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Posted: 6/25/2015 10:22:24 PM EDT
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy will be held accountable for the federal land grazing fees and penalties he owes, a top federal official said.

Bundy became a national figure in April 2014 when he and scores of supporters got into an armed standoff with federal law enforcement officers over his cattle’s years of alleged unpaid grazing on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property.

Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, whose department includes the BLM, says Bundy will eventually have to answer for what he owes the federal government, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

“Cliven Bundy has had multiple court orders to remove his cattle from federal public lands and he has not paid his grazing fees and he has not abided by the law,” Jewell told the Review-Journal Wednesday on a visit to Incline Village, Nev., where she spoke at a Western Governors’ Association event.

“We will continue to pursue that,” she said.

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http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246103-cliven-bundy-will-be-held-accountable-interior-secretary-says


Sally Jewell
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Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy will be held accountable for the federal land grazing fees and penalties he owes, a top federal official said.

Bundy became a national figure in April 2014 when he and scores of supporters got into an armed standoff with federal law enforcement officers over his cattle’s years of alleged unpaid grazing on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property.

Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, whose department includes the BLM, says Bundy will eventually have to answer for what he owes the federal government, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

“Cliven Bundy has had multiple court orders to remove his cattle from federal public lands and he has not paid his grazing fees and he has not abided by the law,” Jewell told the Review-Journal Wednesday on a visit to Incline Village, Nev., where she spoke at a Western Governors’ Association event.

“We will continue to pursue that,” she said.

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http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246103-cliven-bundy-will-be-held-accountable-interior-secretary-says

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Good God!  

The misfits and outcasts have taken over all of the govt!
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:24:40 PM EDT
I guess Mr Bundy will be doing all his business in cash for the foreseeable future.

Also Sally's got the crazy eyes.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:26:24 PM EDT
That thing looks like Sam Waterston in drag.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:26:43 PM EDT
Vindictive gargoyle will ensure he is hounded until death.  Then his dependents or estate, if any, will pay.





eta That is one odd looking duck.

Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:28:05 PM EDT
Maybe we could sick her on Sharpton next.

Or all the IRS employees that owe back taxes?

Too bad they pissed all that money away on Solyndra,etc,etc...........


Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:30:08 PM EDT
He deserves whatever he gets for talking those crazy hippies into killing innocent people to incite a race war.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:30:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:32:12 PM EDT
If he sets up a fundme site he will be good


 



The gov will settle for $500k
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:36:15 PM EDT
If 5000 people donate $100 he will have half
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:38:15 PM EDT
I can't understand why Bundy is a folk hero.  He is a thief.  He is making lots of money off the land the government owns which we all are able to use.  All of us can go hunt it, camp on it, etc. for no cost (state licenses may add some) paid to the federal government.   So why should he be able operate a business on it to make a profit without ponying up a use fee.  The timber companies buy the timber, as they should, when they log National Forest lands.  

The people who say the government shouldn't own any western lands must not know what a posted sign is.  If it was private none of us would be able to set foot on it.  Has Bundy opened up his ranch to hunters for no trespass fee, just come on by?  Doubt it.
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If 5000 people donate $100, Bundy will get rich off of idiots.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:44:22 PM EDT
I'm more concerned with if the person who decided that "First Amendment areas" were good to go is going to be held accountable.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:46:21 PM EDT
Nasty fucking bitch.

Probably drives a Prius.  She is the poster child of what's wrong with this country.

Cartridge box time yet?

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Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy will be held accountable for the federal land grazing fees and penalties he owes, a top federal official said.

Bundy became a national figure in April 2014 when he and scores of supporters got into an armed standoff with federal law enforcement officers over his cattle’s years of alleged unpaid grazing on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property.

Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, whose department includes the BLM, says Bundy will eventually have to answer for what he owes the federal government, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

“Cliven Bundy has had multiple court orders to remove his cattle from federal public lands and he has not paid his grazing fees and he has not abided by the law,” Jewell told the Review-Journal Wednesday on a visit to Incline Village, Nev., where she spoke at a Western Governors’ Association event.

“We will continue to pursue that,” she said.

...

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246103-cliven-bundy-will-be-held-accountable-interior-secretary-says

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.sPClT8dBsiIXvg5%2bjP1BEA&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
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Good God!  

The misfits and outcasts have taken over all of the govt!



