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Posted: 4/4/2015 8:09:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2015 8:09:03 AM EDT by Lancelot]
So uhh... I'm completely new to the competitive shooting scene. I plan to run what I have for now, but what are some good suggestions that I should keep an eye on?
What do you run?

Have some cash set aside for a 16" KAC SR15... but even with a MAMS, would it be comparable to all these dedicated competition setups? The ones I've seen at the range all seem to be tricked out in carbon fiber with really long barrels.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 7:24:58 PM EDT
Shoot what you like, that's pretty much what top shooters do. Optics depend on what class you want to shoot.

My guess is that if Jerry Miculek and I exchanged rifles that we would both place exactly the same as if we shot our own.

It is far more important for you to practice and get a bit of instruction than the type or brand of rifle you choose. Most shooters, not, all need a good trigger. Shoot what you have and work on movement, speed and accuracy. As time goes by you will learn what you like and don't like regarding weight, length, types of hand guards and grips, etc.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 7:41:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnson184:
So uhh... I'm completely new to the competitive shooting scene. I plan to run what I have for now, but what are some good suggestions that I should keep an eye on?
What do you run?

Have some cash set aside for a 16" KAC SR15... but even with a MAMS, would it be comparable to all these dedicated competition setups? The ones I've seen at the range all seem to be tricked out in carbon fiber with really long barrels.
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Try here.
http://3gn.ar15.com/forums/b/13_3_Gun_Nation.html
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 7:56:08 PM EDT
If you have a decent AR now, then go to a few matches and shoot. There is a lot of stuff to wade through and everyone wants a different set up. Most 3 gunners are not happy with their first set up.

I have shot 3 gun recreationally for about 5 years, about 10 plus matches a year. I have shot all lengths and weights of ARs. After a few years I believe, lighter is better and shorter is better, as long as you have a functional AR. LOL, duh. You can chase the tuning more than you shoot. Start simple and as you learn, you can upgrade. A good medium or heavy 1:8 barrel is the place to start.

Optics are a whole different discussion. I notice the irons and red dot shooters suffer greatly past 200 yards. I tried that the first year. Not fun. I have run a 1-4X Nikon Monarch for 4 years, but I will be going with a 1-6x Vortex this summer. Nothing wrong with 1-4x, but my eyes are getting older.

The point of all that is to impress that it never ends. Chasing the perfect AR will drive you crazy. Set a budget and don't dwell on the perfect set up. Don't go for any fad equipment until you see how you want to shoot.



Link Posted: 4/3/2015 8:06:09 PM EDT
I'm just starting to get into 3 gun. I've shot a few local matches and you see everything from stock M4's to full-on competition guns. I didn't want to build something 3 gun specific per se, so I ended up with a 16" middy with a decent 1/8 SS barrel w/ Wylde chamber, Rainier RAC muzzle brake, 12" DD FF rail, RRA 2 stage trigger, VLTOR A5 buffer & tube, and a Vortex Viper PST 1-4. It's proven to be a pretty good set-up. Accurate and soft shooting. I might eventually go to a 1-6 optic, and maybe a different trigger. My advice is shoot what you have and go from there. But a decent barrel, trigger, brake, and optic will help a lot.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 8:29:45 PM EDT
I shoot a 12.5" SBR personally. Typically a 17-18" Rifle gas length is best because you have more reach on long range shots and softer recoil with the rifle gas system.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 8:48:48 PM EDT
Stag 3 g
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 8:52:12 PM EDT
GO to a few matches with what you have. pay attention to what others have and are using. You'll learn as you go. I did.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 9:01:28 PM EDT
More than likely whatever you have now will serve you well until you figure out how serious you want to get into it
and what works for you

Since you are in OK you should check out boomershooter.com

Link Posted: 4/3/2015 9:21:22 PM EDT
I ran my first season with a PSA CHF 16 mid with YHM 12" quad rail with A2 FH and standard trigger. Used a millet 1-4 DMS for optics. Also ran a single stack 1911, I was never last place. Since replaced with all the comp stuff(18" odin works 3gun barrel, fortis brake and CMC tigger with burris xtr II). A real brake and a decent trigger are the biggest improvements for least amount of money and difference is night and day. An extended handguard was a necessity as we do a lot of barrier shooting from strange positions, I went with ALG 15". I think barrel length is a personal preference.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 11:53:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/3/2015 11:54:44 PM EDT by HeyCoach]
The key areas I believe to get the race upgrades (aside from practicing) are low mass bcg, empty out the buffer, get an adjustable gas block to tune to your light hand loads, carbon fiber free float tube, and a good comp (I love the SJC Titan).

