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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:52:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/8/2008 6:46:53 PM EST by Evil_ATF]
So...who's arbitrarily raising prices on November 5th and who's not?
Attention consumer. To review the claims made against a vendor in the "Raised Prices On Nov. 5th" list, simply click on their name. You must draw your own conclusions as to whether or not the claims against a vendor constitute an arbitrary price increase/attempt at a fast buck. If you are providing information on a "gouger", please make your claims as detailed as possible. Links would be great. If you are nominating a Good Guy, simply post their name and web address. Good Guys are those who did not arbitrarily raise their prices on November 5th due to election hype. Any questions, please ask. Companies That Raised Prices Signifigantly On November 5th, 2008 Buds Gun Shop Cheaper Than Dirt CTD has been the worst of the worst thus far...by far. Cold War Shooters Dynamic Armament SOG Armory Spikes Tactical Companies That Did Not "Jack Up" The Prices Post-Election 44Mag.Com ADCO AIM Surplus Ammunition To Go Anvil Arms Apex ODT Area 51 Tactical Bass Pro Shop Bravo Company Bright Flashlights Brownells Carricoz Armory CDNN Centerfire Systems Classic Arms Conversion Caliber Supply Copes Distributing C Products Del-Ton Dillon Precision Express Police Supply Dennys Guns Georgia Arms J&T Distributing Larue Tactical Life, Liberty, Etc. Midway USA Midwest Industries MilSurp Stuff My Go Time Gear Natchez Shooter Supply Noveske Old Grouch Military Surplus Palmetto State Armory PK Firearms Rainer Arms Sportsmans Guide Tapco Wideners |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:53:02 AM EST
Cheaper Than Dirt can go fuck themselves.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=783335 |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:54:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
Cheaper Than Dirt can go fuck themselves. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=783335 Holy shit! I was just about to submit a $500 order for chest mag rigs, gun bags and ammo. I'm glad I saw that before giving them my cash. 
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:54:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
Cheaper Than Dirt can go fuck themselves. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=783335 Sonofabitch... C-Products said they won't raise prices. 
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:55:29 AM EST
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:55:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 10:55:51 AM EST by krpind]
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it.
BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. 
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:55:38 AM EST
Holy shit! No such thing as price gouging –– only whiners with regards to how private businesses conduct their business.
  
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MN, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:56:58 AM EST
Price Gouging? Grow the fuck up.
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:57:46 AM EST
it is economics and you can vote with your wallet
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:58:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Procyon:
Holy shit! No such thing as price gouging –– only whiners with regards to how private businesses conduct their business. The free market also dictates that people can take their dollars elsewhere. (no dog in this fight but it works both ways... ) |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:58:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. It's all good! I'm a down home Capitalist boy, myself. I'm starting this thread to help others like me make informed buying decisions in a free market economy. Just gathering information with which to vote with our wallets. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 10:59:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. No shit. Everybody loves capitalism until they see somebody actually try and make a profit. Then they wonder how they got a socialist President. But don't worry, Obama will take all their gains and redistribute it to poor folks. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:00:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. It's all good! I'm a down home Capitalist boy, myself. I'm starting this thread to help others like me make informed buying decisions in a free market economy. Just gathering information with which to vote with our wallets. No, you are staring a black list. If you were trying to help the consumer you'd be here with a link to the guy with the best prices. I recommend CDNN, good folks, good prices. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:01:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. It's all good! I'm a down home Capitalist boy, myself. I'm starting this thread to help others like me make informed buying decisions in a free market economy. Just gathering information with which to vote with our wallets. Thanks for making us aware of the bastards trying to rape us. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:02:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Svengali:
No, you are staring a black list. If you were trying to help the consumer you'd be here with a link to the guy with the best prices. I recommend CDNN, good folks, good prices. Shrug. Tomatoe, tomato. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:03:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. Hence the purpose of this thread Einstein. [:// Inform us as to who is taking advantage of the election results and allow us to redirect our dollars to other vendors. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:04:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 11:05:51 AM EST by Grunteled]
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. Oh give a rest already. I don't see any windfall taxes being proposed here or state AGs being called. But when you own website tells people with glee that you are bringing them savings of -51% then some laughing at you may be in order. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:04:55 AM EST
To all the free market champions...
