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Posted: 3/19/2008 3:22:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/21/2008 7:04:52 AM EST by xdalfalkif]
So, I wanted to be able to get in to see DC v. Heller. I had been to the court a few other times and knew certain cases are tough to get into. I decided I would leave on Sunday and try to camp out for two nights in order to gain access. I had read online that the Grokster case drew people early the day before. This case is bigger so I figured I needed to be early. In fact, I was worried I would not be one of the first 50 to get there and have no chance of getting a seat. As it turns out, I was first in line at 535pm Sunday.
![]() ![]() This Supreme Court police officer told us where to start the line. He was great. He told us a bunch of stories of other cases. He said Lawrence v. Texas drew an interesting crowd. He didn't think we were lined up too early. He said other cases drew people even earlier. He had served in the ARMY.![]() A picture of me and my rabbit fur hat. That hat is warm. ![]() My friend Dan who I made take off work and come with me. ![]() When we jumped in line Jan Crawford Greenburg from ABC news happened to be getting ready for a segment at the base of the steps. She wrote in her BLOG about us that night. Apparently a bunch of people read the blog and showed up extra early because of it! ![]() When we jumped in line, Alan Korwin who wrote the "gun laws" books and his friend Bob Blackmer were there. They had just flown in from Phoenix, Arizona and wanted to make sure the line was not already growing. Alan had a reserved seat but Bob needed to stand in line. We told them we'd call if more than a few people showed up that night. They left and came back about an hour later with coffee and pizza for Dan and I. We ate it and read the briefs. ![]() This guy walked by and started talking to us. He was pro gun and was glad we were here to show our support. However, he eventually started telling us how McCain and other Senators had implants in their brains that gives them LSD. The LSD counteracts the dementia causing radio waves from cell phone towers! ![]() ![]() Later that night three more people showed up together. They lived in the area and two of them went to George Washington law school. All of them were on our side ![]() Our pro-gun LSD friend came back again with a duffle bag full of blankets for Dan and I. There was also some old tin foil in the bottom of the bag. I didn't check to see if it counteracts the radiation. ![]() Sunday night was cold cold cold, even with the extra blankets the wind sliced right through. After about 4am it was too cold to sleep and some reporters showed up to do bits for the 6am news. ![]() At about 7am Matt showed up (in the yellow jacket.) He was from New Jersey so I expected the worst. However, he turned out to be a Class 3 gun dealer! ![]() If anyone else showed up I was going to call Bob and tell him to come but he made it by shortly after Matt. ![]() I had Dan hold my spot in line as I went in the side door of the court and grabbed a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich. ![]() Alan came back and hung out with us most of the day. We talked about avoiding buzzwords if any of the media talks to us i.e. sidearm vs. handgun and pro rights vs. pro gun. ![]() More people showed up, including law students from Harvard and Georgetown. None of them seemed to be anti gun. ![]() Someone was having a black rifle party on top of the capital and I wasn't invited ![]() Swiss TV. ![]() The sentence on this homeless man's sign makes no sense. I think what he means is that the 2A protects states but not DC. I didn't talk to him. ![]() Swiss TV talking to Bob. ![]() A blogger came by to talk to Bob. He took a video of him and Alan singing parody songs: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6qLd8prYCo ![]() The SCOTUS police started talking to the homeless man. I'm not sure why. I think they might keep track of protesters in case there is a problem. I'm not sure. ![]() Bob talking to the guy from the Washington Post. ![]() A group protesting abortion. Each night around midnight there was also a group who came and prayed about abortion (I think) and then sang songs. ![]() Steve showed up in the afternoon. He is a high school physics teacher in VA. He said he uses guns in his physics examples. ![]() This RP mobile showed up. I think the guy had someone saving a spot in line for him. ![]() Bob talks with a woman from US News & World Reports. ![]() This guy wrote one of the amicus briefs. I'm sure someone here knows who he is. He was having a heated discussion with one of the two government lawyers from NYC who both contributed to amicus briefs. She was a self described libertarian except that she struggled with guns. She was open minded about the meaning of the 2A but concluded, after trying to give meaning to each word in the 2A, that the 2A prevented Congress from passing gun laws that prevent states from having armed citizens. Therefore, DC is not a state and the citizens are not protected by the 2A. So, it seemed she was saying that if Pennsylvania wants to let its citizens by machine guns at Walmart there is nothing congress could do about it. She had an interesting view. If you feel it is necessary to give the preamble meaning beyond stating a purpose, then her view is the best you can get. ![]() The law student from Harvard was keeping a list of each person in line in case there were disputes. The SCOTUS police said they will not get