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Posted: 9/28/2016 7:34:27 AM EDT
http://www.sciencealert.com/cats-sailed-with-vikings-to-conquer-the-world-genetic-study-reveals


Thousands of years before cats took up residence in 37 percent of American households, and managed to outnumber dogs by roughly 75 million across the globe, they were hopping continents with farmers, ancient mariners, and even Vikings, scientists have found. The first large-scale study of ancient feline DNA has finally been completed, and the results reveal how our inscrutable friends were domesticated in the Near East and Egypt some 15,000 years ago, before spreading across the globe and into our hearts. The study was presented at the International Symposium on Biomolecular Archaeology in Oxford, UK last week, and sequenced DNA from 209 cats that lived between 15,000 and 3,700 years ago - so from just before the advent of agriculture right up to the 18th century. Found in more than 30 archaeological sites in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, these ancient feline specimens are helping researchers to finally piece together the beginnings of an animal that we share our beds with, but know surprisingly little about.

"We don’t know the history of ancient cats. We do not know their origin, we don't know how their dispersal occurred," one of the team, Eva-Maria Geigl, an evolutionary geneticist from the Institut Jacques Monod in France, told Ewen Callaway at Nature.

Analysing the DNA of cats found in ancient Egyptian tombs, burial sites in Cyprus, and an old Viking settlement in Germany, the team found that cats likely experienced not one, but two, waves of expansion during their early history. The first wave is a story you’re probably familiar with. When the team looked the mitochondrial DNA - genetic information that’s passed on from the mother only - they found that wild cats from the Middle East and the fertile eastern Mediterranean shared a similar mitochondrial lineage. This suggests that small wild cats spread through early agricultural communities, because they were attracted to the mice that were attracted to the grains. The farmers likely encouraged their presence, because, let’s face it, those rodent-killing machines would have been mighty cute company.

Then, thousands of years after this, the research points to a separate mitochondrial connection between cats descended from those in Egypt to ones in Eurasia and Africa. "A mitochondrial lineage common in Egyptian cat mummies from the end of the 4th century BC to the 4th century AD was also carried by cats in Bulgaria, Turkey and sub-Saharan Africa from around the same time," Callaway reports. This second wave of expansion has been attributed to ancient sea-faring people - farmers, sailors, and Vikings - because the cats were likely encouraged to stay on board to keep their rodent problem in check. Geigl cites cat remains with this same maternal DNA connection found at a Viking site in northern Germany, and dated to between the 8th and 11th century AD. "I didn’t even know there were Viking cats," Pontus Skoglund, a population geneticist from Harvard Medical School, who wasn't involved in the study, told Nature.

It's important to note that the results have yet to be presented in a peer-reviewed paper, so these are just the team's initial findings, and they could be subject to change as the analysis goes deeper. But that's an exciting prospect, because while we have the history of dog domestication pretty well mapped out, we're only just beginning to figure out the mystery behind our feline friends. Although, let's be honest, they probably prefer it that way.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:40:51 AM EDT
I had a cat that could have been a Viking. Berserk as heck.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:41:28 AM EDT
Maine Coon?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:44:19 AM EDT
Anyone remember the Viking Kittens from years ago?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:46:01 AM EDT
At least a 10 millennia partnership and they're still assholes.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:47:00 AM EDT
http://www.public.asu.edu/~mharp/viking_kittens/VikingKitten.htm

seems to have been removed from youtube for some reason. cunts.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:51:25 AM EDT
Crazy cat lady + shield, battle ax and sword = Viking Shieldmaiden

Makes sense.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:53:32 AM EDT
Could you imagine the smell of cat shit on the viking boat
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:57:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:
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Probably smelled better than the Vikings and their disgusting food
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 7:57:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:
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Gunther was in charge of the litter box.

You had one job, Gunther.

Goddamnit.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:07:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2016 8:18:25 AM EDT by LibertyShip]
Common knowledge:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/vikingkittens

Edit. Beat me to it!
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:09:08 AM EDT
Cats conquered those lands. The Viking warriors were their staff.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:14:45 AM EDT
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Maine Coon?
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I come from the land of ice and snow........


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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:18:42 AM EDT
10,000 years ago, humans worshipped cats as gods.

