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Posted: 3/19/2008 3:22:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/21/2008 7:04:52 AM EST by xdalfalkif]
So, I wanted to be able to get in to see DC v. Heller. I had been to the court a few other times and knew certain cases are tough to get into. I decided I would leave on Sunday and try to camp out for two nights in order to gain access. I had read online that the Grokster case drew people early the day before. This case is bigger so I figured I needed to be early. In fact, I was worried I would not be one of the first 50 to get there and have no chance of getting a seat. As it turns out, I was first in line at 535pm Sunday.



This Supreme Court police officer told us where to start the line. He was great. He told us a bunch of stories of other cases. He said Lawrence v. Texas drew an interesting crowd. He didn't think we were lined up too early. He said other cases drew people even earlier. He had served in the ARMY.



A picture of me and my rabbit fur hat. That hat is warm.



My friend Dan who I made take off work and come with me.




When we jumped in line Jan Crawford Greenburg from ABC news happened to be getting ready for a segment at the base of the steps. She wrote in her BLOG about us that night. Apparently a bunch of people read the blog and showed up extra early because of it!




When we jumped in line, Alan Korwin who wrote the "gun laws" books and his friend Bob Blackmer were there. They had just flown in from Phoenix, Arizona and wanted to make sure the line was not already growing. Alan had a reserved seat but Bob needed to stand in line. We told them we'd call if more than a few people showed up that night. They left and came back about an hour later with coffee and pizza for Dan and I. We ate it and read the briefs.


This guy walked by and started talking to us. He was pro gun and was glad we were here to show our support. However, he eventually started telling us how McCain and other Senators had implants in their brains that gives them LSD. The LSD counteracts the dementia causing radio waves from cell phone towers! The CIA also drives around the ghetto with radiation. This is why dementia and Alzheimers are on the rise. Bush 1 and Clinton are also involved.


Later that night three more people showed up together. They lived in the area and two of them went to George Washington law school. All of them were on our side

Our pro-gun LSD friend came back again with a duffle bag full of blankets for Dan and I. There was also some old tin foil in the bottom of the bag. I didn't check to see if it counteracts the radiation.

Sunday night was cold cold cold, even with the extra blankets the wind sliced right through. After about 4am it was too cold to sleep and some reporters showed up to do bits for the 6am news.



At about 7am Matt showed up (in the yellow jacket.) He was from New Jersey so I expected the worst. However, he turned out to be a Class 3 gun dealer!

If anyone else showed up I was going to call Bob and tell him to come but he made it by shortly after Matt.



I had Dan hold my spot in line as I went in the side door of the court and grabbed a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich.


Alan came back and hung out with us most of the day. We talked about avoiding buzzwords if any of the media talks to us i.e. sidearm vs. handgun and pro rights vs. pro gun.



More people showed up, including law students from Harvard and Georgetown. None of them seemed to be anti gun.




Someone was having a black rifle party on top of the capital and I wasn't invited



Swiss TV.



The sentence on this homeless man's sign makes no sense. I think what he means is that the 2A protects states but not DC. I didn't talk to him.




Swiss TV talking to Bob.


A blogger came by to talk to Bob. He took a video of him and Alan singing parody songs: www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6qLd8prYCo




The SCOTUS police started talking to the homeless man. I'm not sure why. I think they might keep track of protesters in case there is a problem. I'm not sure.




Bob talking to the guy from the Washington Post.


A group protesting abortion. Each night around midnight there was also a group who came and prayed about abortion (I think) and then sang songs.


Steve showed up in the afternoon. He is a high school physics teacher in VA. He said he uses guns in his physics examples. Steve wanted to watch the case but could not stand in line this early. He stayed for a few hours and left. Tuesday morning he came before the case and brought coffee and donuts for us! He also engaged the Brady Bunch when they showed up to protest. He is an upstanding gun owner.




This RP mobile showed up. I think the guy had someone saving a spot in line for him.




Bob talks with a woman from US News & World Reports.




This guy wrote one of the amicus briefs. I'm sure someone here knows who he is. He was having a heated discussion with one of the two government lawyers from NYC who both contributed to amicus briefs. She was a self described libertarian except that she struggled with guns. She was open minded about the meaning of the 2A but concluded, after trying to give meaning to each word in the 2A, that the 2A prevented Congress from passing gun laws that prevent states from having armed citizens. Therefore, DC is not a state and the citizens are not protected by the 2A. So, it seemed she was saying that if Pennsylvania wants to let its citizens by machine guns at Walmart there is nothing congress could do about it. She had an interesting view. If you feel it is necessary to give the preamble meaning beyond stating a purpose, then her view is the best you can get.




