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Posted: 6/11/2011 2:29:40 PM EDT
Is it a 100% clone of the AR15? Are all parts interchangeable with an AR?

Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:33:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 2:38:14 PM EDT by LurchAddams]
I can't find it on DealExtreme's website.

Seriously, here are details. It's the Norinco CQ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco_CQ
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:33:37 PM EDT
Do they have an original idea ever


What a worthless bunch of people
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:33:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LurchAddams:
I can't find it on DealExtreme's website.


Its in the surefire knockoff section.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:34:05 PM EDT
Where does the battery pack plug into??
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:37:02 PM EDT
I remember a few Canadians here saying they were ho-hum at best - about on par with the worst of AR-15s. Fun to shoot, usable, enjoyable but don't allow your life to rely on it.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:39:01 PM EDT
how much does it cost?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:39:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:40:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:42:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:43:00 PM EDT
WalMart doesn't have them? How can that be?

Oh and fuck China
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:43:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 2:43:32 PM EDT by capnrob97]

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

Around $600 to $700 canadian
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:43:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 2:44:26 PM EDT by N1Rampage]

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

I found it's about 600-700 USD.

EDIT: Beaten by 30 seconds.

http://www.leverarms.com/polytech-cq-a1.html
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:44:15 PM EDT
I found this on Wikipedia:

While the American AR-15/M16 rifles are built in T70-74 aluminum, the Chinese Type CQ is built in T60-60 aluminum, used to allow the process of Metal Injection Molding to be used instead of forging.


MIM receiver?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:45:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 2:46:32 PM EDT by LuckyDucky]

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

Around $600 to $700 canadian

So it costs MORE than the cheapest AR in the US. Niiiiiiiice. Must be a mid to upper level AR.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:45:37 PM EDT
what could possibly possess somebody to buy that shit?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:45:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

$699
http://www.wanstallsonline.com/norinco-ar-15-style-cq-.223-rem-restricted-nor-ar.html

Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:46:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
what could possibly possess somebody to buy that shit?

Shit sucks in Canada? I don't think they have the same market supply we have. We're pretty spoiled here - minus the Chinese/Norinco stuff.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:48:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4v50:
I found this on Wikipedia:

While the American AR-15/M16 rifles are built in T70-74 aluminum, the Chinese Type CQ is built in T60-60 aluminum, used to allow the process of Metal Injection Molding to be used instead of forging.


MIM receiver?

Is that the same as cast?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:49:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

Around $600 to $700 canadian

So it costs MORE than the cheapest AR in the US. Niiiiiiiice. Must be a mid to upper level AR.

I think ARs are a lot more expensive in Canada than here.

It would have to sell for around $300 here.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:52:05 PM EDT
It would be a cold day in hell before I bought a Chicom AR.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:52:49 PM EDT
american AR's cost a hell of a lot more up here. tend to start around 1300 and up.

I don't have a norc AR, but I've heard they're decent for fucking around with. We can only shoot them at the range anyways, so i'm sure they're fine for that.

At least the chinese make a damn fine m14 for a quarter of the price of that springfield junk
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:53:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

Around $600 to $700 canadian

So it costs MORE than the cheapest AR in the US. Niiiiiiiice. Must be a mid to upper level AR.

I think ARs are a lot more expensive in Canada than here.

It would have to sell for around $300 here.

What's the cheapest US made AR you can get there?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:54:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By targettarget:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

Around $600 to $700 canadian

So it costs MORE than the cheapest AR in the US. Niiiiiiiice. Must be a mid to upper level AR.

I think ARs are a lot more expensive in Canada than here.

It would have to sell for around $300 here.

What's the cheapest US made AR you can get there?

I'm pretty sure they build bargain bin AR's for the same or slightly less than a norc costs.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:55:16 PM EDT


I think ARs are a lot more expensive in Canada than here.

It would have to sell for around $300 here.


What's the cheapest US made AR you can get there?
The Plinker Plus is around $650, or the DPMS Panther Lite.

Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:56:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 2:57:01 PM EDT by LuckyDucky]
Cheapest I've seen is about $600 and if you build your own, you can get under $600.

ETA: And these aren't injection molded either.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:57:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RUM:
Do they have an original idea ever


What a worthless bunch of people


They were the inventors of gun powder, astronomy, rockets etc. read some history books man
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:57:37 PM EDT
Let the Canadians have them,along with milk in a bag....
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 2:58:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
what could possibly possess somebody to buy that shit?

For canadians, it's half the price of an american AR, and is perfectly reliable for plinking at the range, which is all we can do with them.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:01:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kcolg30:
Where does the battery pack plug into??


Yeah funny.

But they own half your country and you don't even know itl
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:03:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fishy0689:

Originally Posted By SevenMMmag:
what could possibly possess somebody to buy that shit?

For canadians, it's half the price of an american AR, and is perfectly reliable for plinking at the range, which is all we can do with them.

What do you mean that is all you can do with them? You mean you can't hunt with them?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:04:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fishy0689:

Originally Posted By targettarget:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

Around $600 to $700 canadian

So it costs MORE than the cheapest AR in the US. Niiiiiiiice. Must be a mid to upper level AR.

I think ARs are a lot more expensive in Canada than here.

It would have to sell for around $300 here.

What's the cheapest US made AR you can get there?

I'm pretty sure they build bargain bin AR's for the same or slightly less than a norc costs.


If I'm patient and keep my eyes open, I can put a kiss together out of the used market in the EE for about 500-450, but I'm talking Johny Cash style, not assemblies.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:05:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By kcolg30:
Where does the battery pack plug into??


Yeah funny.