Nobody (that I have heard) is saying what they are doing should be illegal or regulated. So lay off the rhetoric. They made a choice, and now we get to make a choice with our wallets. Calm down, we all still love capitalism. Jeesh 
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:07:23 AM EST
put spikes on the list por favor
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:07:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 11:09:25 AM EST by Nick29]
Originally Posted By Procyon:
Holy shit! No such thing as price gouging –– only whiners with regards to how private businesses conduct their business. price gouging: pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/price%20gouging Noone is advocating having the government force them to lower their prices. But, the fact that they've increased prices of a lot of items by over 50% is a dick move. As consumers in a free country, we're well within our rights to keep track of these types of things and avoid retailers who do them ETA: if you don't have a problem with it, feel free to pay $40 for something from CTD that you could buy at midway for $25. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:08:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By Svengali:
No, you are staring a black list. If you were trying to help the consumer you'd be here with a link to the guy with the best prices. I recommend CDNN, good folks, good prices. Shrug. Tomatoe, tomato. Just trying to be positive. If a person is selling Glock mags for $40, that sorta corrects itself. You wanna make things better, send the people to the right place. CDNN has G17 mags for $21.99 or $12.99 used. 1-800-588-9500 |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:12:58 AM EST
Originally Posted By Svengali:
Just trying to be positive. If a person is selling Glock mags for $40, that sorta corrects itself. You wanna make things better, send the people to the right place. CDNN has G17 mags for $21.99 or $12.99 used. 1-800-588-9500 I do want to make things better. I can't possibly keep track of all of the vendors who are not "gouging". We can, however, let people know who to avoid. That list will be substantially smaller. Hell: I'm not even saying to avoid these vendors. I'm just giving people a thread to make their own informed decisions, per the links that I'll update in the OP. If anyone wants to list people in this thread who have good pricing the, by all means, list them. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:14:24 AM EST
"-51"
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:14:53 AM EST
the tech help guy in the bottom right someone with superior photoshopping skills, make it a surprize buttsecks picture NOW! |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:15:15 AM EST
You guys are a bunch of whiny bitches.
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:17:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By Svengali:
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By Svengali:
No, you are staring a black list. If you were trying to help the consumer you'd be here with a link to the guy with the best prices. I recommend CDNN, good folks, good prices. Shrug. Tomatoe, tomato. Just trying to be positive. If a person is selling Glock mags for $40, that sorta corrects itself. You wanna make things better, send the people to the right place. CDNN has G17 mags for $21.99 or $12.99 used. 1-800-588-9500 After a hi-cap ban we will be PRAYING for the days when mags costed $40. I bought a pre-ban Glock mag for $72 before 2004. Thought it was a pretty good deal at the time. I didn't even get pissed when the ban expired and I could buy 10 more for $12.99 apiece. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:18:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By Svengali:
Everybody loves capitalism until they see somebody actually try and make a profit. Then they wonder how they got a socialist President. But don't worry, Obama will take all their gains and redistribute it to poor folks. QFT! |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:18:15 AM EST
 good stuff!
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:18:18 AM EST
Hehe, look at the List price...negative savings LOL.
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:19:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By Hanzerik:
Hehe, look at the List price...negative savings LOL. yeah, someone didn't really do themselves a favor with that one |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:19:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By Svengali:
If anyone wants to list people in this thread who have good pricing the, by all means, list them. MidwayUSA doesn't seem to have jacked up their prices overnight |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:21:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By ORinTX:
You guys are a bunch of whiny bitches. There is a difference between being a whiny bitch, and having a legitimate reason to bail on dealers who'll screw you over given the first chance. Nothing wrong with having a list of which ones will fuck you given the opportunity. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:22:08 AM EST
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:23:00 AM EST
44mag... 10% price increase within minutes of the election being called. FUCK THEM!
