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Posted: 7/17/2008 10:22:17 PM EDT
I just got back from a "live" show he did in Texas and broadcast to 350 theatres across the country. Did anyone else go?
He is awesome, if you like conservative, common sense, and the 2nd Amendment................... Why is common sense so uncommon in politicians? |
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Yeah, the last thing we need is a president that cries all the time. Seriously...Glenn Beck cries more than any man ever should. It seems every time I see him on TV, that he's blubbering on about something.
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I saw him speak at the Louisville KY NRA Annual meeting this past May. He was impressive to say the least, NO B.S., to the point, my kinda guy!!!
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Your right, I've never seen Hillary cry, lets write her in!!! |
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Glen Beck is phony.
He's a hardcore Romney supporter and was encouraging people to vote for Hillary Clinton if John McCain got the Republican nomination. He's getting rich telling you what you want to hear and selling tickets, advertising and books. |
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+1 Don't be fooled, folks. His radio show was pretty funny to listen to, tho. |
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Doesnt surprise me since they are both LDS. I, however, hear far more good from him than anyone else I've ever in my life listened to. He just makes sense. |
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I thought that was Ann Coulter??? Damn Motown, how long is that list of yours? |
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Voting for a president based upon the possibility of future entertainment value.. yeah, that's common sense all right.
ETA: My impression of the guy is that he's full of himself (in a "Shooter McGavin" kind of way) and that he's a whiney little cream puff of a man who probably gets a peculiar kick out of purchasing neck ties. |
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You folks objecting really have some great points!
+1 for Beck |
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I never said he didn't have political potential. He's obviously got a head on his shoulders. He does his homework, prepares himself and puts on a good act. He's one of those people that's willing to question their own assertions and search for a deeper truth. However virtuous, it's sort of an exhibitionist behavior in that bringing these realizations to light in the manner he does, is like saying "look how humble I'm being". My guts tell me he's all about the show biz. His biography is all about the show biz. He might make a good advisor though |
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How's that make him phony? There's a very good possibility that when it's all said and done that Hillary is the more conservative candidate compared to McCain. Beck's like a lot of us true Conservatives, when it gets to the point that the best we can come up with is McCain then we might as well have outright socialists in power. |
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I think you must have slept through the 90s. Hillary? More Conservative than John McCain? Give me a break. McCain might be a closet Democrat, but Hillary is a (not quite) closet Communist. |
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Absolutely correct. Can't stand him; makes me cringe. I honestly believe he has mental issues as well. |
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If you're going to throw out mental issues - might as well bring up McCain....If the election came down to Beck, McCain, or Obama - I'd prefer to see Glen Beck in - even if he is just an entertainer......McCain is a skuzzy RINO. Lesser of two evils *perhaps*. Doesn't say much for the modern GOP though. |
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I would vote for him over the two we have on the ticket right now.
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Yeah, Glenn Beck is real conservative!!1
Look at his candidate of choice!
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I also attended BECK 08 in PRNJ and there were only a few seats empty. The most normal crowd I have ever seen at this particular movie theater. It was great and he said what a lot of people think on this board. Guess that does make him crazy.
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He's not crazy (at least I don't think so) He's certainly someone that can identify and articulate his values. Normal people can relate to that. Those who share the same values he expresses would be naturally compelled to listen. I think he derives a bit of a thrill from that and it's what underlies his enthusiasm as an entertainer.. and wrong with that? However, we the people are not simply an audience. |
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Without hesitating |
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I seriously don't think the United Stated needs another professional entertainment celebrity in office.. especially the oval office.
I don't think we need another lawyer or a hero either. I just wish there was someone in the running that was willing and capable of doing the job that's gotta get done and represent. To me, Glen Beck represents show biz.. he's been in it since he was thirteen. This isn't a fuckin' show. |
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For anyone that thinks the U.S. ought to be run by some radio or TV show personality, I think the U.S. (as we know it) might already be in it's last season.
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This. |
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A completely different caliber of person is what we need..