The law student from Harvard was keeping a list of each person in line in case there were disputes. The SCOTUS police said they will not get involved in a line dispute.




Matt had one of the most comfortable setups. Bob had a small propane heater.




One of the GW law students had his wife bring sleeping bags for Dan and I. There was a great sense of camaraderie. The second night was less windy, less cold, and my new sleeping bag was warmer.


The news started showing up at 4 or 5 am again on Tuesday morning.




The "original 7" was also called ourselves the magnificent 7.......




At about 7 the police moved the line up onto the foot of the main steps.




I brought TKAMB along to finish reading. I never had the chance because waiting in line was not as boring as I expected. My professor's favorite book is TKAMB and I thought he'd get a kick out of this picture.


At about 730 or so, they handed out place cards. I wanted to run to the back of the line (now well over 100, only the first 50 had a hope to get in) and try to sell it to someone for $10,000.




The originals again.




Scale model of the court. I was seated just to the left of the picture next to a pillar near the golden colored fence. The font row on the left in the public section was filled right before the hearing started. I asked one of them who they were, they said friends of J. Breyer. One of them looked kind of like Sen. Feinstein but Bob didn't think so.

There are three guards that monitor the court room. Under the seats where they sit were two small 12x12x4 boxes wrapped in a plastic/foil wrap. I wanted to ask what they were after the case but I forgot.

I'm sure everyone read the transcript so I wont go into that. J. Thomas was more awake for this case than any other time I've seen him. He did seem to sleep a little towards the end. Everyone had a nice laugh after Roberts made the comment about trigger locks.




I don't know who all of these guys are. Someone here must know.




I was told this guy was someone from the NRA. I don't know. The lady interviewing him is from NRA news. We talked with her.

There was also a guy making a documentary that I talked to about the case.

Alan asked Bob if he wanted to go eat lunch in the SC cafe with him and some bigwig NRA/big name gun people. He said he'd rather eat with Dan and I. We went to the Dubliner near Union Station.


After lunch Dan and I had some time to kill and walked to the Capital building. The last time I went to the SCOUTS I posted that the SC police use Sig Sauers. Well the Capital police use Glocks. My guess is because if they run out of ammo they can always use it like a hand grenade and throw it at the terrorists.



They also use semi-auto shotguns and M-4s of some kind.








This piece of abstract art was so bad it killed this pigeon.



All in all it was a great experience (except for the sunburn). Standing in line and meeting people was worth it as an end in and of it self. I was interviewed by a bunch of news people including the AP whose article was picked up by a lot of news agencies. There were not many Brady Bunch types like I expected until the day of the case. Even then they were only there for a couple hours. I talked to a shop owner who wanted the ban overturned, he wanted to be able to defend his business.

I'm glad the first person in line was pro-gun, an NRA member, and most importantly an ARFCOMER!

Ask me questions if you have any. I'll try to put some of the video I took on youtube.


ETA: Here is some video clips I took.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxGGThyCWiU
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:31:09 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:31:25 PM EST
That's awesome, thank you for sharing. Wish I could have been there.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:31:53 PM EST
Good job & nice writeup. Thanks for being there.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:32:06 PM EST





This piece of abstract art was so bad it killed this pigeon.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/xdalfalkif/CIMG1340.jpg



Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:32:13 PM EST
EPIC! Awesome! ARFCOM leads the way!!!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:32:38 PM EST
Good stuff!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:32:55 PM EST
Cool.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:33:03 PM EST
Good pictures and story.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:34:24 PM EST
Win.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:36:32 PM EST
thanks for the write-up!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:36:41 PM EST


Just living the dream, baby!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:38:07 PM EST
Good job thanks for being there!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:38:35 PM EST
That guard towards the end of your pics has more chins than a chinese phone book

Thnks for sharing....I think you were witness to something historic
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:39:13 PM EST
OP you are my hero. Awesome post, thank you!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:39:57 PM EST
Thanks for the pics and write up!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:42:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/19/2008 3:45:11 PM EST by Silas]
Great pics and right-up.