involved in a line dispute. ![]() Matt had one of the most comfortable setups. Bob had a small propane heater. ![]() One of the GW law students had his wife bring sleeping bags for Dan and I. There was a great sense of camaraderie. The second night was less windy, less cold, and my new sleeping bag was warmer. ![]() The news started showing up at 4 or 5 am again on Tuesday morning. ![]() The "original 7" was also called ourselves the magnificent 7....... ![]() ![]() At about 7 the police moved the line up onto the foot of the main steps. ![]() I brought TKAMB along to finish reading. I never had the chance because waiting in line was not as boring as I expected. My professor's favorite book is TKAMB and I thought he'd get a kick out of this picture. ![]() At about 730 or so, they handed out place cards. I wanted to run to the back of the line (now well over 100, only the first 50 had a hope to get in) and try to sell it to someone for $10,000. ![]() The originals again. ![]() Scale model of the court. I was seated just to the left of the picture next to a pillar near the golden colored fence. The font row on the left in the public section was filled right before the hearing started. I asked one of them who they were, they said friends of J. Breyer. One of them looked kind of like Sen. Feinstein but Bob didn't think so. There are three guards that monitor the court room. Under the seats where they sit were two small 12x12x4 boxes wrapped in a plastic/foil wrap. I wanted to ask what they were after the case but I forgot. I'm sure everyone read the transcript so I wont go into that. J. Thomas was more awake for this case than any other time I've seen him. He did seem to sleep a little towards the end. Everyone had a nice laugh after Roberts made the comment about trigger locks. ![]() I don't know who all of these guys are. Someone here must know. ![]() I was told this guy was someone from the NRA. I don't know. The lady interviewing him is from NRA news. We talked with her. There was also a guy making a documentary that I talked to about the case. Alan asked Bob if he wanted to go eat lunch in the SC cafe with him and some bigwig NRA/big name gun people. He said he'd rather eat with Dan and I. We went to the Dubliner near Union Station. After lunch Dan and I had some time to kill and walked to the Capital building. The last time I went to the SCOUTS I posted that the SC police use Sig Sauers. Well the Capital police use Glocks. My guess is because if they run out of ammo they can always use it like a hand grenade and throw it at the terrorists. ![]() ![]() They also use semi-auto shotguns and M-4s of some kind. ![]() ![]() ![]() This piece of abstract art was so bad it killed this pigeon. ![]() All in all it was a great experience (except for the sunburn). Standing in line and meeting people was worth it as an end in and of it self. I was interviewed by a bunch of news people including the AP whose article was picked up by a lot of news agencies. There were not many Brady Bunch types like I expected until the day of the case. Even then they were only there for a couple hours. I talked to a shop owner who wanted the ban overturned, he wanted to be able to defend his business. I'm glad the first person in line was pro-gun, an NRA member, and most importantly an ARFCOMER! ![]() Ask me questions if you have any. I'll try to put some of the video I took on youtube. ETA: Here is some video clips I took. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxGGThyCWiU |
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Good job. Keep up the good fight.
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American by chance, Southern by the grace of God.
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That's awesome, thank you for sharing. Wish I could have been there.
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Looking for Winchester Model 42 Ser. No. 102662
I sold it 20 years ago ouside Hara Arena, Dayton, OH |
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Good job & nice writeup. Thanks for being there.
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"Even during normal times, they walk around like zombies of the living dead." - NOLA Resident
"Your new society sounds charming." - Robert Morgan |
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EPIC! Awesome! ARFCOM leads the way!!!
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FRED '08<img src=/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>
Real simple SUPPORT AND DEFEND |
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Good stuff!
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Cool.
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Good pictures and story.
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Win.
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thanks for the write-up!
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I'm sciencing as fast as I can!
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![]() Just living the dream, baby! |
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Good job thanks for being there!
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That guard towards the end of your pics has more chins than a chinese phone book
![]() Thnks for sharing....I think you were witness to something historic
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Hillary,Obama, Mcain...Whoever wins....we still lose
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Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...