But they own half your country and you don't even know itl


THey own 3/4 of the world and we don;t know it. Try to look at every major consumer product in the world and chances are you will see the words MADE IN CHINA/PRC on it. And you Brits are not immune - you just don;t wanna fess to it.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:10:33 PM EDT
That looks like a 14.5 inch barrel to me. What do they do with all the dead bodies in Canada as a result of thing being legal without a tax stamp?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:10:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By fishy0689:
american AR's cost a hell of a lot more up here. tend to start around 1300 and up.

I don't have a norc AR, but I've heard they're decent for fucking around with. We can only shoot them at the range anyways, so i'm sure they're fine for that.

At least the chinese make a damn fine m14 for a quarter of the price of that springfield junk


all that land and you cant go plinkin in the woods?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:16:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 3:16:32 PM EDT by Agent_Funky]
Originally Posted By Black-Tiger:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By kcolg30:
Where does the battery pack plug into??


Yeah funny.

But they own half your country and you don't even know itl


THey own 3/4 of the world and we don;t know it. Try to look at every major consumer product in the world and chances are you will see the words MADE IN CHINA/PRC on it. And you Brits are not immune - you just don;t wanna fess to it.


Oh I know alright.......you see me laughing?

Been seeing it coming for decades.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:20:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
how much does it cost?


You can't get it thanks to trade deals...

Yep, not legal to import here, the Canadians can get them though.

Yep. How much does it cost?

I found it's about 600-700 USD.

EDIT: Beaten by 30 seconds.

http://www.leverarms.com/polytech-cq-a1.html


WTF? I built my Del-Ton for less than that... with options...
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:28:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RUM:
Do they have an original idea ever


What a worthless bunch of people


lol because theres not 23984729384723 U.S. companies pumping out their own AR-15 clone.

Also see: AK-47
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:28:54 PM EDT
Is that a 14.5" barrel on that?
Looks kinda short in the pic.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 3:59:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 4:05:21 PM EDT by thylaughingman]
The pic in the OP does have a 14.5 in barrel. It also has a happy switch..

eta: And MIM has got to be the shittiest method for making a metal product. You do not want to fly in an aircraft or drive in a vehicle that has critical parts made in this manner, yet alone shoot a rifle with receivers produced like that..
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:01:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 4:02:21 PM EDT by FluffyTheCat]

Listen up and don't be a schmoe.

American ARs are very expensive here. They are expensive because of the crazy US export policies. And this can make it very expensive to import a US firearm.

Believe it or not, it cost me $800 to import a Tactical Operations F-51 rifle. I wanted the gun so I paid Questar International their fee to import it.

Anyway, back to the Chinese AR. I had a chance to examine one last year at the range. The receivers were forged and I was very surprised with the apparent quality. I took a look at the bolt carrier key and it was properly staked. The whole thing looked like a solid rifle; however, it had a goofy pistol grip.

For the record, I do not own a Chinese AR. My AR is a frankenrifle that is made of Bushmaster, RRA, US GI and Stag Arms parts.


Fluffy
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:03:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By 4v50:
I found this on Wikipedia:

While the American AR-15/M16 rifles are built in T70-74 aluminum, the Chinese Type CQ is built in T60-60 aluminum, used to allow the process of Metal Injection Molding to be used instead of forging.


MIM receiver?

Is that the same as cast?


No, casting is stronger. MIM is metal powder that is injected into a mold which is then heated. The metal fuses together at that point, but is only surface hardened (think case hardened). If the hardened surface is worn out, the exposed metal is subject to disintegration. At least with casted parts, the hardening is more uniform throughout.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:05:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/11/2011 4:07:56 PM EDT by CATARGADELENDAEST]
I am really interested in the specs on the fixed stock of the chicom AR.
Anyone know about it?
Is it as good as a Colt CS stock?
Can I purchase just a darned chicom fixed stock?

Edit:
The CiCom's man the gift shop at Yeosimite National Park!
Modern History Sucks!
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:05:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By glockguy2102:
Is that a 14.5" barrel on that?
Looks kinda short in the pic.

I do believe they are 14.5.

For restricted rifles, the bbl length doesn't matter up here, but in exchange, we can only shoot at a range.


Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:06:09 PM EDT
Don't worry, the lead in the plastic handguards blocks the radiation from the barrel.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:08:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RUM:
Do they have an original idea ever


What a worthless bunch of people

Just like all of those american manufacturers making 1911s and ARs, right?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:11:17 PM EDT
That's about the same price as an entry level U.S. made AR. Why the hell would you buy the chicom crap even if you were allowed?
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:16:02 PM EDT
i've seen some in the hands of thai marines... and i remember some at a funshow in the early 90s for cheap.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:24:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chupacabras:
That's about the same price as an entry level U.S. made AR. Why the hell would you buy the chicom crap even if you were allowed?

because you yanks make it expensive for us canadian terrorists to import american guns.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:25:04 PM EDT
It would have to be in teh 400$ dollar range for me to consider it. I would throw it down the driveway a few times for that distressed look.
Link Posted: 6/11/2011 4:28:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By 4v50:
I found this on Wikipedia:

While the American AR-15/M16 rifles are built in T70-74 aluminum, the Chinese Type CQ is built in T60-60 aluminum, used to allow the process of Metal Injection Molding to be used instead of forging.


MIM receiver?

Is that the same as cast?
Go to 1911 forum. Ask about MIM. Wear asbestos suit so you can survive the molotov barrage.

Basically, it's one step below casting on the QC scale. Casting is pouring liquid metal into a cast. MIM is pouring powder medal in a cast, and then heating it up so it melts.

Lots of 1911 parts are made this way since it's hard to cast and machine some of the more intricate parts.

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