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Posted: 10/11/2010 5:02:28 PM EDT
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That's interesting. Somebody had one for sale at a gunshow here about a month ago.
I touched it just so I could say I had. I guess I can go wash my hand now. |
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Posted: 10/12/2010 6:47:27 AM EDT
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Yeah, they have been saying that for some time. They are an industry partner now, so you can ask them yourself. I still don't believe it, but I guess we'll see shortly.
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Posted: 10/12/2010 7:14:22 PM EDT
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Two weeks.
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Posted: 10/12/2010 7:36:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Two weeks.  |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 2:44:49 PM EDT
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fuck that funny.. These fuckin people
2 WEEKS!!! These things really are an enigma. I've seen exactly one that I know is real. It was from 'the member with the white tile' the day it arrived. since that post litereally nothing ever since. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 2:53:26 PM EDT
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fuck that funny.. These fuckin people 2 WEEKS!!! These things really are an enigma. I've seen exactly one that I know is real. It was from 'the member with the white tile' the day it arrived. since that post litereally nothing ever since. I've had three in the last 9 months. They are very real. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 5:24:03 PM EDT
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http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semiforum.cgi?read=106701 The link refers back to this site That thread didn't take long to get trashed, hence the reason it just links to the site. basically couple pissed dudes called out the shrike guy for broken promises and other BS standard shrike thread that ended up in the shitter. |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 6:01:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: what do u mean you've had three? are you a dealer, how much do they cost? Quoted: fuck that funny.. These fuckin people 2 WEEKS!!! These things really are an enigma. I've seen exactly one that I know is real. It was from 'the member with the white tile' the day it arrived. since that post litereally nothing ever since. I've had three in the last 9 months. They are very real. hmmmm  |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 6:14:17 PM EDT
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TWO WEEKS! |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 6:44:43 PM EDT
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Wow.
I was THIS close to putting a deposit down on one...hell I can't even remember the year (2001?) but it had literally just been announced that they were taking downpayments and I thought it was relatively inexpensive for a belt-fed (I want to say it was $2500 if you paid up front but I can't recall for sure). At the time ammo was 10 cents/round in quantity, even allowing for problems I figured it couldn't take more than 2 years to get released in some fashion. Then after sitting on the check for 2-3 days I decided that I really don't even shoot full auto very often so it wasn't the smartest purchase and I moved on to something else and kind of forgot about it. Years ago after SA got his and posted pics here proving it wasn't exactly vaporware but not really showing it running very well either I haven't followed the saga but I'm surprised they still haven't delivered on all of them. Probably a money loser at the original price so there's not much incentive to fulfill those particular backorders.....you can cancel and get your check back at any time remember! |
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Posted: 10/26/2010 7:13:44 PM EDT
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Frankly, I'm amazed there's still cash available to float the project. It reminds me of a videogame project from Silicone Knights, called "Too Human". The project was ~10 or so yrs old in the making before it finally hit the market. When it finally did come out, its reviews were lackluster, at best. The Shrike seems to be headed for a similar fate. Other products have come out since then that are proven, have an estabished market & co. support structure to ensure that they'll be a more stable investment. Promise, delay, promise, delay... Wash/rinse/repeat. Sometimes, a company is its own worst enemy.
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Posted: 10/26/2010 7:59:18 PM EDT
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Here is the original thread: Serious ? regarding a shrike
One of the guys who posted has been waiting eight years so far. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:47:28 AM EDT
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I wasn't working for ARES in 2001 but I wish I did. I remember the talk on a couple of the other boards(not forums). I wish I would have ordered many of them at the time and price. I had just gotten back to the US and was low on cash at that time and had 2 sniper projects and semi auto revolver project, but oh well I work here now so I get to use them.
