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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:32:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:36:11 PM EDT
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Front fell off.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:36:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:38:02 PM EDT
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Front fell off. basically |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:39:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:41:12 PM EDT
[#5]
damn
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:43:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Can't help but wonder what size crane will be needed to get the crane on the right out of that hole?
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:47:10 PM EDT
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It is a perfect socialist plan, now they need several more cranes. More jobs.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:47:11 PM EDT
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Que paso?
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:47:37 PM EDT
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Why were the cranes off to the side and not in line with the beam?
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:48:16 PM EDT
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Why were the cranes off to the side and not in line with the beam? You question the worker's paradise? |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:48:41 PM EDT
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Guy in the close crane is lucky he didn't take the full ride.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:48:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't help but wonder what size crane will be needed to get the crane on the right out of that hole? Of course, being Venezuela, they'll probably use a bigger crane and try to pick it up all at once and have that one fall in.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:49:21 PM EDT
[#13]
That's not gonna buff out.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:49:50 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why were the cranes off to the side and not in line with the beam? |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:50:13 PM EDT
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Do you even lift, bro?
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:54:08 PM EDT
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Looks like there will be no erections as planned.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:54:33 PM EDT
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Why were the cranes off to the side and not in line with the beam? they read the charts wrong; looks like they couldn't setup the way they should, and went out of range when they started swinging the load; sucks to be a commie,,,,,, 
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING SAFETY ENGINEER TELLLING US WHAT (not) TO DO!!!!!! |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:56:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Damnit Jose!
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Posted: 12/14/2013 2:59:58 PM EDT
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Oops.... Looks painful.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:00:30 PM EDT
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Is there any such thing as a crane having a direct cable remote for operators to stand outside of it and operate?
Not just for safety, but for them to have a better prospective on what they're doing, than being isolated in the cab at tough to see angles. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:01:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Id need some clean underwear after that ride
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:13:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Closest crane looks to be a 235 ton Leibherr, but farther crane looks to be a 60 ton or so Grove.
The 60 ton was out of chart and sucked the bigger 235 in with it. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:16:00 PM EDT
[#23]
Third world problems.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:16:51 PM EDT
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Why were the cranes off to the side and not in line with the beam? They don't understand center of gravity over center of support, apparently. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:19:24 PM EDT
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gonna be a real bitch getting the operator out of the dangler.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:19:54 PM EDT
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Why were the cranes off to the side and not in line with the beam? They had to make the pick from where the piece was assembled, (I'm assuming it was too big to bring in on a truck.) and then place it in it's final position. The safe thing to do is to err on the side of caution and set up closer to the final position of the piece, than the original pick point.. That way, if you do exceed the capacity of the cranes involved you can't actually lift it as opposed to dumping two cranes into the hole when you exceed the capacity of either crane. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:20:21 PM EDT
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People hate OSHA..including myself, but occasionally there are times....
