his house and the mortgage lender called the note and deed of trust under the "due on transfer" clause.   They had to sell the house to pay the judgments.  It happened that I bumped into the young punk working at 7-11 a couple months afterward.

So, you know, Greg... if you want to listen to these guys who tell you that you and your family's ownership of the house somehow gives you "super power" status with respect to your roommates, think again.   They have superior rights to your "girlfriend" and its not as open and shut as you might think.  

Be sure to post the story after you wrongfully evict these guys and they take you for a few grand, though.   Especially if one of them runs if with your headache of a girlfriend.

I'm enjoying these "drama" threads from you.  


So your telling me if they arent paying rent and if he goes to the courts and gets the paper work he cant kick them out?

Im sure your the type of guy who will defend a jack ass who broke his leg while robbing some one. Get him a few grand as well while your at it right hey its just a job.



Read his posts.

He had a roommate who fell behind on rent and he carried him for a while.  I got the impression that the roommate is now square with the house.  If he's not, then there is a process for evicting tenants.   That process in every state involves notice and an opportunity to cure.   The courts of most states have held, in the residential leasing conduct, that acceptance of future rent payments and failure to give notice of default will, after some period of time, result in a waiver of allegedly past due sums.  

Rights are great things, but in court the judges think of them as "use it or lose it" propositions.  Evicting a guy for non-payment of rent that is CURRENTLY still in default and in accordance with all applicable procedures is one thing.   Telling a guy to leave because he's uncomfortable with a third-party having a key and access to his stuff, and in the case of some of you yahoos, suggesting a forcible eviction without process, is another thing entirely.

And no, I would not take the case of someone I found morally reprehensible.   But in the case of my young lawyer trial for those college hotties, they were clearly the ones with valid grievences and the judge agreed.  (BTW, so did the appeals court).

Regards, Gonz.


By the way I didn't mean give them the boot physically but instead going through the courts. Kicking any one in the ass is mean

I may have mis read what he wrote, I was under the impression the guy hadnt payed his rent and broke up with his girlfriend and now didnt want his gf in the house.

I didnt just wake up by the way so that might be the reading proplem

Sorry for calling you a blood sucking lawyer.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 6:20:49 AM EDT
He can tell them to Foff and move out and he may be able to  give her a key, if there is nothing against having someone else stay based on the lease.  However he can not forceable remove them from the property.  

I would also agree that she has screwed one or both of your roommates and that is why they no longer want her around.  She now makes them uncomfortable because they feel bad about it because they consider you a friend.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 7:50:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Pistols at 20 paces.



+1

Or tell him to get another girlfriend, STFU,  and pay up for the last one's 4 months of free rent!

No Expert
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 8:02:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:
More drama from 1911Greg.

Dude:   They're probably just sick of the drama and the bipolar behavior you've described on this board.  They're likely also tired of listening to the alternating periods of fighting and fucking with you two.   God knows I'm sick of reading about it (and yet like a moth to a flame I click these threads.... sigh...).

You have roommates paying rent and she's not.   People reasonably expect to be secure in their stuff.   It was wrong for the other dude to have his g/f there all the time exposed to your shit, etc., and its wrong for you to put them in the place of having to worry that this woman has access to their shit when they're not home.   Obviously they don't trust her.   Maybe she's trying to get them to bang her while you're gone.   Maybe one already has.   Maybe they are more perceptive about her M.O. than you seem to be.   Whatever.   Girlfriends with keys to places where there are roommates will always be a problem.

If you want to play house with this woman, lose the roommates and get some rent from her.

Got damn you've got a lot of drama.

Every other day it seems.

Are you sure you're not CLEANCUT?  


finally.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 8:06:00 AM EDT
Well, if your GF had screwed one of the guys and then decided whe didn't want to put out anymore that would explain quite a few things that you've posted about her recently. And it would also explain why the other roommates are now all of a sudden pissed about her being there and want her out...
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 8:08:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2005 8:10:05 AM EDT by gotodengo]

Originally Posted By erickktm:
He can tell them to Foff and move out and he may be able to  give her a key, if there is nothing against having someone else stay based on the lease.  However he can not forceable remove them from the property.  

