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Posted: 6/8/2011 4:06:24 AM EST
Holy balls.  Check the pics.  Scroll through about 12 or so pics and you'll see a nice shot of the receiver.

Pics

Hopefully this isn't excessivley dupalicious.

EDIT: Changed the title to reflect that the rifle is 2001, not 2011 and that corrected fact makes it unlikely that Guerena was a member here.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:09:15 AM EST
[#1]
Damn.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:09:47 AM EST
[#2]
Quoted:
Damn.


I wonder if anybody has a clue on a user name.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:10:33 AM EST
[#3]
Holy Fuck


ETA
Investigators say that it was fully loaded but the safety was engaged and no shots had been fired...
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:10:58 AM EST
[#4]
This whole mess stinks to high hell. I hope someone can get to the bottom of this.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:12:14 AM EST
[#5]
Correction:  the rifle pic is #20.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:13:00 AM EST
[#6]
wow
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:13:38 AM EST
[#7]
Pic 20 of 23.


Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:14:58 AM EST
[#8]



Quoted:


Damn.






 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:15:33 AM EST
[#9]
Is it 2001 or 2011?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:15:34 AM EST
[#10]
tag



and that dark charcoal paint?

Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:15:43 AM EST
[#11]

Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:16:07 AM EST
[#12]
That's the 2001 rifle. Lots of those no longer belong to the original owners, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:16:29 AM EST
[#13]
Quoted:
Damn.


+1


I do not like the apparent trend of men being shot in their own home because they are standing in their own hallway with a firearm.  


Add in the other new trend of police confiscating/stomping on cellphones, and it will only further broaden the divide.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:17:14 AM EST
[#14]
Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?


Closer look does look like 2001.  Were there Limited Edition Arfcom rifles in 2001?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:17:43 AM EST
[#15]


 









As many of the LEOs here know I am generally supportive of the police but at first glance this whole story stinks to high heaven.


 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:18:11 AM EST
[#16]
Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?


I saw 2001

and a Wilson .45
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:18:35 AM EST
[#17]
tag
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:18:43 AM EST
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?


Closer look does look like 2001.  Were there Limited Edition Arfcom rifles in 2001?



Of course.

Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:18:45 AM EST
[#19]
Quoted:
That's the 2001 rifle. Lots of those no longer belong to the original owners, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.


I wonder if the original owner could be found.  Castle Arms had a list going in a thread, 10 years ago.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:18:48 AM EST
[#20]
Quoted:
That's the 2001 rifle. Lots of those no longer belong to the original owners, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.


Certainly a possibility, its a 10yo rifle

Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:19:12 AM EST
[#21]
That really sucks
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:19:12 AM EST
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?


Closer look does look like 2001.  Were there Limited Edition Arfcom rifles in 2001?


Yep I have one.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:19:33 AM EST
[#23]







 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:19:44 AM EST
[#24]
roll call of AZHTF members?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:20:22 AM EST
[#25]



Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:21:45 AM EST
[#26]
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:22:03 AM EST
[#27]
If they shoot to stop the threat why did two or three folks do mag dumps into this guy? No way those were controlled 3 to 4 round bursts.


What were they looking for and what did they find?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:22:13 AM EST
[#28]
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:22:14 AM EST
[#29]
Guerena was 26, so it seems very unlikely that he is the original owner of a 2001 rifle.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:23:28 AM EST
[#30]
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:23:41 AM EST
[#31]
Did they find drugs? That is why they were there.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:25:08 AM EST
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Damn.


+1


I do not like the apparent trend of men being shot in their own home because they are standing in their own hallway with a firearm.  


Add in the other new trend of police confiscating/stomping on cellphones, and it will only further broaden the divide.


Evil will thrive if righteous men stand by and do nothing.



As for the rifle...HOLY FUCK!
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:25:44 AM EST
[#33]
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:27:40 AM EST
[#34]
If all the stories of being a drug dealer were true it isn't surprising he would be in possession of a stolen rifle. It would be interesting to hear the steps the rifle took from arfcom to his hands.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:28:33 AM EST
[#35]



Quoted:


Did they find drugs? That is why they were there.


No but they did fine a police officer's uniform in the house, so it must mean he was part of a home invasion crew.



Actually they found a boarder patrol cap in his garage..



 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:28:41 AM EST
[#36]
Anybody ever come up with a good reason why they took his ribbons and medals and not logged them in as seized evidence?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:29:16 AM EST
[#37]
OST
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:29:21 AM EST
[#38]



Quoted:


If all the stories of being a drug dealer were true it isn't surprising he would be in possession of a stolen rifle. It would be interesting to hear the steps the rifle took from arfcom to his hands.


If they would have found drugs there would be pictures..



 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:31:53 AM EST
[#39]
Quoted:
Anybody ever come up with a good reason why they took his ribbons and medals and not logged them in as seized evidence?


Source?

Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:31:54 AM EST
[#40]




Quoted:

This whole mess stinks to high hell. I hope someone can get to the bottom of this.




I'm sure the self-investigation by the PCSD will be thorough and unbiased.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:32:07 AM EST
[#41]





Quoted:



first I've heard of this.  what's the synopsis, another SWAT raid gone terribly wrong?





http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1183509&light=




 
 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:34:16 AM EST
[#42]
Quoted:
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?


if you don't know it's them?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:34:43 AM EST
[#43]
Quoted:
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?


I do.


Especially when they thought it was a home invasion.



Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to do a no-knock warrant and go in blasting away doing mag dumps, then realize you fucked up and change your story a dozen times?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:34:53 AM EST
[#44]



Quoted:


So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?






 
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:35:15 AM EST
[#45]
How have so many people posting in this thread missed the 64 page thread with all the Guerena shooting info?



This is a partial dupe, but I think it's fair to have its own thread since the rifle is news for the site.



Still, how do you miss THAT thread?
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:35:39 AM EST
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Damn.


+1


I do not like the apparent trend of men being shot in their own home because they are standing in their own hallway with a firearm.  


Popo no longer what to fuck around with somebody who is armed.  Call it cost/benefit, risk/reward, or whatever, the law generally allows a cop acting in good faith to assume you are a threat if you don't drop the gun immediately.  That appears to be the new SOP:  Gun in hand = threat.  Threat = good shoot.  Good shoot = no criminal or civil penalty.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:38:59 AM EST
[#47]
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:40:58 AM EST
[#48]
Quoted:
How have so many people posting in this thread missed the 64 page thread with all the Guerena shooting info?

This is a partial dupe, but I think it's fair to have its own thread since the rifle is news for the site.

Still, how do you miss THAT thread?




Are you a slow kid?  Seriously?  

Why would a post a thread about Guerena's rifle in a 65 page shit fest where the same 10 cop haters are arguing with the same 10 cop lovers?

This thread is in no way a dupe of that shit fest.

All though I'm sure people will attempt to turn it into one.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:41:48 AM EST
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?


I do.


Especially when they thought it was a home invasion.



Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to do a no-knock warrant and go in blasting away doing mag dumps, then realize you fucked up and change your story a dozen times?



According to the report they ran sirens and knocked, so if that's true he damn well knew it was the police.
Link Posted: 6/8/2011 4:41:48 AM EST
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Anybody ever come up with a good reason why they took his ribbons and medals and not logged them in as seized evidence?


Source?



It's in several of the news stories in the other thread. They took his medals and didn't log them.

I think they wanted a nice trophy of their "heroism".
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