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Posted: 2/15/2023 12:32:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: K5FAL]
I have an 1100 I'd like to use but the trigger group on it has no safety.  Legal or no?



I'll use another for 3 gun that has a safety

Link Posted: 2/15/2023 1:11:27 PM EST
[#1]
I've never seen or heard of that and would like to see a picture.

Do you need a safety?  I'd recommend one.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 1:30:46 PM EST
[#2]
Dunno, OP. I'd like a safety on my shotgun, but I don't have them on my striker pistols - nor do I want them.

But...one thing you will need in SHTF is a good shotgun or two. I think they will be useful for taking down small drones. Antifa has said they wanted to make small, homemade explosive drones.

They had another thread here showing a Russian dying a terrible death from a drone gas attack.( Speculation as to poison gas.) Whatever, drones will be the new sniper round to hunt people down. Now the only question is what is the best 12 ga round to bring them down?

Link Posted: 2/15/2023 1:43:24 PM EST
[#3]
I don't think there is any legal requirement for a safety on a shotgun, or any other firearm.....is there?  

Link Posted: 2/15/2023 1:45:52 PM EST
[#4]
I know nothing of tactical shotgunning.  I do not know the rules and regulations regarding that branch of competitive shotgunning.

In skeet if you call pull and your safety is on it's a lost target.  it's not a failure to fire (you get 2 of those per 25), its a flat out lost target.  It's not uncommon to find skeet guns with their safeties pinned.  It's a big deal, competitions are generally won in a shoot off after having shot 100 straight.  A loss due to a safety on and you're out of the running.

In trap, I think it is ruled as a Failure to fire, and you get 2 occurrences of that in a round of 25 - after that it's lost.  Basically you get 2 failures to fire for most any reason, then they are lost.

Sporting Clays - NSCA is the same organization as skeet (NSSA) - I'd guess its going to be a lost target.

Link Posted: 2/15/2023 1:54:19 PM EST
[#5]
Not sure about your local hunting laws or sporting clays. But as long as you keep the chamber empty while you're not shooting it should be safe.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 2:15:00 PM EST
[#6]

i would love to see a photo of that

mine looked like this


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Link Posted: 2/15/2023 2:35:24 PM EST
[#7]
If you were hunting with me and my dog your shotgun would need to be on safe unless you were about to shoot a bird.  No safety?  You can use my extra shotgun or wait in the truck.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 2:43:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando:
If you were hunting with me and my dog your shotgun would need to be on safe unless you were about to shoot a bird.  No safety?  You can use my extra shotgun or wait in the truck.
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You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 3:00:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:

You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
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Absolutely
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 3:06:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:

You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
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I sure do, no pheasant is worth the life of a fellow hunter and sure not worth the life of a good dog.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 3:16:05 PM EST
[#11]
The only shotguns I know of that do not have a safety are single barrel trap guns. Browning BT99 comes to mind. Dedicated gun for a specific discipline.  Other than that it’s a bad idea. A safety on any firearm is a good thing just ask Plaxico Burris.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 4:02:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:

You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
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Yes
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 4:12:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:

You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
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You don't?
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 4:30:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FB41:


You don't?
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Nope! I’m not judging. I’ve walked many a cornfield with large groups and never seen any body do it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 4:38:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By imq707s:
I don't think there is any legal requirement for a safety on a shotgun, or any other firearm.....is there?  

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This is the competition forum so I assume that’s the context
Originally Posted By Colt653:


i would love to see a photo of that

mine looked like this


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2275/1ED5ACF0-9BF4-4236-9B29-88F1CC77CEC0_jpe-2712072.JPG
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Me too
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 4:53:58 PM EST
[#16]
A dead safety is easy to fab out with a belt sander and pliers.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 5:00:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:

You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
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Absolutely.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 8:04:40 PM EST
[#18]
Just curious? If you guys carry concealed do you also keep a safety on?
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 8:14:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:
Just curious? If you guys carry concealed do you also keep a safety on?
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Shotguns aren’t pistols and shouldn’t be treated as such.

Always have the safety on in the field when hunting until Your ready to shoot.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 8:17:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:
Just curious? If you guys carry concealed do you also keep a safety on?
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I do

I grew up shooting 1911's

shot IPSC and IDPA with 1911's and 2011's

built up decades of muscle memory

I usually carry an M&P, but get them with a 1911 style thumb safety









Link Posted: 2/15/2023 9:05:12 PM EST
[#21]
I guess I should have been more specific.

I want to use a Remington 1100 in 3 gun competition.

I have two, but the one I'd like to use has a trigger group with no safety.  The whole assembly was swapped out back in the 80's for a hair trigger with no safety for Sporting Clays competition.

I'll post a pic when I can get my imageshack account working.
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 9:50:27 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/15/2023 9:53:31 PM EST
[#23]
I have shot 3-gun stages where the stage description states something like....

"start position, face downrange, shotgun butt on belt, safety on, engauge targets as the become visible "

I remember running the shot timer on a match once, and the shooter had an AK type rifle, and small paws, and I thought, it's gonna take him forever to take that safety off the AK......and it did.

TL;DR - you want a safety on your 1100
Link Posted: 2/15/2023 10:05:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By K5FAL:
I guess I should have been more specific.

I want to use a Remington 1100 in 3 gun competition.

I have two, but the one I'd like to use has a trigger group with no safety.  The whole assembly was swapped out back in the 80's for a hair trigger with no safety for Sporting Clays competition.

I'll post a pic when I can get my imageshack account working.
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No 3 gun competition is going to let you use a long gun without a safety unless it's a single or double barrel.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 10:41:50 AM EST
[#25]
Ok that's what I suspected.

Thanks guys.
Link Posted: 3/26/2023 8:37:15 PM EST
[#26]
@K5FAL

Is your (no safety) trigger group marked "Timney" anywhere ? Just tonight I've been learning about what you have More examples
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 8:36:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: K5FAL] [#27]
I just knocked it out so I could look.  

It has nothing on it whatsoever.

ETA it measures 3.5# on my trigger pull gauge.
Link Posted: 3/27/2023 9:15:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
The holster is the safety.
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Original Upload, I Just Shot Myself!
Link Posted: 7/8/2023 5:02:47 PM EST
[#29]
When you stage or abandon a gun, it must either be empty or have the safety engaged. Lack of a safety means you have to shoot or rack it empty each time.
Link Posted: 7/8/2023 5:54:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WalleyeHooker:

You keep your shotgun safety on until you jump a bird?
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Yes.

The process of shouldering involves actuating the safety. No effect on getting your shot off, if you have any coordination.
Link Posted: 7/8/2023 7:21:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/8/2023 7:23:07 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/8/2023 7:24:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/10/2023 8:37:37 PM EST
[#34]
Depends IMO.

For skeet, trap, Sporting Clays I don’t want or use one. For 3-gun or hunting, yes absolutely.
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