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Posted: 5/25/2002 3:07:05 AM EDT
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Pre ban COLT or Pre ban Bushmaster are PROBABLY the BEST "mil-spec" rifles on the market.Some others (fulton armory)are supposedly(sp) held to even tighter tolerances but they are post ban.
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Posted: 5/25/2002 4:22:10 AM EDT
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Closest AR-15 to mil-spec?
Colt AR-15 model 614. No doubt, hands down. Just lacking the M16A1 and US Property stamps. Otherwise identical. About $6-7k for a good one. (sorry, couldn't resist!) |
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Posted: 5/25/2002 5:26:05 AM EDT
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In current post ban production at a reasonable cost you would spell those choices as Bushmaster.
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Posted: 5/25/2002 6:08:34 AM EDT
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For a post-ban model, the Bushmaster is probably as close to mil-spec as any.
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Posted: 5/25/2002 7:20:51 AM EDT
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Well all M16A2, A3, A4 & M4 rifles have a 1:7 twist. So that pretty much eliminates Bushmaster as "milspec".
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Posted: 5/25/2002 8:40:49 AM EDT
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I think Christopher was more concerned about the construction of the rifle than the twist rate. The way it is put together, what it is built from, the way you take it down, etc...that sort of stuff.
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Posted: 5/25/2002 9:36:09 AM EDT
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Bushmaster makes 1:7 barrels in several profiles if that's what you want. But, given that I don't shoot many M856 tracers, the 1:9 twist is an IMPROVEMENT over the 1:7 military twist rate. Anyway, Colt is the only other AR manufacturer that's even in the running, and their ARs aren't anywhere near as close to Mil-Spec as a comparably-configured Bushmaster. Differences on current Colts: - Pivot screw instead of push-pin - Large-pin fire-control parts - Plastic trapdoor in stock - Plastic buffer (on some guns) No other manufacturer is close; the main difference is the barrels. Only Colt and Bushmaster make Mil-Spec barrels. -Troy |
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Posted: 5/25/2002 9:55:14 AM EDT
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Troy,
I agree with you. One thing I noticed though. Guys (and girls!) from my department ordered 175 Colt MB6601C’s. All of them have standard size fire control pins and front push pin. HOWEVER, some have the metal-hinged trapdoor/latch, some have the all-plastic trapdoor, and ALL have the plastic buffer. I couldn’t stand opening my rifle and looking at that gawdawful plastic buffer after years of seeing that greenish aluminum one. It was immediately replaced !! Edited to give credit to the women in my department that feel the need and satisfaction of having their own AR for patrol. |
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Posted: 5/25/2002 1:02:36 PM EDT
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One additional thing about the Colt plastic buffer that makes it a P.I.T.A. !! There is a hole on the side of the buffer that is big enough to let the buffer retaining pin enter. It takes about three hands and a screw driver to get it out once the pin goes in that hole! he
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Posted: 5/25/2002 6:53:47 PM EDT
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Another thing that hasn't been mentioned, if you're talking about the M16A2 than there is also the issue of the barrel.
Most 20" AR15's sold are HBAR's. The current 20" A2 rifles being used have a barrel that is a heavy barrel up front, and then necks down under the handguards. A few manufacturers offer uppers in this configurations (referred to as Government Profile), including Bushmaster. Also, if you look around you can find FN AR15 Government Profile uppers (FN has a contract with the military). |
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Posted: 5/25/2002 7:03:52 PM EDT
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There are no rifle currently made to mil-spec
only mil-spec rifles are Made, that is M16A1/A2 marked. Bushmaster's and colt's are the cloest to mil-spec has for finnishing! plus the bush and colt uses 4150 crome moly for barrels. my opionion is don't drink and internet at the same time i can't spell worth shit.... 9 beer's still counting... |
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