Having worked for another "black rifle" company and having been exposed to these types of firearms from the age of 8 (got a M1 carbine for my bday) I can say this family of weapons is well worth the wait it took to get the whole family done and take the product to where it is now. I have played with the EX1-2 models and while still cool they are not near the refined weapon the current Shrike is. The current Shrike is thinner, lighter and more robust. The Shrike family covers almost all modern weapon needs from carbine, rifle, Squad auto, DMR, entry, confined space and all these configurations can be set up in 3 seconds to 3 minutes depending on the configuration. I have a great amount of time with a few of the current "trend" rifles and while a few of them bring real advancements to small arms none come as close or as far as the Shrike System. Trust me guys as a fellow military weapons gun nut and a legal expert on firearms(2 court cases) you need to be looking hard at this system, and I would ask if you have any tactical, technical or other questions please ask. I enjoy addressing these questions for a system that has so much to offer. While I wont trash another company I would love to engage in product comparisons. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:00:38 AM EDT
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I wasn't working for ARES in 2001 but I wish I did. I remember the talk on a couple of the other boards(not forums). I wish I would have ordered many of them at the time and price. I had just gotten back to the US and was low on cash at that time and had 2 sniper projects and semi auto revolver project, but oh well I work here now so I get to use them. Having worked for another "black rifle" company and having been exposed to these types of firearms from the age of 8 (got a M1 carbine for my bday) I can say this family of weapons is well worth the wait it took to get the whole family done and take the product to where it is now. I have played with the EX1-2 models and while still cool they are not near the refined weapon the current Shrike is. The current Shrike is thinner, lighter and more robust. The Shrike family covers almost all modern weapon needs from carbine, rifle, Squad auto, DMR, entry, confined space and all these configurations can be set up in 3 seconds to 3 minutes depending on the configuration. I have a great amount of time with a few of the current "trend" rifles and while a few of them bring real advancements to small arms none come as close or as far as the Shrike System. Trust me guys as a fellow military weapons gun nut and a legal expert on firearms(2 court cases) you need to be looking hard at this system, and I would ask if you have any tactical, technical or other questions please ask. I enjoy addressing these questions for a system that has so much to offer. While I wont trash another company I would love to engage in product comparisons. i'd LOVE to be looking hard at one.... sadly they don't seem to be available...... still |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 4:09:32 AM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 6:17:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.  |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 6:29:36 AM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 11:38:34 AM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK Which might be the case, but we have all heard the 2 weeks a number of times. If you guys don't actually have them out the door in two weeks, well, god help you for missing another delivery date. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 11:40:09 AM EDT
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what do u mean you've had three? are you a dealer, how much do they cost?
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fuck that funny.. These fuckin people 2 WEEKS!!! These things really are an enigma. I've seen exactly one that I know is real. It was from 'the member with the white tile' the day it arrived. since that post litereally nothing ever since. I've had three in the last 9 months. They are very real. hmmmm
Nope. I'm not a dealer, but I did pay out the nose for them. Because I wanted one now. I've gotten them from $5k-$7k. Not sure what they will finally be sold for, so I guess we'll see how much I ever over paid. But I always sold them for more then what I bought them for, guys seem them at the range, and just have to have them. Now. |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 11:57:54 AM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK you mean If I order now, in two weeks I will have a shrike beltfed upper? |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 12:13:54 PM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK I don't have a dog in this fight, but you're not serious are you? 
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Posted: 10/27/2010 12:36:19 PM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK you mean If I order now, in two weeks I will have a shrike beltfed upper? AAR is the mag fed only Shrike that can be configured to a belt fed at a later date. YES AAR uppers are in stock and so are many other ARES products the only thing that is not in stock for new orders are belt fed uppers, belt fed conversion kits and 20" barrels. SHRIKE Family of weapons AAR> mag fed only 16.25" barrel DMR> mag fed only 20" barrel AAR/C> side folding AAR mag fed only 16.25" barrel AMG> Dual fed mag and belt fed 16.25" barrel SPW> Belt fed only 16.25",20" or 12.5" barrel (Gov't sales only) 12.5 barrels are for sale for all of these weapons if you have a SOT, Form 4 or other approved NFA paperwork. Remember all barrels, uppers, bolts interchange. To go from a AAR or DMR (not AAR/C) to a AMG only needs a AMG feed tray, top cover and bolt carrier to change over. Barrel changes take 3 seconds AAR/C and AMG configuration changes take 2 minutes or less 12.5" 16.25" and 20" barrel are in the current line up in light and heavy profiles. 14.5" barrels will be added soon. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/27/2010 1:31:15 PM EDT
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nothing personal but the only thing i'd be interested in is the dual feed system and i think thats pretty much a universal sentiment. from your description the AAR is an ar15 that could be converted later when the parts come out. for this price i'd wait for the one i want.
