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Posted: 1/3/2020 5:33:35 PM EDT
They are doubling down again.

If I missed any, please let me know. (Updated... I missed some!)

HB 426 Prohibited public carrying of certain firearms; penalty.
Prohibited public carrying of certain firearms; penalty. Prohibits the carrying of a loaded shotgun or rifle in places open to the public in certain cities and counties. Current law prohibits the carrying in such locations of certain loaded firearms with high-capacity magazines, silencers, folding stock, or long ammunition or a loaded shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered. The bill also eliminates a current exception to the prohibition on carrying such firearms in places open to the public for persons having a valid concealed handgun permit.

SB 240 Firearms; removal from persons posing substantial risk of injury to himself, etc., penalties.
Firearms; removal from persons posing substantial risk; penalties. Creates a procedure by which any attorney for the Commonwealth or any law-enforcement officer may apply to a general district court, circuit court, or juvenile and domestic relations district court judge or magistrate for an emergency substantial risk order to prohibit a person who poses a substantial risk of injury to himself or others from purchasing, possessing, or transporting a firearm. If an emergency substantial risk order is issued, a judge or magistrate may issue a search warrant to remove firearms from such person. An emergency substantial risk order shall expire on the fourteenth day following issuance of the order. The bill requires a court hearing in the circuit court for the jurisdiction where the order was issued within 14 days from issuance of an emergency substantial risk order to determine whether a substantial risk order should be issued. Seized firearms shall be retained by a law-enforcement agency for the duration of an emergency substantial risk order or a substantial risk order or, for a substantial risk order and with court approval, may be transferred to a third party 21 years of age or older chosen by the person from whom they were seized. The bill allows the complainant of the original warrant to file a motion for a hearing to extend the substantial risk order prior to its expiration. The court may extend the substantial risk order for a period not longer than 180 days. The bill provides that persons who are subject to a substantial risk order, until such order has been dissolved by a court, are guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor for purchasing, possessing, or transporting a firearm; are disqualified from having a concealed handgun permit; and may not be employed by a licensed firearms dealer. The bill also provides that a person who transfers a firearm to a person he knows has been served with a warrant or who is the subject of a substantial risk order is guilty of a Class 4 felony. The bill creates a computerized substantial risk order registry for the entry of orders issued pursuant to provisions in the bill.

HB 355 Firearm transfers; criminal history record information checks, penalty.
Firearm transfers; criminal history record information checks; penalty. Requires a background check for any firearm transfer and requires the Department of State Police to establish a process for transferors of firearms to obtain such a check from licensed firearms dealers. A transferor who fails to obtain a required background check and sells the firearm to another person is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The bill exempts transfers (i) between immediate family members; (ii) that occur by operation of law; (iii) by the executor or administrator of an estate or by the trustee of a testamentary trust; (iv) at firearms shows in accordance with law; (v) that are part of a buyback or give-back program; (vi) of antique firearms; (vii) that occur at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or any other area designed for the purpose of target shooting or for use during target practice, a firearms safety or training course or class, a shooting competition, or any similar lawful activity; or (viii) that are temporary transfers that (a) occur within the continuous presence of the owner of the firearm or (b) are necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm. The bill removes the provision that makes background checks of prospective purchasers or transferees at firearms shows voluntary.

HB 425 Transfer of multiple firearms; report to the Department of State Police.
Transfer of multiple firearms; report to the Department of State Police. Requires any dealer who sells, trades, or transfers more than two firearms to an individual in a single transaction to report such transaction to the Department of State Police. The bill also provides that the State Police shall maintain multiple firearms transaction records for 12 months. Current law states that State Police shall maintain multiple handgun transaction records for 12 months.

HB 427 Manufacture, import, sale, transfer, or possession of undetectable firearms; penalty.
Manufacture, import, sale, transfer, or possession of undetectable firearms; penalty. Creates a Class 5 felony for any person who manufactures, imports, sells, transfers, or possesses any firearm that, after removal of all parts other than a major component, defined in the bill, is not detectable as a firearm by the types of detection devices, including X-ray machines, commonly used at airports for security screening. The bill updates language regarding the types of detection devices that are used at airports for detecting plastic firearms.

HB 421 Firearms, ammunition, etc.; control by localities by governing possession, etc., within locality.
Control of firearms by localities. Grants localities authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance, resolution, or motion governing the possession, carrying, storage, or transporting of firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof in the locality. Various provisions limiting such authority are repealed. Provisions limiting the authority of localities and state governmental entities to bring lawsuits against certain firearms manufacturers and others are also repealed.