I would also agree that she has screwed one or both of your roommates and that is why they no longer want her around.  She now makes them uncomfortable because they feel bad about it because they consider you a friend.



unfortunatly this is probably 100% true. boot/curb
why dont you ask your "friends" if they did her? I bet you already know the answer.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 8:26:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2005 8:29:43 AM EDT by LattimerII]
My girlfriends and my roommate's girlfriends have always pretty much come and gone as they pleased. Neither of us cares. Maybe it's sorta a Hugh Hefner mentality, but I kinda like all the girls in the house.

Edited to add: Damn just read the above. Screwing roomate's girlfriend is a big no no! Looky but no touchy!!

Hopefully that's not the reason.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 9:01:49 AM EDT
Scenario I.

Install numerous net cams in your house and link them to a new ar15.com forum entitled, "Gregs World"

Scenario II.

Hire some biker dudes to come over and pretend to be moving in. Room mates boogie and the bikers will probably take GF in payment. You can then start over with a clean slate.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 9:11:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By callgood:
Scenario I.

Install numerous net cams in your house and link them to a new ar15.com forum entitled, "Gregs World"


Scenario II.

Hire some biker dudes to come over and pretend to be moving in. Room mates boogie and the bikers will probably take GF in payment. You can then start over with a clean slate.



best idea ever!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 9:14:48 AM EDT
Clean_Cut lives
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 9:27:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1911greg:

Originally Posted By EPOCH96:
who's name is on the lease? Just yours or everyone?

ETA: just saw the bit about not having a lease agreement...  Fuck'm, if they don't like it they can move out!



The house is owned by my family I am the lease holder there is no roommate lease.

That may mean fuck all depending on your state law.  Evicting someone who is there legally, or illegally can be nigh on impossible.  I cannot describe how hard it is here.  My mother spent 6 hours with the prosecuting attorney yesterday trying to find a way to evict some people in her complex that have not paid rent in 7 months.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 9:56:09 AM EDT
i think there should be a limit to the amount of bitching that any one member can post about per month
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 10:02:07 AM EDT
Normally, I'd say it's your house, and fuck the dipshits who say otherwise, but to say that would be to miss a perfect opportunity to use the phrase

Bros before hos
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 10:08:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 11:24:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 12:08:44 PM EDT
Regardless of whether they paid rent on time (thats your call if you want to give them some slack in this area).  They didn't sign up for her to be making meals, and hanging out and sleeping there waiting for you to come home.  You being there for the MWF house play is one thing, her showing up and taking over the kitchen and living there those evenings is another.  

Sounds like its time for you and your girlfriend to either stop playing house or tell the roomates they need to find other residences and live on your own.  

I suspect you can't afford the place without roomates, or there wouldn't be an issue.  But even if you find new roomates this problem will come up again.

so you have three choices:

-Live alone and GF can come by at will

-Live with roomates and make sure GF doesn't come over without you being there.

-reduce the rent so the GF is essentially another roomate.  then she can come and go as she pleases and there is no issue.  
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 12:16:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Pistols at 20 paces.



axes at daybreak..
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 12:19:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By darwindog:
Regardless of whether they paid rent on time (thats your call if you want to give them some slack in this area).  They didn't sign up for her to be making meals, and hanging out and sleeping there waiting for you to come home.  You being there for the MWF house play is one thing, her showing up and taking over the kitchen and living there those evenings is another.  

Sounds like its time for you and your girlfriend to either stop playing house or tell the roomates they need to find other residences and live on your own.  

I suspect you can't afford the place without roomates, or there wouldn't be an issue.  But even if you find new roomates this problem will come up again.

so you have three choices:

-Live alone and GF can come by at will

-Live with roomates and make sure GF doesn't come over without you being there.

-reduce the rent so the GF is essentially another roomate.  then she can come and go as she pleases and there is no issue.  

-tell your gf to hit the road because shees psycho and doing your roommates



fixed
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 12:23:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GonzoAR15-1:
More drama from 1911Greg.


Are you sure you're not CLEANCUT?  




Yup... looking that way to me, too



 - georgestrings
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