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Posted: 7/20/2008 6:48:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 8:11:44 PM EDT by coltaceguy]
Anyone know the firearms that were used in famous crimes?

I'm curious what James Earl Ray used to assassinate MLK.


Here I'll start:

The hillside strangler used a Dan Wesson 357mag...it can be currently found on gunbroker for sale..or it was there last week for sure

ETA: Found it
Hillside Strangler's gun
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:49:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:58:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By coltaceguy:
Anyone know the firearms that were used in famous crimes?

I'm curious what James Earl Ray used to assassinate MLK.



Remington 760 in 30-06.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:58:39 PM EDT
James Earl Ray used a Remington Model 760 pump action with a Redfield 2-7x scope in .30-06.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:01:02 PM EDT
Mannlicher-Carcano used by Oswald in the Kennedy Assassination.

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:01:47 PM EDT
Who knows what this is?

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:02:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


Jack Ruby?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:02:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:03:45 PM EDT by freerider04]

Originally Posted By coltaceguy:
Anyone know the firearms that were used in famous crimes?

I'm curious what James Earl Ray used to assassinate MLK.


Here I'll start:

The hillside strangler used a Dan Wesson 357mag...it can be currently found on gunbroker for sale..or it was there last week for sure

ETA: Found it
Hillside Strangler's gun


Mmmmmm that Dan Wesson looks nice. I love me a DW 15-2 esp. w/the 4" barrel. Too bad that one is so expensive
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:03:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:04:41 PM EDT by Triumph955i]

Originally Posted By cbsaf:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


Jack Ruby?


Thats what I think too.



Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:03:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


the colt Ruby used?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:03:38 PM EDT
Colt cobra used to shoot Lee Harvey O swald
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:03:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:05:10 PM EDT by cmjohnson]
That would be a bizarre collection concept: Examples of the same types of weapons used to knock off prominent political figures through history.


Rather macabre.


The Kennedy assassination rifle:


An Assassination Rifle - the Fucile M 91/38 "C 2766"




For most American readers, the M 91/38 short rifle with the serial number C2766, produced in 1940 in the Terni Arsenal, and chambered for the 6.5x52 Carcano, would be the most famous Carcano, since it was supposedly used by Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate President John F. Kennedy. Of special notice are the cheap Japanese made side-mounted 4x18 scope (imported by Ordnance Optics Inc., Hollywood, California, and installed by the mail-order distributor of the rifle, Klein's Sporting Goods) and the inappropriate sling (which originally belonged to a pistol shoulder holster, as many years later was found out).



CJ


Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:04:52 PM EDT

Who knows what this is?


i would say Reagan, however he wasn't assassinated.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:05:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cbsaf:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


Jack Ruby?


correct. Actually I think Ruby's had a thinner barrel. But that's what google came back with.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:06:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By coltaceguy:
Anyone know the firearms that were used in famous crimes?

I'm curious what James Earl Ray used to assassinate MLK.


Here I'll start:

The hillside strangler used a Dan Wesson 357mag...it can be currently found on gunbroker for sale..or it was there last week for sure

ETA: Found it
Hillside Strangler's gun
theres more and more evidence that points to JER not shooting mlk. most of his supporters include mlk's own family
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:06:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:09:42 PM EDT by Triumph955i]

Originally Posted By flyer8493:

Who knows what this is?


i would say Reagan, however he wasn't assassinated.


He used a 22 revolver I think.

Cylinder and barrel just aren't right for that.



Röhm RG-14 .22 cal
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:07:16 PM EDT



Who knows this one
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:07:37 PM EDT
Just today in another thread we got to talking about the handgun that "Tex" Watson used in the Manson murders.

It was a Colt Buntline Special.

David Berkowitz (the "Son of Sam") used a Charter Arms Bulldog .44 revolver.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:08:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By coltaceguy:
Anyone know the firearms that were used in famous crimes?

I'm curious what James Earl Ray used to assassinate MLK.


Here I'll start:

The hillside strangler used a Dan Wesson 357mag...it can be currently found on gunbroker for sale..or it was there last week for sure

ETA: Found it
Hillside Strangler's gun


Creepiest. Gun auction. Ever.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:08:40 PM EDT


David's weapon in David vs Goliath.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:12:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By coltaceguy:
Anyone know the firearms that were used in famous crimes?

I'm curious what James Earl Ray used to assassinate MLK.


Here I'll start:

The hillside strangler used a Dan Wesson 357mag...it can be currently found on gunbroker for sale..or it was there last week for sure

ETA: Found it
Hillside Strangler's gun


Creepiest. Gun auction. Ever.