That was my first thought as well.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:48:22 PM EDT
Hadnt he been trying to pay them for years and the blm wouldnt accept his payment?
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:50:19 PM EDT
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I can't understand why Bundy is a folk hero.  He is a thief.  He is making lots of money off the land the government owns which we all are able to use.  All of us can go hunt it, camp on it, etc. for no cost (state licenses may add some) paid to the federal government.   So why should he be able operate a business on it to make a profit without ponying up a use fee.  The timber companies buy the timber, as they should, when they log National Forest lands.  

The people who say the government shouldn't own any western lands must not know what a posted sign is.  If it was private none of us would be able to set foot on it.  Has Bundy opened up his ranch to hunters for no trespass fee, just come on by?  Doubt it.
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Uh no.  That's the narrative as told by the .gov.  They forget to mention that they changed the rules and wanted him to accept a herd a fraction the size of the one his family has raised for generations and that Bundy, not the .gov, owns the water rights to all that BLM land.
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I can't understand why Bundy is a folk hero.  He is a thief.  He is making lots of money off the land the government owns which we all are able to use.  All of us can go hunt it, camp on it, etc. for no cost (state licenses may add some) paid to the federal government.   So why should he be able operate a business on it to make a profit without ponying up a use fee.  The timber companies buy the timber, as they should, when they log National Forest lands.  

The people who say the government shouldn't own any western lands must not know what a posted sign is.  If it was private none of us would be able to set foot on it.  Has Bundy opened up his ranch to hunters for no trespass fee, just come on by?  Doubt it.
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Because his cattle graze otherwise worthless fucking scrub land. We should be subsidizing him not charging him.   We subsidize farmers NOT to farm but Bundy is a thief.  
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:02:19 PM EDT
This will be ruby ridge 2.0. Watch.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:02:31 PM EDT
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No.  He tried to pay either the county or the state, and they declined to accept his money because the lease isn't with them.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:09:28 PM EDT
Their land their rules
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Uh no.  That's the narrative as told by the .gov.  They forget to mention that they changed the rules and wanted him to accept a herd a fraction the size of the one his family has raised for generations and that Bundy, not the .gov, owns the water rights to all that BLM land.
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I can't understand why Bundy is a folk hero.  He is a thief.  He is making lots of money off the land the government owns which we all are able to use.  All of us can go hunt it, camp on it, etc. for no cost (state licenses may add some) paid to the federal government.   So why should he be able operate a business on it to make a profit without ponying up a use fee.  The timber companies buy the timber, as they should, when they log National Forest lands.  

The people who say the government shouldn't own any western lands must not know what a posted sign is.  If it was private none of us would be able to set foot on it.  Has Bundy opened up his ranch to hunters for no trespass fee, just come on by?  Doubt it.


Uh no.  That's the narrative as told by the .gov.  They forget to mention that they changed the rules and wanted him to accept a herd a fraction the size of the one his family has raised for generations and that Bundy, not the .gov, owns the water rights to all that BLM land.



Aren't those two separate issues?  

What is it about this guy's situation that led to the confrontation?

The overall impression I have is that it was 1/3 stubborn dude, 1/3 stubborn government officials, and 1/3 rallying point.

I've never really got why this was a rallying point.

Not saying it shouldn't have been.  I just don't see why.



Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:22:24 PM EDT


Sure, I see where she is coming from.







What could possibly go wrong???






Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:25:51 PM EDT
and yet   Hillary is still innocent
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:32:11 PM EDT
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The misfits and outcasts have taken over all of the govt!
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Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy will be held accountable for the federal land grazing fees and penalties he owes, a top federal official said.

Bundy became a national figure in April 2014 when he and scores of supporters got into an armed standoff with federal law enforcement officers over his cattle’s years of alleged unpaid grazing on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property.

Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, whose department includes the BLM, says Bundy will eventually have to answer for what he owes the federal government, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

“Cliven Bundy has had multiple court orders to remove his cattle from federal public lands and he has not paid his grazing fees and he has not abided by the law,” Jewell told the Review-Journal Wednesday on a visit to Incline Village, Nev., where she spoke at a Western Governors’ Association event.

“We will continue to pursue that,” she said.

...

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246103-cliven-bundy-will-be-held-accountable-interior-secretary-says

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.sPClT8dBsiIXvg5%2bjP1BEA&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
Sally Jewell


Good God!  

The misfits and outcasts have taken over all of the govt!


And here we have a poster who discovered feminism.

Link Posted: 6/25/2015 11:35:27 PM EDT
The real question is, Sally. Why does the govt have rules for one set of States that the others don't have to abide? We had something like this in the South, called Jim Crow.