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OP you are my hero. Awesome post, thank you!
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9mm? America doesn't speak metric, faggot.
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Thanks for the pics and write up!
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Great pics and right-up.
ETA: Ya'll were out buying food when that perfectly good pigeon was laying there!?!
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Awesome dude! Great story and I had a good laugh about that dead Italian eagle...Hog
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outstanding! you're enthusiasm is appreciated, and the pics/story is great. Thanks, BB |
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xxxTAPxxx:
"Men are like pirates, they're loud and say what's on their mind. Women are like ninjas, you don't see them coming towards you until you have a knife in your heart" |
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Refuting the BBB and GLOZI scum where I see fit!
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Great post!
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<font size=3>www.gunowners.org - www.nra.org - www.saf.org</font id=s3>
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This thread is full of WIN.
Great job, and thanks for the pics! SG |
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Women are like guns: If you keep one around long enough, you'll want to shoot it.
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Thanks for the great write-up. I think DK-Prof took some pictures of you.
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Very nice. Thanks for taking your time to write this up.
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Good Job and thanks for sharing!
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Outstanding. Thanks for the write up.
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We all die, but not everyone truly lives.
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Great post and pics. Sounds like you had a good time. Wish I could find time to do something of that nature. Arfcom is everywhere!
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If you die from natural causes, you're a pussy.
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Comedy gold.
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Pull my finger.
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Nice work.
Hope you got to keep your place holder ticket. You now have a story for posterity, and your kids. |
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I've never done this before, but I really think this particular post deserves it.
OP: Log out and back in. Welcome to Team. rr |
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"If they TAKE YOUR WEAPON from your hands and kill you with it, then I don't think survival was really your thing in the first place." -Beltfedleadhead
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shoulda put a boltface sticker somewhere!!
![]() thanks for standing out there for the rest of us. |
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"Whenever there is any doubt, there is no doubt. That's the first thing they teach you"
"Who taught you?" "I don't remember. That's the second thing they teach you." |
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You done real good.
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Thanks for being there.
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It's a race to the bottom.
In memory of my 343 Brothers of the FDNY that lost their lives on 11 Sept 01 Never Forget What Happened. Never Forget Who Did It. 20 wpm Extra |
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Nice job! You are the real thing man! |
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Fantastic!
Even though the cold was a PITA, I'm sure it was a great experience. Thanks for the pics and report! |
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Fighting side by side, hand in hand.
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I was not allowed to keep the ticket. Should I be worried that DK-prof is taking my picture?
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That's awesome. I wish I could have been there. This thread is full of epic potential.
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Does anyone know where I can get Hoppe's #9 cologne?
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Outstanding.
SWAG would be they are automatic defibrillators. |
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Absolutely awesome post. Next best thing to being there.
Great pics, enjoyable read and I like your distaste in art. Poor pigeon. |
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Thanks for being there the day our rights were finally recognized!
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Well done!
Epic thread potential! Jim |
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You sir, are hardcore! Good on ya for doing this, and reporting it back to us.
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If nothing ever changed, there'd be no butterflies. But, I still can't get away with calling anyone fucking douchebag. Much to do.
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Thanks for the report! I wish I could have been there.
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"Moral of this lesson: Don't get in any gun fights with buffalo hunters. There ain't no such thing as cover." - Old_Painless on the 45-70.
كافر |
![]() Nice Job! |
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DK is only dangerous around geese and dresser drawers. Welcome to the team courtesy of ragedracer1977
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His myspace: profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=222467067 Probably the most well spoken homeless man I've seen... www.youtube.com/watch?v=53UP1GGYXvg |
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Epic. Thanks for actually doing what a lot of us weren't able to do ourselves and having the courtesy to post pics.
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Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.-- Isaac Asimov
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams |
What the Swing Man says. btw, the guy on the left in the 'I don't know pic' is Vin Syp-something or other. He writes a gun rights column in Shotgun News.
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Originally Posted By UH_Salt_Rifle:
She does know how to shoot pretty damn good and I would hate to put her skills to the test. Hell she could just beat me to death with a double dong. What a disgraceful way to die. |
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Very cool!
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"Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway"--John Wayne
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I ordered a boltface t-shirt but it did not come in time I wanted something subtle that most would not notice but those in the know would understand. They wont let you protest or wear any sort of speech on court property. |
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Way to go!
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