+1. And I don't know who the hell in their right mind would want this. Bianchi was an animal. He raped and tortured women and girls (if I recall correctly) as young as 12.

That gun should have gone to the blast furnace, AFTER they put Bianchi in it first.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:12:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:37:21 PM EDT by BUCC_Guy]



Browning M1910, .380


Used to take out Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austrian empire, and his wife in Sarajevo, 1914. It started a war, or something.


- BG
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:14:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:16:00 PM EDT by Keith_J]

Originally Posted By flyer8493:

Who knows what this is?


i would say Reagan, however he wasn't assassinated.


That was an H&R Rhom .22 revolver.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:14:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Jesse James?

When the Soviets killed the Tsar, IIRC, it was Nagant revolvers & C-96's.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:15:09 PM EDT
One of the most famous pistols would be the one that Hitler used to shoot himself in the Bunker. Not technically an assassination, but would be real valuable nontheless. The actual model is unknown, but believed to be either a Walther PP or PPK. Most likely a PPK as it was Hitler's personal pistol. Suposedly one of the people from the Bunker picked it up and carried it away and later tossed it somewhere in the heavily destroyed Berlin.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:15:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee8/Triumph955i/pistol1b.jpg


John Wilkes Booth used it on Lincoln?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:17:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By cbsaf:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


Jack Ruby?


Thats what I think too.

i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee8/Triumph955i/jack-ruby-shoots-oswald.jpg



Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:18:01 PM EDT
What did Sirhan Sirhan use to kill RFK with?

Wasn't it a .22 pistol?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:18:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Well its a S&W No# 3. Billy the Kid? John Wesley Hardin?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:18:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By omega62:
What did Sirhan Sirhan use to kill RFK with?

Wasn't it a .22 pistol?


Iver Johnson .22 Cadet
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:18:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By cbsaf:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


Jack Ruby?


Thats what I think too.

i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee8/Triumph955i/jack-ruby-shoots-oswald.jpg



img149.imageshack.us/img149/9681/oswaldko1.jpg


That pic always cracks me up.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:19:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SS109:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee8/Triumph955i/pistol1b.jpg


John Wilkes Booth used it on Lincoln?


Thats the one.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:24:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:28:59 PM EDT
I always like this one from the reagan attempt



SS isn't fucking around, GET SOME!!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:29:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Well its a S&W No# 3. Billy the Kid? John Wesley Hardin?



Led to one of our greatest presidents. Its actually an Iver Johnson copy of the S&W
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:33:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Well its a S&W No# 3. Billy the Kid? John Wesley Hardin?



Led to one of our greatest presidents. Its actually an Iver Johnson copy of the S&W


Attempt on Teddy Roosevelt?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:34:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Well its a S&W No# 3. Billy the Kid? John Wesley Hardin?



Led to one of our greatest presidents. Its actually an Iver Johnson copy of the S&W


Attempt on Teddy Roosevelt?


McKinley
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:36:35 PM EDT
I don't agree that the Hillside Strangler's Dan Wesson should be melted down or destroyed.

I see it as just a gun that happened to be owned by a nutcase, but wasn't used in any crimes he committed.

To me, its market value is exactly what a Dan Wesson .357 of that type and condition is normally worth. I would buy it for that much, and sell it for that much, not more.


It's a "BFD" gun to me. (Big Freaking Deal. )


CJ
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:42:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By cbsaf:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Who knows what this is?

www.celtictexas.com/IMG_6595w.jpg


Jack Ruby?


correct. Actually I think Ruby's had a thinner barrel. But that's what google came back with.



Yes, the Cobra barrel didn't cover the ejector like that until 1972.

This photo shows that Ruby's also had the optional hammer shroud.


Here's a clearer picture of it

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:47:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
That would be a bizarre collection concept: Examples of the same types of weapons used to knock off prominent political figures through history.


Rather macabre.


The Kennedy assassination rifle:


An Assassination Rifle - the Fucile M 91/38 "C 2766"

personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/images/wc1303.gif


For most American readers, the M 91/38 short rifle with the serial number C2766, produced in 1940 in the Terni Arsenal, and chambered for the 6.5x52 Carcano, would be the most famous Carcano, since it was supposedly used by Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate President John F. Kennedy. Of special notice are the cheap Japanese made side-mounted 4x18 scope (imported by Ordnance Optics Inc., Hollywood, California, and installed by the mail-order distributor of the rifle, Klein's Sporting Goods) and the inappropriate sling (which originally belonged to a pistol shoulder holster, as many years later was found out).