Someone that actually kicks some serious ass (not acts like it in front of a camera). I don't necessarily mean kicking ass in the literal sense but someone who actually gets up every day and takes care of business - come what may. Someone that is known to help out their friends by actually pitching in, does things for their community out of respect and duty not bragging rights. We need someone that knows when to keep their mouth shut and to listen. We need someone who can to ask the important questions, read between the lines, reason and deduce. We need someone that doesn't freak out and drop the ball when the going gets tough -yet knows their limits well enough not to let that get in the way. We don't need someone that just likes to talk about the value of these things.. but rather someone who doesn't have the time to because they're out there doing them. To the bat signal! I dunno. The line up we have just sucks. |
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I like the guy. He's smart and entertaining. I listen to his radio show pretty frequently (I toggle between him and Boortz depending on the subject of the day). Would I want him POTUS? No way! I would rather him have a cabinet position and have Rush Limbaugh in the White House.
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Glen Beck for president?! He's a stooge.
It's easy to say whatever it is your target audience wants to hear. He doesn't have to worry about actually DOING anything, OR getting elected. |
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Other than the Romney issue, I don't understand all the hate here for Glen Beck? |
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Well last I noticed you pretty much have to be in the publics eye when running for office. |
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I get the impression that Beck never swims in the deep end of the pool.
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Making a living in the business of entertainment is different than a career public service.. That's just one aspect of my overall objection to celebrities in office (it's not a case against Beck I'm trying to make). Don't play straw man with me and pick a single point of mine out. ETA: in general I just think celebrity personalities are too self absorbed in THEIR own interests and not that of the people around them and that is a GENERALIZATION but, were I to be picking someone to watch over the chicken coop, I wouldn't take my chances with the sly fox. Ug. I'm done with this. My pops and I went around about this silly stuff the other day and I just can't take it anymore but I couldn't help it either. |
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You mean like Reagan? |
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I grew up with Edward Teller as a kid. Teller invented Star Wars and the H-bomb. He was my hero not Reagan. ETA. I'm not kickin' Reagan. He was a nice guy with a great personality.. eh. |
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He sounds interesting, I'll look him up. But I didn't realize you were talking about heroes.
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I'm not. And I'm still not going after any strawmen either. I am trying my best to make a sound point, though I digress into anecdote. There's a reason I make a comparison between someone who I think can do a job even though I don't like everything about them and a reason I think someone can't do a job even though I think they're basically ok. When I was kid, Teller was kind of a hero to me. Anymore, I look back at him as a profound contributor to the world as we know it. He was a very politically minded scientist, he was willing to face the possibilities of being wrong given the stakes at the time and trusted his instincts beyond what he was able to calculate. Gleaning something of his life story, I came to understand a little bit about the subjectivity of his decision-making processes and realized that he was probably 'right' in his many of his pursuits. I could care less about 'heroes'. It's about the merit of deed, personal accountability to ones counterparts (whether social, occupational, civic or other) and the capacity to take action out of consideration for the position to which one has been appointed, commissioned, elected or born into for that matter.. That's just common decency as far as I'm concerned. To me, he basically fueled the white house for YEARS with ideas about how this thing (the cold war) was going down.. Eventually it did. The Soviets were stretched too thin.. and in a lot of ways, it was Teller that got them running. He raised the bar, bringing the ultimate weapon to modern warfare and effectively initiated a real need for the the space race. The guy was hardcore. He knew we would win out because of who we are and the things we believ(ed) in. Mutually assured destruction was almost certain in battle, but the strategy of standing behind a shield was an impressive notion that, regardless of its controversial nature, the presentation of the concept of this as a defense, aided us in maintaining a somewhat hegemonic status in the general world view. Europe and Asia did not feel as threatened by us. The Soviets were not in the business of building rapport and as the wall came down I imagine they did not think it would be this way. It has taken some time for them to begin to think their ways out of the fragmentation and economic turmoil. I don't think they'll fall for that one again though (mostly because I don't think they will reunite). Enough about some guy I knew as a kid (though he did have a huge impact on me). He did things - actual things. He