Humans may have forgotten that, but the cats damn sure haven't.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:19:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/28/2016 8:21:11 AM EDT by Makarov]


DNA computer-image reconstruction

Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:24:45 AM EDT
Fuck cats
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:26:20 AM EDT
I keep a mouser in my house. He stays in the basement near my food storage. Every once in a while, I'll find a mouse, or part of a mouse, that he leaves as "gifts" for us.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 8:29:13 AM EDT
It's true.

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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:

At least a 10 millennia partnership and they're still assholes.
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If the mouse was your primary food source for 10 millennia and pretty much the reason you were even kept around then you would be a asshole too.
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Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
10,000 years ago, humans worshipped cats as gods.

Humans may have forgotten that, but the cats damn sure haven't.
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ETA- There are four cats living in our house! I tell my wife she's one cat away from being a Crazy Cat Lady
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:45:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RR_Broccoli:
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"Row faster, you big monkey."
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:46:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slugball:
Maine Coon?
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Norwegian forest cat.

Similar.
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:
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I bet those vikings were a bunch of stinky fuckers to begin with.
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:
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It is a trivial task to throw the waste overboard. Why do you think they would keep it?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:02:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By LibertyShip:
Common knowledge:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/vikingkittens

Edit. Beat me to it!
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My expectation of this thread has now been fulfilled!




Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:03:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RR_Broccoli:
Cats conquered those lands. The Viking warriors were their staff litter box attendants.
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FIFY
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:08:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By richtherake:
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Well bless your heart.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:10:27 AM EDT
Yeah, they ate the rats.

Why would you not bring a few cats along?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:14:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
At least a 10 millennia partnership and they're still assholes.
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They don't give a shit about your assessment.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:18:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Slugball:
Maine Coon?
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Probably as the only 2 species that like water are the nordic cats and maine coon
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:19:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1srelluc:


If the mouse was your primary food source for 10 millennia and pretty much the reason you were even kept around then you would be a asshole too.
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Originally Posted By 1srelluc:
Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:

At least a 10 millennia partnership and they're still assholes.


If the mouse was your primary food source for 10 millennia and pretty much the reason you were even kept around then you would be a asshole too.
Ours was taking out squirrels and small rabbits-RIP Willy aka murderkitteh.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:24:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By titleiiredneck:
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FIFY.

TC
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:29:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KampusKop:



Norwegian forest cat.

Similar.
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Originally Posted By KampusKop:
Originally Posted By Slugball:
Maine Coon?



Norwegian forest cat.

Similar.


Sure would be cool if a link was proven.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:30:42 AM EDT
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Probably as the only 2 species that like water are the nordic cats and maine coon
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Originally Posted By Slugball:
Maine Coon?


Probably as the only 2 species that like water are the nordic cats and maine coon


Turkish van cats will swim.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:37:02 AM EDT
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Probably as the only 2 species that like water are the nordic cats and maine coon
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Originally Posted By Baldmonk:
Originally Posted By Slugball:
Maine Coon?


Probably as the only 2 species that like water are the nordic cats and maine coon


Not necessarily. I've had Maine Coon who hated water, and regular old short hair black and white DSH who would get in the shower with me and rub against my legs while I showered. If I soaked in the tub, she'd hop on in with me to get pet.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:38:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KampusKop:

Norwegian forest cat.

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Originally Posted By KampusKop:
Originally Posted By Slugball:
Maine Coon?

Norwegian forest cat.

Similar.

Yes.


Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:48:21 AM EDT



Lucy hasn't evolved much from the Viking days. She was born in a literal swamp and is a murder machine. She especially has a taste for the geckos that get in.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:48:54 AM EDT
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Ancestors must have been conquered by vikings
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:49:36 AM EDT
No matter what a cat is looking at, the cat is wondering if it is small enough to kill and eat.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:56:06 AM EDT
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When the first permanent colony's on Mars are landed, cats will be there.

Just as Viking Warriors sought new lands and brought cats with them on ships, so shall new explorers of Mars.

You will never escape them. Not on this world, not even on two worlds.
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Originally Posted By Him:
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Cats are nature's most perfect killing machine on land. Everything about them, from a small house cat to the largest tiger, is designed for hunting and killing prey. Even "domesticated" cats are still fairly wild inside.

Remember, when your cat jumps on your chest while you're asleep tonight, the only reason he doesn't kill and eat you is because he doesn't want to empty the litterbox himself...

Link Posted: 9/28/2016 12:18:26 PM EDT
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