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Posted: 12/28/2005 4:11:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2005 5:33:10 PM EDT by chapperjoe]
a P7M8 and a HK94. I've burned through 4 UMP's and found them fun, but the allure of the 'classic' HK seems to draw me in more and more.

What should my next HK be, a '91, '93 or '89 ? (In terms of collectibility and value on the one hand and reliability and accuracy on the other.....)
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 4:27:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 4:30:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
ARFCOM says, get them ALL!


yeah and then I have to sell them all to eat. this time I'm thinking about just buying one and//////// ACTUALLY SHOOTING IT AND KEEPING IT!
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 4:33:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 4:51:07 PM EDT
Seems like a large selection of 91s out on the market at this time. Maybe you can find a good buy.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 5:31:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Shark15:
Seems like a large selection of 91s out on the market at this time. Maybe you can find a good buy.



my friend just got a CHERRY one. I had a thread about it a while ago - it was a gunbroker gun and he jumped on it. Iwas just up in NY and checked it out. IT's so gorgeous. sstraight up gorgeous. perfect condition, port buffer, the whole deal. he's very into evil features but this gun is so pretty he's leaving the fixed stock as is. IT's that nice.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 8:20:07 PM EDT
You need a HK 91 of your own

In your last post for your friend I mentioned that there were a few HK91s on HKpro that sold for $1,750 to 1,900. With extras.

I have a lot of HKs and the 91 is my favorite. I like my 94 and 93, but the 91 is the gun I shoot the most.

The SP89 will have the most collector value because there are fewer of them, plus they are great for MP5K hosts.

HK94 is 2nd for collector value, however thanks to the flood of CA DOJ HK94s the market is a bit down right now.

93 still commands a high price $2,200 to $3,000 depending on extras

91s are the least expensive because there are so many of them 50,000 or so. But it is a classic.

Some other classic HK Rifles to look at would be a HK SR9 TC. The SR9 lacks the flash hider of the 91, but it has a polygonal barrel and is very accurate. My 91 is MOA but a SR9 should be even better. Plus the SR9 is more rare than the 91.

The HK SL7 is another "classic" HK in my book. It is not as cool as a 91 but it is very sexy. And it will out shoot a 91.

One final classic HK you will need is a HK P9S. I love my P7M8 but the P9S is the most accurate handgun I own. Better than the USP Tactical and P7M8.

Chris
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 8:31:01 PM EDT
I'll sell you a nice HK93 to start your collection.

M.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 8:41:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 8:42:42 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 2:50:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By unkempt1:
world.guns.ru/assault/as75-e.htm

world.guns.ru/assault/hk416-1.jpg




tell you the truth, no t interested at all. POF has a working accurate chrome lined to heck and beyond upper that is doing great to ppl who have it.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 2:51:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
I'll sell you a nice HK93 to start your collection.

M.



we should talk.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:22:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 3:22:54 AM EDT by Mikeypss]
Go for the big one

PSG-1
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:14:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 4:15:16 AM EDT by osprey21]
How 'bout a nice PARS.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 4:40:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By osprey21:
How 'bout a nice PARS.



I'm steaming like a kettle..... you win.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:23:13 AM EDT
HK91
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:56:12 AM EDT
I know you asked about HK's, but if money's tight and you're willing to consider a clone, you might want to think about a PTR91 from JLD. I've heard lots of good things about this gun and in fact have one on order. It's not going to be the equal of a real HK, but fit and finish are supposed to be pretty good and they have a reputation for functioning reliably. You can pick one up at SARCO for between $700 and $1,000 depending on model.

If you have your heart set on a real HK though, I'd agree on the 91 (since it appears you already own the 94). Plus, I think the existence of a quality clone alternative in the PTR91 has helped moderate the price of the real thing.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 6:08:42 AM EDT
other option is a galil..... also thinking about vector V93.... guess I want a 223....
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 9:25:41 AM EDT
I've got an absolutely NIB unfired SP89 for sale...
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 9:30:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 9:32:22 AM EDT by unkempt1]

Originally Posted By hrt4me:
I've got an absolutely NIB unfired SP89 for sale...



Nice!!! I shot one and it was a lot of fun
what are they running now adays?

ETA:IIRC, the one I shot cost the guy around $1000 (many moons past I'm sure)
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 9:32:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hrt4me:
I've got an absolutely NIB unfired SP89 for sale...



price?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 9:38:26 AM EDT
HK93. I always wanted one, but I can't justify the post-89 prices...

I'd say SP89 if you didn't already have a HK94. Just my thoughts.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 9:54:25 AM EDT
I'd go with a HK91 - lots of cheap mags available, the price is coming down because of the JLD products. Heck, get a JLD PTR... Everyone has to have a 7.62 NATO or two... or three...

Spooky
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 10:38:46 AM EDT
93
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 10:59:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By General_Tso:
HK93. I always wanted one, but I can't justify the post-89 prices...

I'd say SP89 if you didn't already have a HK94. Just my thoughts.



question is v93 vs hk93.... what am I getting for the extra 1.5K$?

with the 9mm's I know I'm buying reliaiblity, but what about the 556's, I hear good things bout vector...
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:04:20 PM EDT
HK21, HK33 or how about a 51?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:34:40 PM EDT
Does it have to be a HK? My favorite of my HK collections isn't even a HK its my CETME. If your lucky enough to find one its something to think about.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:40:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Shark15:
Does it have to be a HK? My favorite of my HK collections isn't even a HK its my CETME. If your lucky enough to find one its something to think about.



aren't those a dime a dozen 300$ ??
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:45:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By Shark15:
Does it have to be a HK? My favorite of my HK collections isn't even a HK its my CETME. If your lucky enough to find one its something to think about.



aren't those a dime a dozen 300$ ??