The bill also provides an exception to the requirement that an ordinance enacted regarding the disposition of certain firearms acquired by localities must provide that any firearm received be offered for sale by public auction or sealed bids to a person licensed as a dealer. The bill allows such ordinance to provide that if the individual surrendering the firearm requests in writing that the firearm be destroyed, then such firearm will be destroyed by the locality.

HB 463 Allowing access to firearms by minors; penalty.
Allowing access to firearms by minors; penalty. Provides that any person who negligently leaves a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any person under the age of 18 is guilty of a Class 6 felony. Current law provides that any person who recklessly leaves a loaded, unsecured firearm in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of any child under the age of 14 is guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.

HB 459 Possession or transporttion of firearms following convictions for certain misdemeanor crimes.
Possession or transportation of firearms following convictions for certain misdemeanor crimes; restoration of rights; penalty. Prohibits a person who has been convicted of assault and battery when the person intentionally selects the person against whom a simple assault is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color, or national origin from possessing or transporting a firearm. A person who violates this provision is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The bill provides for a process by which a person convicted of such crimes may petition the circuit court for a reinstatement of his right to possess or transport a firearm.

HB 458 Purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms; fugitives; penalty.
Purchase, possession, and transportation of firearms; fugitives; penalty. Provides that it is a Class 1 misdemeanor for any person who is a fugitive to purchase, possess, or transport a firearm. The bill also updates the criminal history record information check form to inquire if the applicant is a fugitive, as defined in the bill.

HB 450 Appeal of involuntary admission order; possession of firearms; penalty.
Appeal of involuntary admission order; possession of firearms; penalty. Provides that a person who is involuntarily admitted or ordered to mandatory outpatient treatment may not purchase, possess, or transport a firearm until his right to do so is restored by a court regardless of the outcome of any appeal of that order. A violation of this prohibition is a Class 1 misdemeanor. A third or subsequent offense is punishable as a Class 6 felony.

HB 318 Ammunition for a firearm on school property; Class 1 misdemeanor for possession, penalty.
Possession of ammunition on school property; penalty. Provides that a person is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor if he knowingly possesses ammunition for a firearm upon (i) the property of any public, private, or religious elementary, middle, or high school, including buildings and grounds; (ii) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (iii) any school bus owned or operated by any such school.

HB 260 Firearms; transfer, criminal history record check delay.
Transfer of firearms; criminal history record check delay; penalty. Increases from the end of the next business day to within five business days the time in which State Police must advise a dealer if its records indicate that a firearms buyer or transferee is prohibited from possessing or transporting a firearm and the time after which a dealer may complete the sale or transfer without a response from the State Police. The bill removes the option in current law that a dealer may immediately complete the sale or transfer if he is advised by the State Police that a response will not be available within the required timeframe.

HB 264 Concealed handgun permits; demonstration of competence.
Concealed handgun permits; demonstration of competence. Removes the option for concealed handgun permit applicants to demonstrate competence with a handgun by completing an electronic, video, or online course conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor. The bill does not affect any in-person means of satisfying the requirement to demonstrate competence with a handgun under current law.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:35:22 PM EDT
Fuck these people.  Seriously.  They seem to not give a single shit.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:36:53 PM EDT
So is the VCDL still going to discourage people from carrying rifles now? A lot of good that did....first thing they went after.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:37:07 PM EDT
CoC
CoC
CoC

they want a war I think
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:37:29 PM EDT
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Well no shit. Most people don't seem to understand that they're taking away the scum's (tax payers) firearms for a reason.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:37:31 PM EDT
This is their answer to the planning of a peaceful and lawful assembly of people. How can Lobby Day be a success when dealing with these types? I'm still going!
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:38:11 PM EDT
If this is the line in the sand, I don’t blame those not willing to fight. But for those that do, I pray for a pile of brass at your feet at enemies foreign or domestic.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:39:55 PM EDT
Seems like they think they can protect themselves by creating more laws hoping the state will fall on the sword enforcing.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:40:36 PM EDT
All I have left is COC, but there's a lot of it.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:40:54 PM EDT
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Oh, I get it.  I get it 1000%.

And I also understand why nothing we say will stop them, because they have an ultimate goal that require us to be disarmed prior to their ability to achieve it.

We're going to have to fight.  Maybe not today, maybe not after the 20th.  But we are going to have to fight or submit/die.  History tells us so.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:41:31 PM EDT
Every single one of those bills is trash.

They solve no problem and only create criminals out of thin air.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:43:29 PM EDT
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Oh, I get it.  I get it 1000%.

And I also understand why nothing we say will stop them, because they have an ultimate goal that require us to be disarmed prior to their ability to achieve it.

We're going to have to fight.  Maybe not today, maybe not after the 20th.  But we are going to have to fight or submit/die.  History tells us so.
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Well no shit. Most people don't seem to understand that they're taking away the scum's (tax payers) firearms for a reason.
Oh, I get it.  I get it 1000%.

