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Posted: 11/25/2014 1:34:08 AM EDT
I'm guessing Brown had the slide a bit out of battery.



That's some scary shit to think about.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 1:46:58 AM EDT
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 1:51:09 AM EDT
So if he had a striker fired piston the gentle giants would had finally ripped it from the officer racked the slide and shot the officer?
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 1:56:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By criio1:
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Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:00:10 AM EDT
What pistol was he carrying?
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:03:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Really?

Clear your Glock, and pull the slide back about 1/4". Take note of the position of the barrel. It should visibly drop a little. Pull the trigger, and the striker will still release, but it may or may not make good contact with the primer in that position. Release the slide, and the trigger is still dead.

With a DAO or DA/SA gun, you can keep trying without doing anything to re-cock the gun.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:04:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Grendel-OK:
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The pic is buried in the riot thread. It was a Sig P226/P229 in .40.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:04:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull



^This, in spades!
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:07:07 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:15:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:21:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:

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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


If it was an ammunition issue and it was a Glock, there wouldn't be rioting in the streets right now.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:23:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.

Then The Hague would have charged the PD with war crimes and use of WMDs.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:24:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By uafgrad:


Not if it was out of battery like his sig was
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Originally Posted By uafgrad:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Not if it was out of battery like his sig was


I love my Glocks and am carrying one on duty right now.

But yeah, it won't fire with the slide pushed back.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:34:07 AM EDT
Most guns won't, but at least Glock has a short reset when the slide is pushed out of battery.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:38:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.



Out of battery due to the bad guy pressing against the muzzle? You WANT your gun to fire out of battery?

Oh, wait. You're talking about the Glock Grenade option. Blow the bad guy up! I SEE NOW!
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 2:42:12 AM EDT
Sig 229 in 40
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 3:09:59 AM EDT
So the lesson here is we should all carry revolvers.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 3:21:58 AM EDT
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^This, in spades!
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Originally Posted By OnlytheTip:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull



^This, in spades!


What you did there...I see it.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 3:33:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
So the lesson here is we should all carry hammerless revolvers.
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Link Posted: 11/25/2014 3:45:59 AM EDT

As a Glock guy this has always been a concern.

Link Posted: 11/25/2014 4:32:12 AM EDT
I may or may not have just grabbed a CZ75 P07 off buds after reading this thread.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 5:14:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
So the lesson here is we should all carry revolvers.
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Grab the cylinder on a revolver, if it can't turn they cant shoot you.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 5:14:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By neverenough86:
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I got 2 of them, and a P09, you chose well
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 5:21:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:

And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.


In BROAD DAYLIGHT.


Oh, the horror.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 5:22:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 5:24:19 AM EDT
Well, you might be able force a Glock slide into battery (assuming use of both hands) and get a shot off--even with the bad guy leaning on the gun. Obviously the slide would not cycle in this situation because you'd be holding it shut. This has even been taught in some classes. Not sure how it would go with a hammer fired gun like a classic Sig.

I'll take Glock for the win here.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 5:48:26 AM EDT
what is meant by double strike?
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:07:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By neverenough86:
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You're gonna love that gun.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:09:40 AM EDT
No shot two times and no clearance drill? Fail.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:14:55 AM EDT
Interesting.

I do have one DA/SA pistol - a sig P226.
Had a beretta before that , I will always have at least one pistol like this just to maintain familiarity with that type of action.

Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:15:42 AM EDT
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Glock would have blown up and killed them both.
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.

Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:40:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
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Hard to do a clearance drill when you have some big bastard trying to take your gun.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:48:05 AM EDT
Walther P99.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:52:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By glocke12:
what is meant by double strike?
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.
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Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.


Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:55:10 AM EDT
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what is meant by double strike?



When you pull the trigger, it doesn't fire, and you can pull it again without having to rack the slide.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:55:16 AM EDT
Though this thread will go on and on, the first guy to say his slide was out of battery already solved the mystery.
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Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull


Glock would have blown up and killed them both.



Not left any witnesses in a 500' radius either.


Link Posted: 11/25/2014 7:57:15 AM EDT
Should have had a 1911. The concussive force of the hammer fall alone would have blown him out of the vehicle.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:01:41 AM EDT
I got laughed out of a thread when I mentioned that revolvers have the advantage of not being able to be pushed out of battery at contact distances.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:05:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mossberg:
I got laughed out of a thread when I mentioned that revolvers have the advantage of not being able to be pushed out of battery at contact distances.
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If a revolver is gripped in such a way that the cylinder can not turn it will not fire in double action mode.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:08:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ED_P:
Though this thread will go on and on, the first guy to say his slide was out of battery already solved the mystery.
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This. I carry a SIG for work but would take a Glock over it any time. Having said that, it's not the arrow, it's the Indian.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:09:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

As a Glock guy this has always been a concern.

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Myself as well.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:10:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yojimbo:


If a revolver is gripped in such a way that the cylinder can not turn it will not fire in double action mode.
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Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
Originally Posted By Mossberg:
I got laughed out of a thread when I mentioned that revolvers have the advantage of not being able to be pushed out of battery at contact distances.


If a revolver is gripped in such a way that the cylinder can not turn it will not fire in double action mode.


Yes, you can also get something between the hammer and the frame in single action. I contend both of those things are much more difficult to do than push a semi auto out of battery.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:22:15 AM EDT
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^This, in spades!
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Originally Posted By OnlytheTip:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull



^This, in spades!


A Glock out of battery will still fire?

Never knew that.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:25:55 AM EDT
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^This, in spades!
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Originally Posted By OnlytheTip:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull



^This, in spades!



you be racist.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:43:29 AM EDT
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How are you going to do a clearance drill, with a bad guy holding on to your gun???

This isn't commando day at the range, this is real life.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:48:03 AM EDT
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Walther P99.
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Is this what Wilson was carrying?
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Is this what Wilson was carrying?
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Originally Posted By Plattekill:
Walther P99.



Is this what Wilson was carrying?

He was apparently carrying a Sig P229 in .40 sw.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:50:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Castillo:


A Glock out of battery will still fire?

Never knew that.
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By OnlytheTip:
Originally Posted By CRsmoker250:
Originally Posted By criio1:
And that's why I want a second strike option on my pistol.

Glock would have worked on the first trigger pull



^This, in spades!


A Glock out of battery will still fire?

Never knew that.


It doesn't. You did not know it because it is not true.
Link Posted: 11/25/2014 8:53:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
So the lesson here is we should all carry revolvers.
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I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand. Revolvers are more reliable than autos.
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