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Posted: 6/8/2011 5:06:24 AM EDT

Holy balls. Check the pics. Scroll through about 12 or so pics and you'll see a nice shot of the receiver.

Pics

Hopefully this isn't excessivley dupalicious.

EDIT: Changed the title to reflect that the rifle is 2001, not 2011 and that corrected fact makes it unlikely that Guerena was a member here.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:09:15 AM EDT

[#1]

Damn.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:09:47 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Damn.

I wonder if anybody has a clue on a user name.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:10:33 AM EDT

[#3]

Holy Fuck

ETA
Investigators say that it was fully loaded but the safety was engaged and no shots had been fired...

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:10:58 AM EDT

[#4]

This whole mess stinks to high hell. I hope someone can get to the bottom of this.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:12:14 AM EDT

[#5]

Correction: the rifle pic is #20.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:13:00 AM EDT

[#6]

wow

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:13:38 AM EDT

[#7]

Pic 20 of 23.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:14:58 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Damn.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:15:33 AM EDT

[#9]

Is it 2001 or 2011?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:15:34 AM EDT

[#10]

tag

and that dark charcoal paint?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:15:43 AM EDT

[#11]

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:16:07 AM EDT

[#12]

That's the 2001 rifle. Lots of those no longer belong to the original owners, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:16:29 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Damn.

+1

I do not like the apparent trend of men being shot in their own home because they are standing in their own hallway with a firearm.

Add in the other new trend of police confiscating/stomping on cellphones, and it will only further broaden the divide.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:17:14 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?

Closer look does look like 2001. Were there Limited Edition Arfcom rifles in 2001?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:17:43 AM EDT

[#15]

As many of the LEOs here know I am generally supportive of the police but at first glance this whole story stinks to high heaven.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:18:11 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?

I saw 2001

and a Wilson .45

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:18:35 AM EDT

[#17]

tag

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:18:43 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?

Closer look does look like 2001. Were there Limited Edition Arfcom rifles in 2001?

Of course.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:18:45 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
That's the 2001 rifle. Lots of those no longer belong to the original owners, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I wonder if the original owner could be found. Castle Arms had a list going in a thread, 10 years ago.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:18:48 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
That's the 2001 rifle. Lots of those no longer belong to the original owners, so it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Certainly a possibility, its a 10yo rifle

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:19:12 AM EDT

[#21]

That really sucks

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:19:12 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Is it 2001 or 2011?

Closer look does look like 2001. Were there Limited Edition Arfcom rifles in 2001?

Yep I have one.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:19:33 AM EDT

[#23]

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:19:44 AM EDT

[#24]

roll call of AZHTF members?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:20:22 AM EDT

[#25]

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:21:45 AM EDT

[#26]

Yes we had those rifles in 01. Given that these were sold 10 years ago and the age of the guy shot. It is very doubtful he purchased the rifle new.

Also, the pictures I've seen were very poor in quality, so getting the accurate number of that rifle may not be possible.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:22:03 AM EDT

[#27]

If they shoot to stop the threat why did two or three folks do mag dumps into this guy? No way those were controlled 3 to 4 round bursts.

What were they looking for and what did they find?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:22:13 AM EDT

[#28]

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:22:14 AM EDT

[#29]

Guerena was 26, so it seems very unlikely that he is the original owner of a 2001 rifle.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:23:28 AM EDT

[#30]

So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:23:41 AM EDT

[#31]

Did they find drugs? That is why they were there.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:25:08 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn.

+1

I do not like the apparent trend of men being shot in their own home because they are standing in their own hallway with a firearm.

Add in the other new trend of police confiscating/stomping on cellphones, and it will only further broaden the divide.

Evil will thrive if righteous men stand by and do nothing.

As for the rifle...HOLY FUCK!

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:25:44 AM EDT

[#33]

first I've heard of this. what's the synopsis, another SWAT raid gone terribly wrong?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:27:40 AM EDT

[#34]

If all the stories of being a drug dealer were true it isn't surprising he would be in possession of a stolen rifle. It would be interesting to hear the steps the rifle took from arfcom to his hands.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:28:33 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Did they find drugs? That is why they were there.

No but they did fine a police officer's uniform in the house, so it must mean he was part of a home invasion crew.

Actually they found a boarder patrol cap in his garage..

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:28:41 AM EDT

[#36]

Anybody ever come up with a good reason why they took his ribbons and medals and not logged them in as seized evidence?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:29:16 AM EDT

[#37]

OST

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:29:21 AM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

If all the stories of being a drug dealer were true it isn't surprising he would be in possession of a stolen rifle. It would be interesting to hear the steps the rifle took from arfcom to his hands.

If they would have found drugs there would be pictures..

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:31:53 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Anybody ever come up with a good reason why they took his ribbons and medals and not logged them in as seized evidence?

Source?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:31:54 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

This whole mess stinks to high hell. I hope someone can get to the bottom of this.

I'm sure the self-investigation by the PCSD will be thorough and unbiased.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:32:07 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

first I've heard of this. what's the synopsis, another SWAT raid gone terribly wrong?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1183509&light=

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:34:16 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?

if you don't know it's them?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:34:43 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?

I do.

Especially when they thought it was a home invasion.

Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to do a no-knock warrant and go in blasting away doing mag dumps, then realize you fucked up and change your story a dozen times?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:34:53 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:35:15 AM EDT

[#45]

How have so many people posting in this thread missed the 64 page thread with all the Guerena shooting info?

This is a partial dupe, but I think it's fair to have its own thread since the rifle is news for the site.

Still, how do you miss THAT thread?

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:35:39 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn.

+1

I do not like the apparent trend of men being shot in their own home because they are standing in their own hallway with a firearm.

Popo no longer what to fuck around with somebody who is armed. Call it cost/benefit, risk/reward, or whatever, the law generally allows a cop acting in good faith to assume you are a threat if you don't drop the gun immediately. That appears to be the new SOP: Gun in hand = threat. Threat = good shoot. Good shoot = no criminal or civil penalty.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:38:59 AM EDT

[#47]

Here is a link to a video of the operators in action.

http://www.kgun9.com/story/14736691/raw-video-pcsd-helmet-cam-clip-shows-swat-raid-and-firefight

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:40:58 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
How have so many people posting in this thread missed the 64 page thread with all the Guerena shooting info?

This is a partial dupe, but I think it's fair to have its own thread since the rifle is news for the site.

Still, how do you miss THAT thread?

Are you a slow kid? Seriously?

Why would a post a thread about Guerena's rifle in a 65 page shit fest where the same 10 cop haters are arguing with the same 10 cop lovers?

This thread is in no way a dupe of that shit fest.

All though I'm sure people will attempt to turn it into one.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:41:48 AM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
So uh who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to grab your rifle when the police are knocking on your door with a search warrant?

I do.

Especially when they thought it was a home invasion.

Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to do a no-knock warrant and go in blasting away doing mag dumps, then realize you fucked up and change your story a dozen times?

According to the report they ran sirens and knocked, so if that's true he damn well knew it was the police.

Posted: 6/8/2011 5:41:48 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Anybody ever come up with a good reason why they took his ribbons and medals and not logged them in as seized evidence?

Source?

It's in several of the news stories in the other thread. They took his medals and didn't log them.

I think they wanted a nice trophy of their "heroism".

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