And I also understand why nothing we say will stop them, because they have an ultimate goal that require us to be disarmed prior to their ability to achieve it.

We're going to have to fight.  Maybe not today, maybe not after the 20th.  But we are going to have to fight or submit/die.  History tells us so.
Agree. 100%.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:43:46 PM EDT
Fucking fuck fuckery!
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:44:47 PM EDT
Those of you saying not to carry a long gun on 1/20 better rethink your stance.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:45:47 PM EDT
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Every single one of those bills is trash.

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Which is the point. Sure we might say it, but I think most don't really believe it.

If you were the CEO of a company would you like the idea that a temp secretary or printer repair guy could fire you?
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:47:05 PM EDT
And thing is....this shit will make it's way to NC...none us are safe.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:48:06 PM EDT
Friday afternoon, so you know its good.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:49:32 PM EDT
Boys, we are going to need artillery.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:50:10 PM EDT
lol When would the public carry one be in effect? Certainly not by the 1/20 rally?
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:50:45 PM EDT
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100%. It's time for a display.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:51:42 PM EDT
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Who gives a shit? They could ban every fuckin one of em tomorrow morning and I'm still going.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:53:09 PM EDT
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If 30,000 people show up on 1/20 already acquiescing to the notion that rifles don't belong at the rally, then the gun grabbers have already won.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:53:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:53:25 PM EDT
Still going on the 20th

Still going to do what must be done when the time comes.

Fear is not an option at that point.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:54:18 PM EDT
what.. they didnt ban mail order ammo, reloading supplies and gun parts, and implement a $10.00 per rd tax on ammo?

well i guess they might release another list of antigun laws tomorrow doing just that.

Virginia will ABSOLUTELY be the kick off for the Boogaloo / Civil War 2.0 ...  unless someone higher up pressures these idiots to drop this bullshit before shit gets real.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:55:09 PM EDT
These people really want to start something.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:55:24 PM EDT
If they are trying to piss us off, it is working.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:55:25 PM EDT
They're scared.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 5:56:27 PM EDT
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I'd bet that they'll try to ram that one through and will get enough Republicans to vote yes on it to meet the 4/5ths majority needed for it to go into effect immediately.
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They need 80% majority, if what others have said is accurate, to pass something as an emergency measure that goes into effect before July 1.

It wouldn't surprise me if enough RINOs vote yes.... they're likely as scared of 1/20 as the Democrats.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:00:24 PM EDT
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Those of you saying not to carry a long gun on 1/20 better rethink your stance.
If 30,000 people show up on 1/20 already acquiescing to the notion that rifles don't belong at the rally, then the gun grabbers have already won.
QFT

It'll be known as COMPLY DAY instead of Lobby Day if that were to happen.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:00:42 PM EDT
I mean all they have to do is move to a free state!

Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:01:27 PM EDT
Soooo since I believe the dems are specifically doing all this in order to elicit a direct, possibly violent, response my question is why are they trying to get a this particular response?

Is this some sort of insane election gamble to get the public opinion to feel for them or something? Is this Bloomberg or Soros?

Why would you want to publicly announce your attempt to turn citizens into overnight felons and continue to goad them into a direct confrontation where blood may be spilled?
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So is the VCDL still going to discourage people from carrying rifles now? A lot of good that did....first thing they went after.
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I'm curious about this too. I have a feeling that VCDL is going to adopt some NRA stances in the next week or two.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:09:25 PM EDT
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They need 80% majority, if what others have said is accurate, to pass something as an emergency measure that goes into effect before July 1.

It wouldn't surprise me if enough RINOs vote yes.... they're likely as scared of 1/20 as the Democrats.
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lol When would the public carry one be in effect? Certainly not by the 1/20 rally?
They need 80% majority, if what others have said is accurate, to pass something as an emergency measure that goes into effect before July 1.

It wouldn't surprise me if enough RINOs vote yes.... they're likely as scared of 1/20 as the Democrats.
Then it sounds like next year's VCDL day would be even more important.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:10:33 PM EDT
below are the four most vulnerable Dem State Senators and their contact info. We need to hit them hard. Post as much as you can and spread the word. They only have a two seat majority, so if we are going to win this fight, it's going to be by engaging in a full court press on these four. If you have any additional contact info for them, please post it below.

Go and do what we do best...