ETA- I like a 2 stage trigger. RRA NM and you're good for a cheap trigger.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 11:58:08 PM EDT
After shooting matches with an EO-Tech, Aimpoint and 1-4x Nightforce, the variable optic has provided the best results.
Link Posted: 4/4/2015 7:10:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2015 7:12:19 AM EDT by lasnyder]
I use a RRA 16" mid, MI small diameter full float, modified Miculek comp, KAC vertical foregrip for monopod, RRA trigger, Enidine hydraulic buffer,A1 stock... TA31F scope... get a good 69grain load for longer than 200m... know your POI/POA for point blank head shots..... spend most of your time working with reloading the shotgun... you need good handgun skills, and they are harder to attain than long gun... work out how you plan to carry long gun ammo (shotgun)... the load 2/4 is the ticket, unless your club goes prone a lot... suggest a retention holster for the handgun

this is a repost, but pretty good idea of what we shoot down here... we don't have too many 400m ranges like Universal... recent Area 6 multigun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_q1DjWodl4
Link Posted: 4/4/2015 8:51:02 AM EDT
I run a S&W M&P-10, however like a couple of posters above have said. Run what you are comfortable with first. Then make changes later.
Link Posted: 4/4/2015 11:37:53 PM EDT
I ran the my 1st 6 matches with the rifle I had. Didn't hold me back. In the 2 years since then I have built a rifle just for the game. I'm gald I waited, because it gave me time to figure out exactly what I wanted.
Link Posted: 4/12/2015 5:16:11 PM EDT
Start with whatever you have available. My first match was shot with an ak. I did absolutely terrible but had a blast and surprisingly beat out a few people. I've since then moved up to an AR I built with a friend.
Link Posted: 4/27/2015 8:28:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 2:17:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JesseTischauser:
Check out the new entry level 3G from Rhino Arms. My goal with this rifle was to offer a truly 3-gun ready out of the box under $1500. Discount code JTRhino10 puts it under $1450.

Rhino Arms RA-15 3GR

Caliber: .223 Wylde
Barrel Length: 16" Mid Length Gas System or 18" Rifle Length Gas System
Gas Block: Adjustable
Muzzle Device: Compensator
Handguard: Carbon Fiber 15" or 17"
BCG: Standard or Rhino Low Mass
Trigger: Rhino Single Stage 3lb NiB coated Wire EDM'd out of Tool Steel
Grip: Ergo
Stock: Magpul CTR or ACE ARFX w/carbon fiber sleeve

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hey Jesse are they going to sell those triggers separately?
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 7:26:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 8:54:22 AM EDT
one of the better shooters at the last club match I went to had one of the new 13.5" Armalite 3-gun rifles. It was pretty badass, and the guy said he paid $1,250 for it.
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 12:28:45 PM EDT
Run what you have now. Check out what other people are using to get max exposure to not just different makes of guns, but how they are setting them up.

I ran a Rock River HBAR when I first started. Heavy, but it is what I had. It ran and ran though, but most importantly it got me into the game and able to learn without dumping a bunch of money upfront.

Get shooting first and then spend money later.
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 12:42:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JesseTischauser:


Yes. They sell the accessories through AP Customs. My discount code works there too.

AP Rhino Stuff
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Originally Posted By FLIPnRR:
Originally Posted By JesseTischauser:
Check out the new entry level 3G from Rhino Arms. My goal with this rifle was to offer a truly 3-gun ready out of the box under $1500. Discount code JTRhino10 puts it under $1450.

Rhino Arms RA-15 3GR

Caliber: .223 Wylde
Barrel Length: 16" Mid Length Gas System or 18" Rifle Length Gas System
Gas Block: Adjustable
Muzzle Device: Compensator
Handguard: Carbon Fiber 15" or 17"
BCG: Standard or Rhino Low Mass
Trigger: Rhino Single Stage 3lb NiB coated Wire EDM'd out of Tool Steel
Grip: Ergo
Stock: Magpul CTR or ACE ARFX w/carbon fiber sleeve

<a href="http://s613.photobucket.com/user/jtischauser/media/Rhino%20Arms/51203D6A-69C6-4B45-A403-66DBC07C7A54_zpsivgqevec.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt219/jtischauser/Rhino%20Arms/51203D6A-69C6-4B45-A403-66DBC07C7A54_zpsivgqevec.jpg</a>
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hey Jesse are they going to sell those triggers separately?


Yes. They sell the accessories through AP Customs. My discount code works there too.

AP Rhino Stuff

Those triggers look very different. Are they offering different models?
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 1:18:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/30/2015 1:30:10 PM EDT
The flat one looks pretty sweet.
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