was not all talk. He was not a pretend scientist or even a make believe activist. He pulled some stuff off trying to sell the concept of SDI to Reagan and managed to get them to start making a good show of it. I don't think he believed it would do much more than get the Soviets ramped up and spun out. It was like some sort of mental jujitsu, using the news coming out of the White House as an indirect energy weapon to cause the Communists to scramble and disintegrate. They'll still continue sputter for a while back in Moscow because it's not 'over'. He was a serious person, almost spooky but thoughtful enough to clear things up. I'm not going to split hairs over philosophies and get into the normative or the 'is-ness' of being but it appears somewhat cut and dry to me when it comes to seeing what someone is 'made of' and what they're 'about' especially when the significant determining factors are related to the subjects of one's contention. Putting my disposition about celebrities aside for a moment to take a look at Glenn Beck, I would judge him to be a man of mentionable intellect however, what he has used it for is to expound upon his beliefs through broadcast and publishing. He is an entrepreneur and entertainer and rightfully entitled to the proceeds of sharing his expression. If I asked him whether he considered being elected as President to be a successful achievement and he answered yes, then I would ask him another question to determine the nature of this beneficial situation as he sees it. I would be foolish to think that I know what he would say, but I have a few guesses. I don't think a man of such prominence (I'll qualify that by saying that I mean how he came to be in the position he is in) can grasp the visceral dimensions of sacrifice beyond it's dramatic or theatrical quality. He has a 'need to succeed', perhaps at any cost and it is that which makes me think he is a potential risk. I'm not calling him a liar or a sneak or anything derogatory at all I just think he's a risk. I think anyone like that is for that sort of work. Matters of stability and security are complex and shouldn't be brushed over. I hate when people try to put such things into summation with little aphorisms.. like they're trying out material for their next act. Shoot-from-the-hip mavericks who think their so clever and spry, sure to deal a massive blow to anyone that attempts to escape their succinct, air-tight logic. Sophistry, platitude and sarcasm is what seems to make the majority of these talk show types turn dials. That's what I can't stand - people that are just full of hyperbolic bullshit. I understand that sometimes folks have to put on an act in order to elicit a response but if that's their their entire m.o., they should be an interrogator, an attorney or maybe playing one on TV.. I don't think I really know who Glenn Beck is. I can't tell. It's not that I don't care, but for someone that's in the public eye (ear or whatever) I don't get a sense of what goes through that guys mind when the day is done. Not anything that would change the world like some other people I've known that's for fucking sure. He's a light weight and I don't know if he's ever going to be a contender. I don't think he'd be prepared to back his stuff up at the Kremlin or in Beijing or even Tel Aviv. I don't give a shit how much he flaps his trap. It's all talk.. same with most all those radio windbags. Bla bla bla.. Why not a DMX/Oprah Ticket or Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie.. Howard Stern and Don Imus? Henry Rollins and Gary Busey? Again, it's not a casting call. It's a presidential election, and I'm of the stance that people that haven't actually shown a commitment to representing the interests of their constituents in a bona fide manner are quite possibly out for their own. I'm rambling. People can go on about the Military Industrial Complex all they want and the amount of 'wasted' dollars. If we didn't push it like we did back then, and keep the Russians in check, things might be a LOT different. ETA: Teller was no politician though. He was always to busy gettin er done. Interesting guy. Still, it just comes down to looking past the rhetoric. Action speaks louder than words. The pressure is still on to this day. Who will deal with the Chinese? Kundun? |
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I don't get it either. I think people enjoy complaining and bitching about things then coming up with solutions to any problems. Glenn Beck has common sense and is conservative. If the arfcom doesn't like him, then I give up. |
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I'd much sooner nominate someone with the analytical mind and even keel of C. Paul Robinson. He's well acquainted with affairs in Washington and abroad. Served as an ambassador before taking the role of director to the National Labs at Sandia. He's a person of tremendous integrity and influence. Though respected by his colleagues, for the most part, nobody knows him outside the circles of the Pentagon and the DOE but he's a hell of a guy.. He plays a really mean game of poker. Kinda funny in a Dr. Strangelove sort of way but he's got a handle on the facts and is intimately familiar with very real world threats and issues of concern. He's performed a difficult task, keeping things on track in the face of politically charged conditions. His resume is on the State Department's web page. |
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Yup you're a strange one. |
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well, at least you don't think i'm serious. |
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