Ghazala Hashmi* - Senate District 10 (Western Richmond)
Twitter: @GhazalaHashmi
Instagram: @hashmi4vasenate
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SenatorGhazalaHashmi/
Email: [email protected]

John Bell* – Senate District 13 (Manassas to Leesburg)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnbellforvirginia/
Twitter: @DelegateJBell

Creigh Deeds – Senate District 25 (Western Charlottesville to Appalachia)
Twitter: @CreighDeeds
Instagram: @rcdeeds
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/creigh/
Richmond: (804) 698-7525 District Office: (434) 296-5491
Email: [email protected]

Lynwood Lewis - State Senate District 6 (Northampton to Accomack)
Twitter: @lynwoodlewis
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lynwoodlewisva/
Richmond: (804) 698-7506 District Office: (757) 787-1094
[email protected]

Tommy Norment - State Senate District 10 (East of Richmond)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/senatortommynorment/
Twitter: Tommy Norment
804.698.7503

*Newly elected
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:15:04 PM EDT
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I agree.  But not because it will make the Democrats reconsider.  Simply because it will make armed Virginians realize "we are not alone, there are lots of us."
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Soooo since I believe the dems are specifically doing all this in order to elicit a direct, possibly violent, response my question is why are they trying to get a this particular response?

Is this some sort of insane election gamble to get the public opinion to feel for them or something? Is this Bloomberg or Soros?

Why would you want to publicly announce your attempt to turn citizens into overnight felons and continue to goad them into a direct confrontation where blood may be spilled?
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While I have no doubt there are a lot of folks who are pushing this simply from a gun grabbing point of view (and only see it as such), I also have no doubts at this point that more powerful folks are pushing this to try to divide the country and force Trump to support one side or the other.  All of their efforts so far to get rid of Trump have failed so they're going all in.  Lots of reasons for this but primarily that Trump has thrown a monkey wrench into the wheels of a lot of powerful people's gravy trains of kickbacks, graft and other forms of corruption.
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I think Ruby is hot. Thankfully she's on our side :)
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:18:28 PM EDT
Well good for them. Anyone in VA goin to the rally really give a rat's fuckin ass what these tyrant scumbags do anymore?
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:18:44 PM EDT
Room is booked, will still go along with 2-3 with me.
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Virginia will ABSOLUTELY be the kick off for the Boogaloo / Civil War 2.0 ... unless someone higher up pressures these idiots to drop this bullshit before shit gets real.
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WHO higher-up? Bloomberg? Soros?  These Dems are bought and paid for by interests who want to see Americans disarmed.  Those interests WANT violence because then their complicit media can point to the violence and say "See? These gun nuts are maniacs! It's a good thing we passed these laws, or else there would have been MORE VIOLENCE!  See how hard we're working to keep you safe?"  And Karen With The Haircut, Susie Soccermom, Joe The Retired Cop, and Chris The GenderFluid Beta will Eat. That. Shit. UP.

I don't have answers about what to do, but I can tell you the bills in Virginia are All Part Of The Plan for putting teh peasants in their place.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:20:09 PM EDT
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I'd bet that they'll try to ram that one through and will get enough Republicans to vote yes on it to meet the 4/5ths majority needed for it to go into effect immediately.
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Those of you saying not to carry a long gun on 1/20 better rethink your stance.
I'd bet that they'll try to ram that one through and will get enough Republicans to vote yes on it to meet the 4/5ths majority needed for it to go into effect immediately.
That would seal the Republicans doom as a state-level party in Virginia.

ETA: I kinda like it, it leaves room for a true pro-liberty party.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:21:52 PM EDT
Wonder if there is any place to rent a tank
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:24:00 PM EDT
Governor Newsom and Co. "And if you even think about guns, you better call us up and apologize."
Now kiss the ring and get back to work slave.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:25:23 PM EDT
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This is their answer to the planning of a peaceful and lawful assembly of people. How can Lobby Day be a success when dealing with these types? I'm still going!
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They did this to reduce the number of folks that show up. Probably less then 15 folks show up open carrying rifles.
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:25:27 PM EDT
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what.. they didnt ban mail order ammo, reloading supplies and gun parts, and implement a $10.00 per rd tax on ammo?

well i guess they might release another list of antigun laws tomorrow doing just that.

Virginia will ABSOLUTELY be the kick off for the Boogaloo / Civil War 2.0 ...  unless someone higher up pressures these idiots to drop this bullshit before shit gets real.
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Or require you to be serial numbers on uppers like California
Link Posted: 1/3/2020 6:25:36 PM EDT
It is almost like the Democrats want us to go hot.
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lol When would the public carry one be in effect? Certainly not by the 1/20 rally?
They need 80% majority, if what others have said is accurate, to pass something as an emergency measure that goes into effect before July 1.

It wouldn't surprise me if enough RINOs vote yes.... they're likely as scared of 1/20 as the Democrats.
Then it sounds like next year's VCDL day would be even more important.
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