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Posted: 7/26/2004 2:51:55 PM EDT
I was at the range this weekend and decide to try some trap shooting. loved it but now i need to buy a shotgun. I am looking for a semi auto or over under for about 400-500. any ideas on what to get or know of a good place with a good selection? went to big 5 today and they had shit.
Link Posted: 7/26/2004 3:08:32 PM EDT
Try a Stoeger 2000. It is a very good semi-auto that uses the Benelli short-recoil action. They can be had for around $400. I almost exclusively use this gun for trap.

The other option is to look at a used field grade Beretta 390. That should run around $550. You can still get new 390s at Wal-Mart, but only in black synthetic. They are very reasonable for $530.
Link Posted: 7/26/2004 3:59:51 PM EDT
I haven't seen the Stoger so I cannot comment on that one.

however, I think Beretta just about owns the auto loader market in sporting clays. I like the 391s alot more than the 390s but the 390 is still a good choice. I use a Beretta X-trema exclusively these days. It points and shoots as well or better than my Perazzis or Krieghoffs. lus it's a lot cheaper. It's still outside your price range, but you may be able to find a used X-trema w/o camo for $600 or $700.

A Winchester Super X 2 may also be a good choice.

I've had "specific use" shotguns for years and finally settled on the X-trema for all my hunting and clay target shooting. If you look at that as an option, make sure you can shoot steel out of whatever you pick. Steel isn't the best but it is the cheapest no-tox shell available.

Link Posted: 7/27/2004 9:27:51 AM EDT
anyone try or have a IZH-27 its a russian gun and it looks brand new with all the chokes for $500.00. I cant find much info online or any reviews.
Link Posted: 7/27/2004 9:30:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/27/2004 9:31:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 7/27/2004 11:58:16 AM EDT
I'm not so sure how badly I'd want a Stoeger SxS or O/U. I recently tried a Stoeger Uplander Supreme in 20gauge. Not a bad feeling little SxS. However, it failed to fire about 1 out of 3 rounds with factory ammo. It didn't seem to matter which barrel I was using.

That is my only experience with Stoeger.
Link Posted: 7/27/2004 12:16:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/27/2004 1:03:10 PM EDT
thanks for your help i just bought the condor supreme.

they are back ordered right now so i should have it in 3-4 weeks. this is my first new shotgun so I am pretty happy. the gune feels good and the action is smooth. it opens and closes like it should not like the piece of shit at big 5.
thanks for your advice. any tips on break in?
Link Posted: 7/27/2004 2:54:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/25/2004 5:47:29 PM EDT
Just took my Beretta ES-100 Pintail (26") out today for 3 rounds of skeet at the Elm Fork Gun Club here in Dallas, today.

I've horsed around in the past out on the farm having a friend put a target up with a hand launcer, but this is my first time shooting on a formal skeet range. The auto was nice to use, as I've always had pump guns. The Beretta is my first auto, and I LOVE IT!!!

The gun shot better than I did, every shell fired. I wish my performance was as good! EEEK!!!!

Time to start shootin shotgun more, SKEET IS FUN!!!
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