I still have a problem with Oswald hitting Kennedy with that piece of crap rifle.
That was some miraculous shooting.


CJ


Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:47:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I don't agree that the Hillside Strangler's Dan Wesson should be melted down or destroyed.

I see it as just a gun that happened to be owned by a nutcase, but wasn't used in any crimes he committed.

To me, its market value is exactly what a Dan Wesson .357 of that type and condition is normally worth. I would buy it for that much, and sell it for that much, not more.


It's a "BFD" gun to me. (Big Freaking Deal. )


CJ


I don't agree that it should be destroyed either.

Might as well destroy an arfcom members John Wayne Gacy paintings because they were created by a sick murderer.

For that matter, lets melt every firearm posted in this thread.

Destroying the objects that belonged to a murderer doesn't help anything. Just makes people feel better about themselves.

How righteous.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:51:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I don't agree that the Hillside Strangler's Dan Wesson should be melted down or destroyed.

I see it as just a gun that happened to be owned by a nutcase, but wasn't used in any crimes he committed.

To me, its market value is exactly what a Dan Wesson .357 of that type and condition is normally worth. I would buy it for that much, and sell it for that much, not more.


It's a "BFD" gun to me. (Big Freaking Deal. )


CJ


I don't agree that it should be destroyed either.

Might as well destroy an arfcom members John Wayne Gacy paintings because they were created by a sick murderer.

For that matter, lets melt every firearm posted in this thread.

Destroying the objects that belonged to a murderer doesn't help anything. Just makes people feel better about themselves.

How righteous.


It would certainly make me feel better destroying weapons owned by someone who raped and murdered children, rather than seeing them being offered for sale at an asking price of $89,000 like they are some kind of "valuable souvenirs."

If you would enjoy collecting that kind of stuff, I guess that's your business.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:54:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:
world.guns.ru/handguns/browning_1910.jpg


Browning M1910, .380


Used to take out Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austrian empire, and his wife in Sarajevo, 1914. It started a war, or something.


- BG


It did start a war however it took 3 trys to do it. The gun misfired 2 times. The duke's driver took a wrong turn and they met the assasin walking away from the parade route.
Bang the duke was shot. Unfortunately according to medical historyians the duke could have survived but the driver took the longest route to the hospital because he did not know the city.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:59:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 8:00:26 PM EDT by smokycity]
Not assassin guns, but they are famous:

Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:59:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Well its a S&W No# 3. Billy the Kid? John Wesley Hardin?



Led to one of our greatest presidents. Its actually an Iver Johnson copy of the S&W


Attempt on Teddy Roosevelt?


McKinley


Teddy was never shot while President, Mckinley, Regan, and Bobby Kennedy were all shot with 22lr. Regan and Booby with 22lr revolvers made by Iver Johnson, McKinley I don't know.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:03:13 PM EDT
Anyone know this one ?



Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:06:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bob1984:
Anyone know this one ?

i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll141/Bob1984_photo/revolver051205_400.jpg



Isn't that the one Sirhan Sirhan (sp) used to kill Robert Kennedy?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:07:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:

Originally Posted By Kihn:

Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Steripicupload.jpg/300px-Steripicupload.jpg


Who knows this one


Well its a S&W No# 3. Billy the Kid? John Wesley Hardin?



Led to one of our greatest presidents. Its actually an Iver Johnson copy of the S&W


The gun that put TR in office?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:12:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Not assassin guns, but they are famous:

bp3.blogger.com/_NIEITyEz_kE/Rl9t0uto1sI/AAAAAAAAAC0/JkjJLwTyMlg/s1600/Holster%2B02.jpg



The red X of doom?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:14:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 8:17:01 PM EDT by smokycity]

Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Not assassin guns, but they are famous:

bp3.blogger.com/_NIEITyEz_kE/Rl9t0uto1sI/AAAAAAAAAC0/JkjJLwTyMlg/s1600/Holster%2B02.jpg



The red X of doom?


I see em fine.


ETA: DOh,,now they are gone. So now the link will give them away:

couvisblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/patton-pistols.html
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:15:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By smokycity:
Not assassin guns, but they are famous:

bp3.blogger.com/_NIEITyEz_kE/Rl9t0uto1sI/AAAAAAAAAC0/JkjJLwTyMlg/s1600/Holster%2B02.jpg



The red X of doom?


I see em fine.


Maybe my computer is just being a douche bag then...
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