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Posted: 4/20/2016 1:05:49 PM EDT
http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/bm59-world.aspx







I think APEX is getting kits as well.










Interesting cross design
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Sweet sweet rifle.
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Speaking of parts kits, been drooling over one of these
http://www.apexgunparts.com/parts-kits/polish-pkm-parts-kit-complete-good.html
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 1:12:28 PM EDT
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Don't tell Fluffy!
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Who wants antique equipment like that
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curious what end cost would be
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It is a shame they can't just sell the complete, unmolested rifle.

American gun control laws are strange because unlike the gun control in other Western countries gun owners in the US have fought back with effect. The banners have had to make due with restrictions that can fly in the political reality of the day, and these typically are the ones that have minimal effect on the majority of people, or else have less obvious effect up front. Bans on MGs for example, or import restrictions that are not a direct ban on ownership.

In France it is hard to become a gun owner but if you do SBRs and cans are easy to get. I don't think you can get FA but I doubt they have the silly MG receiver rules we have.
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initial reports suggests somewhere around $870.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 1:17:02 PM EDT
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I have one made off of a parts kit.

Great little rifle.

Great deal on the magazines as well.
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OST
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6000.00 project minimum

 
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I think APEX is getting kits as well.


http://youtu.be/2tRScj-cEJs



Interesting cross design
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Where can you get a receiver?
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http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/bm59-world.aspx
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http://youtu.be/2tRScj-cEJs
Interesting cross design





Where can you get a receiver?
SARCO is having them made.....I bet you can use an M1 Garand Receiver.

 
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 1:21:09 PM EDT
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at first i was thinking maybe a cheap semi auto .308... hmm..... then i saw $45 mags and was like meh.
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http://youtu.be/2tRScj-cEJs
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He said Beretter.

 
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Is there a company that can build them into a reliable semi auto? ~$6k isn't bad.
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Apparently,  These parts sets can be assembled on an M1 Garand receiver which will require a few modifications to accept the new feed system.

Not that I see how in depth the 'few' mods would be.
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Is there a company that can build them into a reliable semi auto? ~$6k isn't bad.
Project guns.

 



Maybe Marcomar can
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Maybe Marcomar can
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6000.00 project minimum  



Is there a company that can build them into a reliable semi auto? ~$6k isn't bad.
Project guns.    

Maybe Marcomar can



lol 6K..

Should wait on the Binary AK trigger to come out, buy a few drums and pay a lot less for an RPK clone
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Now I gotta find $500!
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Speaking of parts kits, been drooling over one of these

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6000.00 project minimum  






Is there a company that can build them into a reliable semi auto? ~$6k isn't bad.




 
Just buy a built one.




http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=553357871
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 1:40:31 PM EDT
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Tim Shufflin builds these.

http://shuffsparkerizing.com/bm59-program/
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Says the guy with a 1911 as his avatar, but you were being sarcastic weren't you?  

I would want a BM59 even for its later trade value.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 1:47:24 PM EDT
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Something's fucky.

I don't see the muzzle device or the bipod, which really give the BM59 its look.

I really wish I'd bought one of the SA guns back in the 80s.
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Yep. Needs barrel and custom machines parts plus welding experience or work done. That adds up.
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I don't see the muzzle device or the bipod, which really give the BM59 its look.

I really wish I'd bought one of the SA guns back in the 80s.
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Go to Page 2.  You want the Italian BM-59 kits, not the BM-59E.
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Go to Page 2.  You want the Italian BM-59 kits, not the BM-59E.
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I don't see the muzzle device or the bipod, which really give the BM59 its look.

I really wish I'd bought one of the SA guns back in the 80s.


Go to Page 2.  You want the Italian BM-59 kits, not the BM-59E.

Thanks.

Wonder what the bore looks like.
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So does Tony the garand guy. www.garandguy.com  I have the E model, and would like to get the Italian or Alpine model.
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I have a 59e and two BM 59 paracudisti...



Great rifles!
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Tim Shufflin builds superb rifles. I sent him a sad-looking Rack Grade M1 Garand for his "CMP Special" - he reparked the entire rifle, did a trigger job, recrowned the muzzle, and shipped it back to me for $178. I installed it in a USGI stock set I had on-hand, and here's how it looks now:









I plan on having him build me a BM59 soon.
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I have a factory Beretta box for the 59/62.....found it at the swap meet....had a folding stock in it when I found it....stock is looooong gone

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Thanks ARFCOM for, once again, finding expensive things that I never knew I needed until now.