Not the real ones CJ
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 5:46:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 5:49:05 PM EDT by Shark15]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By Shark15:
Does it have to be a HK? My favorite of my HK collections isn't even a HK its my CETME. If your lucky enough to find one its something to think about.



aren't those a dime a dozen 300$ ??


Not if it says this on it



I have a full picture of it in the HK picture thread
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 6:02:33 PM EDT
I've been getting goo doffers from my threads, got offerred various '93's from 1875-2500$ varying on condition..... do I go high end like new condition pop it in safe forever, or low end get it refinished ?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 6:05:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 7:20:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
I've been getting goo doffers from my threads, got offerred various '93's from 1875-2500$ varying on condition..... do I go high end like new condition pop it in safe forever, or low end get it refinished ?



Good question - can you put a NIB 93 in the safe and not shoot it? Or can you live with a slightly used 93, spend $100 or so on a refinish job and be able shoot it whenever you want to? I am having the same problem. I'm leaning towards a shot-little, almost NIB 93. I don't have the discipline to NOT shoot it...

Spooky
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 8:59:36 PM EDT
I owned the V-93 and was very happy with it. Didn't have a single failure to function at any point. I liked the size and weight of the 93 more so than the 91 so I ended up buying an HK-93 and selling the Vector 93. The Vector 93 was a great gun while I had it, if you're looking for a lower priced 93, you will probably be pretty happy with the Vector. The Vector's have a lifetime warranty and I've heard they're great about their service, though I've never had to call them.

Just be aware that the Vector receivers are a smidge bigger than the real HK ones so the stocks are tight getting off and going on. This is really the only issue I have with the Vectors.
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 4:40:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
you want to shoot it or jerk off to it?



unsure. I like my jerkoff guns. Got a AMD built by JNEWT and a KXS74 coming from him too. not planning on shooting either TTYTT.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 7:00:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:

Originally Posted By General_Tso:
HK93. I always wanted one, but I can't justify the post-89 prices...

I'd say SP89 if you didn't already have a HK94. Just my thoughts.



question is v93 vs hk93.... what am I getting for the extra 1.5K$?

with the 9mm's I know I'm buying reliaiblity, but what about the 556's, I hear good things bout vector...



I've heard good things about the Vector, too, but I have not played with one. The concensus I hear is they are not on a par of HK but good. What you are getting for the extra money is the ability the sell it for a similar price. If its a toy, I'd opt for the Vector. If a collector, HK93 of course. Vector's aren exactly cheap either (at least to me).

When I hit the lotto, what an arsenal I will have.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 9:46:58 AM EDT
Is gunbroker the best place to look for HK 91s for sale? Where else should I look?
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 9:55:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By M11293:
Is gunbroker the best place to look for HK 91s for sale? Where else should I look?



Or

gunsamerica.com

auctionarms.com

Sturmgewehr.com

hkpro.com

subguns.com
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:33:31 AM EDT
for the price of a NIB '93 I think I can pull a PTR, V93 AND Dpms 308 Ap4.... (2900$ total).... all new. think I might pass on the real deal HK's.....
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 5:37:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 5:38:36 PM EDT by boomfab]

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
for the price of a NIB '93 I think I can pull a PTR, V93 AND Dpms 308 Ap4.... (2900$ total).... all new. think I might pass on the real deal HK's.....



You pay for what you get.

You can get +98% 93's for less than $2K.

Link Posted: 1/1/2006 6:13:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By boomfab:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
for the price of a NIB '93 I think I can pull a PTR, V93 AND Dpms 308 Ap4.... (2900$ total).... all new. think I might pass on the real deal HK's.....



You pay for what you get.

You can get +98% 93's for less than $2K.




Not always.. I would put up what I build in my shop against factory anyday of the week. function is equal and I clean up my welds....
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 6:37:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By boomfab:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
for the price of a NIB '93 I think I can pull a PTR, V93 AND Dpms 308 Ap4.... (2900$ total).... all new. think I might pass on the real deal HK's.....



You pay for what you get.

You can get +98% 93's for less than $2K.




I've gotten a couple of those offers, but NIB is still pushing at least 500$ more.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:08:59 AM EDT
There is a HK91 that looks to be in good shape over on subguns.com for $1300. The seller is in Alaska and has to move to California - that guy should kick his own ass... He also has an Aug for $2700 - If I could just dig up the money...

Spooky
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:45:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spooky130:
There is a HK91 that looks to be in good shape over on subguns.com for $1300. The seller is in Alaska and has to move to California - that guy should kick his own ass... He also has an Aug for $2700 - If I could just dig up the money...

Spooky



wow will look into that.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:55:30 AM EDT
I should have put a link in the first one...

Subguns HK91/Steyr AUG

Maybe you could get a package deal - only $4000 for the pair...

Spooky
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 11:14:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Spooky130:
I should have put a link in the first one...

Subguns HK91/Steyr AUG

Maybe you could get a package deal - only $4000 for the pair...

Spooky



just sent him an email. Unless its sold already, I'll psot pics when I get it. can't pass up that price.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 11:15:51 AM EDT
If I do get that one, I guess this will be irrelevant!
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