ETA: Ya'll were out buying food when that perfectly good pigeon was laying there!?!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:43:58 PM EST
Awesome dude! Great story and I had a good laugh about that dead Italian eagle...Hog
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:44:05 PM EST

outstanding! you're enthusiasm is appreciated, and the pics/story is great. Thanks,

BB
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:44:20 PM EST
Great post!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:44:30 PM EST
This thread is full of WIN.

Great job, and thanks for the pics!

SG
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:45:00 PM EST
Thanks for the great write-up. I think DK-Prof took some pictures of you.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:45:45 PM EST
Very nice. Thanks for taking your time to write this up.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:45:46 PM EST
Good Job and thanks for sharing!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:46:04 PM EST
Outstanding. Thanks for the write up.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:46:54 PM EST
Great post and pics. Sounds like you had a good time. Wish I could find time to do something of that nature. Arfcom is everywhere!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:47:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/19/2008 3:47:59 PM EST by MonkTx]

Originally Posted By Colt_45:





This piece of abstract art was so bad it killed this pigeon.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/xdalfalkif/CIMG1340.jpg





Comedy gold.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:48:48 PM EST
Nice work.

Hope you got to keep your place holder ticket.

You now have a story for posterity, and your kids.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:49:19 PM EST
I've never done this before, but I really think this particular post deserves it.

OP: Log out and back in. Welcome to Team.

rr
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:50:28 PM EST
shoulda put a boltface sticker somewhere!!


thanks for standing out there for the rest of us.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:50:48 PM EST
You done real good.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:51:06 PM EST
Thanks for being there.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:51:09 PM EST

Nice job! You are the real thing man!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:51:46 PM EST
Fantastic!

Even though the cold was a PITA, I'm sure it was a great experience.

Thanks for the pics and report!

Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:51:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By magnum_99:
Nice work.

Hope you got to keep your place holder ticket.

You now have a story for posterity, and your kids.


I was not allowed to keep the ticket. I needed it to get in the court.


Should I be worried that DK-prof is taking my picture?
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:52:49 PM EST
That's awesome. I wish I could have been there. This thread is full of epic potential.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:53:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/19/2008 3:54:22 PM EST by Gamma762]
Outstanding. Thanks for posting.


Originally Posted By xdalfalkif:
There are three guards that monitor the court room. Under the seats where they sit were two small 12x12x4 boxes wrapped in a plastic/foil wrap. I wanted to ask what they were after the case but I forgot.

SWAG would be they are automatic defibrillators.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:53:27 PM EST
Absolutely awesome post. Next best thing to being there.

Great pics, enjoyable read and I like your distaste in art. Poor pigeon.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:53:40 PM EST
Thanks for being there the day our rights were finally recognized!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:53:53 PM EST
Well done!

Epic thread potential!

Jim
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:54:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
I've never done this before, but I really think this particular post deserves it.

OP: Log out and back in. Welcome to Team.

rr
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:54:43 PM EST
You sir, are hardcore! Good on ya for doing this, and reporting it back to us.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:54:54 PM EST
Thanks for the report! I wish I could have been there.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:55:20 PM EST


Nice Job!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:55:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By xdalfalkif:

Originally Posted By magnum_99:
Nice work.

Hope you got to keep your place holder ticket.

You now have a story for posterity, and your kids.


I was not allowed to keep the ticket. I needed it to get in the court.


Should I be worried that DK-prof is taking my picture?


DK is only dangerous around geese and dresser drawers.

Welcome to the team courtesy of ragedracer1977
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:57:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/19/2008 4:10:43 PM EST by Vepr]



The sentence on this homeless man's sign makes no sense. I think what he means is that the 2A protects states but not DC. I didn't talk to him.


His myspace:
profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=222467067

Probably the most well spoken homeless man I've seen...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=53UP1GGYXvg
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:59:01 PM EST
Epic. Thanks for actually doing what a lot of us weren't able to do ourselves and having the courtesy to post pics.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:59:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By swingset:
You sir, are hardcore! Good on ya for doing this, and reporting it back to us.


What the Swing Man says.

btw, the guy on the left in the 'I don't know pic' is Vin Syp-something or other. He writes a gun rights column in Shotgun News.



Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:59:32 PM EST
Very cool!
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 3:59:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By blcouch:
shoulda put a boltface sticker somewhere!!


thanks for standing out there for the rest of us.


I ordered a boltface t-shirt but it did not come in time

I wanted something subtle that most would not notice but those in the know would understand.

They wont let you protest or wear any sort of speech on court property.
Link Posted: 3/19/2008 4:00:10 PM EST
Way to go!


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