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:22:53 PM EDT
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People hate OSHA..including myself, but occasionally there are times.... Yeah that state controlled construction project would have been a lot better if the state controlled it. Seriously though, *everyone* pays for the damage done in that crash. Here, the *company* would have had to pay. For this reason, the managers have a massive incentive to prevent it from happening. Bureaucrats have no incentive to stop it. The market is superior to central planning in every way. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:23:53 PM EDT
[#29]
Yeah that was crazy. Easy to say it's a typical South American Charlie Foxtrot but we have had plenty of those in the US as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyM9IEkihhU (Fast forward to minute 6, I am learning how to imbed now, sorry for the sucky skilz) This one isn't nearly as spectacular in video but this particular crane I have seen up close and personal before and after the wreck. It was work being done at a Petrochem or Refinery in Houston and those places have the most restrictive and carefully administrated safety protocols in any industry. This accident killed both the crane operator on the giant crane and the boom fell on the cab of a smaller (500 Ton? small…….) tender crane next to it. Heavy industry is dangerous. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:27:26 PM EDT
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Yeah that state controlled construction project would have been a lot better if the state controlled it. Seriously though, *everyone* pays for the damage done in that crash. Here, the *company* would have had to pay. For this reason, the managers have a massive incentive to prevent it from happening. Bureaucrats have no incentive to stop it. The market is superior to central planning in every way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People hate OSHA..including myself, but occasionally there are times.... Yeah that state controlled construction project would have been a lot better if the state controlled it. Seriously though, *everyone* pays for the damage done in that crash. Here, the *company* would have had to pay. For this reason, the managers have a massive incentive to prevent it from happening. Bureaucrats have no incentive to stop it. The market is superior to central planning in every way. True...maybe it's just the internet being world wide that these problems seem to be larger than they are. All I noticed is that I've seen far more of these incidents in other countries than I've seen here. But as I said, it could be the internet blowing it up to be bigger than it is. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:27:50 PM EDT
[#31]
I wonder if the crane operators bailed when they heard the pop.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:29:38 PM EDT
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Gravity is a Bitch.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:31:37 PM EDT
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Gravity is a Bitch. This! |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:34:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there any such thing as a crane having a direct cable remote for operators to stand outside of it and operate? Not just for safety, but for them to have a better prospective on what they're doing, than being isolated in the cab at tough to see angles. I had a remote for the crane on my Heavy Wrecker, but I've never seen one used on a large crane (some have remotes that are used for rigging up/down the crane) The Rigger calls the lift, they have a better eye on what's going on and will give the operator(s) commands. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:34:41 PM EDT
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They'll have to order the crane companies to sell them below cost now.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:34:44 PM EDT
[#36]
Looks like someone didn't accurately read the load chart in the crane on the left. As the operator boomed down he went out of the safe radius. When his crane failed it shock loaded the closer crane on the right.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:38:16 PM EDT
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Looks like someone didn't accurately read the load chart in the crane on the left. As the operator boomed down he went out of the safe radius. When his crane failed it shock loaded the closer crane on the right. Wondered if you would post here 
or the ground didn't support the outrigger, but I agree, he boomed down to far. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:38:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Damn
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:47:33 PM EDT
[#39]
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Wondered if you would post here
or the ground didn't support the outrigger, but I agree, he boomed down to far. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like someone didn't accurately read the load chart in the crane on the left. As the operator boomed down he went out of the safe radius. When his crane failed it shock loaded the closer crane on the right. Wondered if you would post here
or the ground didn't support the outrigger, but I agree, he boomed down to far. Of course! People tend to underestimate how quickly the load capacity drops off as you boom down in a mobile crane. You would think that for a big two crane lift like that they would have left a bigger margin for error. |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 3:59:28 PM EDT
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Shit boy fuck'in howdy what a ride
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:16:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:21:49 PM EDT
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Que paso? Spanish for "the front fell off" |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:22:48 PM EDT
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It looks like an outrigger on the crane on the left let go/punched through.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:28:30 PM EDT
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I wonder if anyone on the entire crew knew what the tonnage on the lift was???
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:31:32 PM EDT
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Can't help but wonder what size crane will be needed to get the crane on the right out of that hole? 
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:34:56 PM EDT
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They failed to grasp the gravity of the situation.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:36:33 PM EDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyM9IEkihhU (Fast forward to minute 6, I am learning how to imbed now, sorry for the sucky skilz) Here you go. 
And then there's the Miller Park "Big Blue" collapse from 1999. 
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:43:51 PM EDT
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Physics is a cold hearted mistress.
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:52:05 PM EDT
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Physics is a cold hearted mistress. All this science I don't understand It's just my job five days a week |
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Posted: 12/14/2013 4:52:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Closest crane looks to be a 235 ton Leibherr, but farther crane looks to be a 60 ton or so Grove. The 60 ton was out of chart and sucked the bigger 235 in with it. Outrigger on the far crane sank into the ground causing accident |
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