A BM-59 is worth saving up for!
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Wonder what the bore looks like.
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I don't see the muzzle device or the bipod, which really give the BM59 its look.

I really wish I'd bought one of the SA guns back in the 80s.


Go to Page 2.  You want the Italian BM-59 kits, not the BM-59E.

Thanks.

Wonder what the bore looks like.

Exciting news is that this .308 rifle parts set is in our warehouse and can be yours! Considered a fabulous rifle with features of ‘ easy take down’ and handling ,that surpass the M1 Garand & M14 ! This is considered the best of the Italian ‘BM’ rifle series and comes complete with bipod and grenade launcher/ Tri-compensator flash hider. Many professional shooters say that the Tri-compensator on this rifle is the best and most effective around! The barrel does not come with the kit, but we should have some new .308 barrels soon! A 20 rd. magazine does come with this kit. There are a number of companies applying a conversion to the Garand receivers to make them BM59 receivers, so having a gun kit built into a firearm is a reality! As a special introductory thank you, we have included a free sling! BM59 ITAL Parts Set
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Shuff's Parkerizing and Standard Parts LLC are your friend.  Start with a $400 kit, purchase a $225 new US made barrel from Std Parts, get a stripped Garand receiver for $300 and Tim Shufflin will finish the job (full machining, refinishing and labor) for $725.  That's $1650 total and competes favorably price wise with an M1A.

BM59s are my new favorite since the start of this year.  The tricompensator is extremely effective.  Watch the very limited muzzle rise.

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I saw one of these at an lgs just a few days ago going for a shade over $1400.
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Be careful of pedigree.  Some have been put together in the past with welded receivers.
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Be careful of pedigree.  Some have been put together in the past with welded receivers.


That's good to know.

It caught my eye because it was unusual, but it was labeled as a "Winchester" instead of an Italian gun.
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DAT muzzle flash...



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Speaking of parts kits, been drooling over one of these
http://www.apexgunparts.com/parts-kits/polish-pkm-parts-kit-complete-good.html
6000.00 project minimum  



Is there a company that can build them into a reliable semi auto? ~$6k isn't bad.

  Just buy a built one.


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=553357871


Know if those are built well? I want one that I can shoot the crap out of, maybe pintle mounted to a side by side for hog slaying.
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Something's fucky.

I don't see the muzzle device or the bipod, which really give the BM59 its look.

I really wish I'd bought one of the SA guns back in the 80s.


Go to Page 2.  You want the Italian BM-59 kits, not the BM-59E.

Thanks.

Wonder what the bore looks like.


Thanks to Obama, like with all other parts kits, they're chopping the barrels. Sad.
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Thanks saigamanTX!



Apex, stand by for incoming funds.
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lol 6K..

Should wait on the Binary AK trigger to come out, buy a few drums and pay a lot less for an RPK clone
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http://www.apexgunparts.com/parts-kits/polish-pkm-parts-kit-complete-good.html
6000.00 project minimum  



Is there a company that can build them into a reliable semi auto? ~$6k isn't bad.
Project guns.    

Maybe Marcomar can



lol 6K..

Should wait on the Binary AK trigger to come out, buy a few drums and pay a lot less for an RPK clone


If x54r were still under $0.15, I would have a pkm built, then shoot it until the front falls off to save $$$ in the long run at $.07 per round savings.
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Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:54:16 PM EDT
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Sarco has barrels. (and has had kits for awhile. )
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Thanks to Obama, like with all other parts kits, they're chopping the barrels. Sad.
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Something's fucky.

I don't see the muzzle device or the bipod, which really give the BM59 its look.

I really wish I'd bought one of the SA guns back in the 80s.


Go to Page 2.  You want the Italian BM-59 kits, not the BM-59E.

Thanks.

Wonder what the bore looks like.


Thanks to Obama, like with all other parts kits, they're chopping the barrels. Sad.


Yeah. I knew about the reinterpretation of the 68 GCA. I'd hoped Sarco had "found" these in their warehouse like they've been known to do in the past.

They must be including M1 bbls with the 59e models.
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Hmm  I've got a Garand receiver sitting in my safe.
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I have 2 "Returned from Paraguay" grade barrelled receivers, 2 full M1 parts kits, 2 Korean return stocks, and an 18" .308 barrel.

Should I get the kit, or just buy the parts I need?
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looks like some of these kits just popped up at Centerfire also...

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/kit-bm59.aspx

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Didn't that start under Bush?
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