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:23:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 11:28:10 AM EST by DriftPunch]
Originally Posted By Torf:
After a hi-cap ban we will be PRAYING for the days when mags costed $40. I bought a pre-ban Glock mag for $72 before 2004. Thought it was a pretty good deal at the time. I didn't even get pissed when the ban expired and I could buy 10 more for $12.99 apiece. I purchased 4 Aluminum G3 Mags for $40 EACH (in the darkest days of the ban)! Last year, they were $3 a pop... If the AWB sunset clause was struck, I would have thought I was a genius for finding them. All decisions have a degree of risk. Some arfcommers don't understand supply and demand, even though they loved it when trucks & SUVs got really cheap over the last two years. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:24:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
44mag... 10% price increase within minutes of the election being called. FUCK THEM! that was due to the ending of the pre-election sale. not shananigans |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:25:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 11:27:22 AM EST by cbrooks]
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
So...who's price gouging and how? I'm making a list and checking it twice... 1. Cheaper Than Dirt 2. Spikes Tactical Thanks for the heads up. I was about to order some P-mags,holsters and some shotgun goodies. In times like these it's nice to see folks looking out for their countrymen. 
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:27:02 AM EST
In before the apologists.
OH WAIT 
Either way, by doing this and giving a big "fuck you", we are forcing them to lower their prices. We as buyers are telling them that their products are too expensive by avoiding what is in demand. Yeah, there is demand for a given product, at that price? no. Here is where you will see a place like C-products make a killing- as they have promised their base that they will NOT fuck them in the ass, the demand is going to go insane, though they will have backorders, they will have a steady supply of customers, and will most likely reach the 'brand insistence" stage of brand loyalty. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:32:05 AM EST
Telling us who has your panties in a twist doesn't help.
If you want to do something useful, do something like the Ammo List - link to the best pricing currently available for groups of products. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:32:34 AM EST
Holy shit! That's expensive. The fun store here in town is kind of expensive, but they have 7.62x39 Wolf for $4.99, box of 20. That was last week, I'm going over there in about an hour and see if the price is the same. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:33:17 AM EST
How do I order from C-products?
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:37:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By rob78:
Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
44mag... 10% price increase within minutes of the election being called. FUCK THEM! that was due to the ending of the pre-election sale. not shananigans This. I saw 44Mag's sale in the EE. It was on the up and up. In fact, he did the community quite the solid by holding the sale when he did. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:38:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
LOL....don't like the price, don't buy it. BUT if you really think it is too high and think you can do it better, open your own store. Don't want consumers to bitch and moan on public forums about you raising prices in the midst of a fearful political climate? Then don't raise prices. Works both ways. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:38:28 AM EST
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:39:06 AM EST
Noveske has raised prices as well.
Pre election N4 upper was $895 now it is $945 |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:39:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 11:40:01 AM EST by armoredsaint]
Originally Posted By ORinTX:
You guys are a bunch of whiny bitches. +1, it's a fucking free market...maybe Obama will distribute free ammo to the needy 
add AIM Surplus to the good guys |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:40:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2008 11:41:40 AM EST by Lakeguy]
Top Gun Supply. G 17 mags are running $ 26.98.
+1 to Aimsurplus for the good guys list. I just ordered 1K of Wolf at the same price as yesterday. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:40:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By rob78:
Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
44mag... 10% price increase within minutes of the election being called. FUCK THEM! that was due to the ending of the pre-election sale. not shananigans This. I saw 44Mag's sale in the EE. It was on the up and up. In fact, he did the community quite the solid by holding the sale when he did. if that's the case, all is forgiven. i didn't pay enough attention to see they were running an actual sale, just knew the prices they've had for the past few weeks, and then saw they were higher after the election was called. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:40:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By johnnieblue:
Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
How do I order from C-products? http://www.cproductsllc.com/ Put C-products on the good guy list. Great company, good prices, and a great product. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:42:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By Nick29:
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Originally Posted By Svengali:
If anyone wants to list people in this thread who have good pricing the, by all means, list them. MidwayUSA doesn't seem to have jacked up their prices overnight Yep. I just placed an order with MidwayUSA for some powder. Their prices have not moved. I love dealing with them. |
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Posted: 11/5/2008 11:43:38 AM EST
AIMSURPLUS
still same prices. |
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