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I was just gonna say -

Judging by the way they've held Hillary, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Lisa Jackson or Katherine Archuleta  "accountable" - They probably don't even know what the word  means...
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 1:24:51 AM EDT
holy shit the liberals got some fugly women in office.  holy moses.
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 1:40:34 AM EDT

“Climate change is visible at national parks across the country, but this report underscores the economic importance of cutting carbon pollution and making public lands more resilient to its dangerous impacts,” said Secretary Jewell. “Through sound science and collaboration, we will use this research to help protect some of America’s most iconic places – from the Statue of Liberty to Golden Gate and from the Redwoods to Cape Hatteras – that are at risk from climate change.”
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 1:44:26 AM EDT


Nothing more disturbing than a cross eyed lesbian Statist.





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I can't understand why Bundy is a folk hero.  He is a thief.  He is making lots of money off the land the government owns which we all are able to use.  All of us can go hunt it, camp on it, etc. for no cost (state licenses may add some) paid to the federal government.   So why should he be able operate a business on it to make a profit without ponying up a use fee.  The timber companies buy the timber, as they should, when they log National Forest lands.  

The people who say the government shouldn't own any western lands must not know what a posted sign is.  If it was private none of us would be able to set foot on it.  Has Bundy opened up his ranch to hunters for no trespass fee, just come on by?  Doubt it.
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His cattle are grazing useless fucking scrub land and yes i am free to go hunt almost all of that land if there was mucb of anything to hunt there, suppose i could get some small game along the river. The blm is also trying to charge him grazing fees based on arial surveys when there are farrell cattle in the area from ranchers that just abandoned the area when blm fucked them. They are trying to strongarm him in to just leaving probably for some pet project of one of reids cronies. its fucked up they spent millions to send in armed agents for a fucking cattle round up.
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 1:52:37 AM EDT
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Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy will be held accountable for the federal land grazing fees and penalties he owes, a top federal official said.

Bundy became a national figure in April 2014 when he and scores of supporters got into an armed standoff with federal law enforcement officers over his cattle’s years of alleged unpaid grazing on Bureau of Land Management (BLM) property.

Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, whose department includes the BLM, says Bundy will eventually have to answer for what he owes the federal government, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

“Cliven Bundy has had multiple court orders to remove his cattle from federal public lands and he has not paid his grazing fees and he has not abided by the law,” Jewell told the Review-Journal Wednesday on a visit to Incline Village, Nev., where she spoke at a Western Governors’ Association event.

“We will continue to pursue that,” she said.

...

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246103-cliven-bundy-will-be-held-accountable-interior-secretary-says

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.sPClT8dBsiIXvg5%2bjP1BEA&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0
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Sally Jewell FIFY
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 1:55:48 AM EDT
In before a bunch of easterners that know everything about everything in the western states chime in.
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They were pretty hilarious in the other thread.
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Nothing more disturbing than a cross eyed lesbian Statist.





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Link Posted: 6/26/2015 2:18:26 AM EDT
They just need to start shooting cattle grazing in unauthorized areas.    Fuck Bundy.








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WTF are u talking about?
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 2:24:06 AM EDT
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Roy Scheider

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WTF are u talking about?
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WTF are u talking about?

I think he is trying to make a serial killer joke but has Ted Bundy and Charles Manson confused.
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 2:31:51 AM EDT
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Have you been out there? the land is worthless
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 2:34:24 AM EDT
The reason the feds own so much of Nevada is because nobody wants it. You would literally lose money paying the taxes on it



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Link Posted: 6/26/2015 2:38:50 AM EDT
Twilight Zone.
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Have you been out there? the land is worthless

There are some cattle so far from his ranch along the river unbranded and the numbers he claims are nowhere near the numbers blm says are out there. If they were really such a problem they could just round up or eliminate the ferrell ones but frankly they are beneficial to the environment. Its all about getting him off the land
Link Posted: 6/26/2015 2:54:12 AM EDT
yeah, and there were originally something like 25 families that came from Utah with the Bundys (Mormons) now there's only the Bundy clan and maybe one smaller outfit. Clive refuses to pay the BLM, He says the BLM ran those other families out of business and they're trying to run him out as well...
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Have you been out there? the land is worthless

If it's so worthless then why does he need to use it?
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If it's so worthless then why does he need to use it?
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Have you been out there? the land is worthless

If it's so worthless then why does he need to use it?


Government owns about 85% of Nevada.  



A huge track of marginal land still has grazing value, but only if you don't have to buy it, and pay taxes on it.  

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No

He pretended to try to pay Clark county for it, they returned his payment because they don't own the land.
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What could possibly go wrong???


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"IN!" gif material right there
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What could possibly go wrong???


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LOL.at least he's already crippled
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