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Posted: 10/27/2010 3:55:20 PM EDT
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nothing personal but the only thing i'd be interested in is the dual feed system and i think thats pretty much a universal sentiment. from your description the AAR is an ar15 that could be converted later when the parts come out. for this price i'd wait for the one i want. True, but they like to be able to post that they have uppers that are shipping. Just not the upper that every one wants. |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:47:02 AM EDT
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nothing personal but the only thing i'd be interested in is the dual feed system and i think thats pretty much a universal sentiment. from your description the AAR is an ar15 that could be converted later when the parts come out. for this price i'd wait for the one i want. True, but they like to be able to post that they have uppers that are shipping. Just not the upper that every one wants. We are currently shipping belt fed uppers but for back orders only, the AAR is shipping for new orders. Lots of ARES product is shipping RCUs, GXRs, AARs, back ordered belt feeds, spare parts and Shrike accessories. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/28/2010 9:09:47 PM EDT
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Can you give me a idea when i should be receiving my Shrike belt fed upper? I place my order with deposit in September 2002 and received a conformation letter also in September of 2002. thanks
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Posted: 10/29/2010 12:43:04 AM EDT
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Can you give me a idea when i should be receiving my Shrike belt fed upper? I place my order with deposit in September 2002 and received a conformation letter also in September of 2002. thanks
Darell Eight years. EIGHT YEARS?? You definitely have more patience than I do. I thought it was bad waiting four months on a US Optics, but eight years is unreal! |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 3:07:27 AM EDT
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All back orders are set to ship by the end of Jan 2011
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Posted: 10/29/2010 5:57:34 AM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK you mean If I order now, in two weeks I will have a shrike beltfed upper? AAR is the mag fed only Shrike that can be configured to a belt fed at a later date. uh, okay 
To be honest nobody really cares about those, so I don't know why you even mention it. You will never win the fight of broken promises unless you deliver. If the shrike was here I would buy one, now, not a re-mod kit to finished at a later date, But iI will probably go with the MM23 since it is available. Cerberus should buy the company out and get the capitol to make this thing happen. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 6:41:49 AM EDT
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The AARs rifles will be shipping in 2 weeks and uppers are in stock so are 12.5", 16.25" barrels 20" barrels are only out a month or so. Conversions to belt feed will be on the market in March.
COMPLETE AAR UPPERS are in STOCK you mean If I order now, in two weeks I will have a shrike beltfed upper? AAR is the mag fed only Shrike that can be configured to a belt fed at a later date. uh, okay
To be honest nobody really cares about those, so I don't know why you even mention it. You will never win the fight of broken promises unless you deliver. If the shrike was here I would buy one, now, not a re-mod kit to finished at a later date, But iI will probably go with the MM23 since it is available. Cerberus should buy the company out and get the capitol to make this thing happen. While I agree, they'd probably do what they did with Cobb MFG. Shut it down and acquire it's assets. So, like those that want the MCR-200,300,400s, and won't ever get them, same with the SHRIKE. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 6:43:23 AM EDT
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Well there too late for some of that we already expanded and bought more machines so we could fill these orders.
As for the AAR yea who would want a 3 second barrel change true gas piston design (not a retro fit kit) folding side charging handle machine gun quality/strength bolt head can be reconfigured to side folding or belt fed uses AR firing pin& retaining pin, ejector/pin/spring, extractor spring, front sight/spring/dent that bolt on to the hundreds of thousands of AR lowers in the US.
Having shot the HK21(7.62 version) for years when I was younger all I can or will say is have fun with that. For a machine gun shoot a HK belt fed is fun and a great range toy. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 6:58:36 AM EDT
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Well there too late for some of that we already expanded and bought more machines so we could fill these orders. As for the AAR yea who would want a 3 second barrel change true gas piston design (not a retro fit kit) folding side charging handle machine gun quality/strength bolt head can be reconfigured to side folding or belt fed uses AR firing pin& retaing pin, ejector/pin/spring, extractor spring, front sight/spring/dent that bolt on to the hundreds of thousands of AR lowers in the US.
I'm gonna point out that mechanically it can be. But in all practicality it can't be. Until the retrofit kit is available it's really not much more different to a user than the other quick-change kits which are out there, piston kits, which there are, and sidechargers, which there are. Dude, no doubt it's a cool product. Ares has some seriously cool products, but until your supply catches up with the back order and new customers can buy one in stock and get it a few days later, you're going to always have detractors. Quick technical question. In your gallery I see your AAR with a folded stock, but the bolt carrier is a full length carrier. How does that work? |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 7:04:07 AM EDT
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Its not a full carrier for the AAR/C
Also there is not one production quick change barrel rilfes out there as fast as a AAR and MOST require tools to change the barrel. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 7:11:08 AM EDT
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Well there too late for some of that we already expanded and bought more machines so we could fill these orders. As for the AAR yea who would want a 3 second barrel change true gas piston design (not a retro fit kit) folding side charging handle machine gun quality/strength bolt head can be reconfigured to side folding or belt fed uses AR firing pin& retaining pin, ejector/pin/spring, extractor spring, front sight/spring/dent that bolt on to the hundreds of thousands of AR lowers in the US.
I'm gonna point out that mechanically it can be. But in all practicality it can't be. Until the retrofit kit is available it's really not much more different to a user than the other quick-change kits which are out there, piston kits, which there are, and sidechargers, which there are. Dude, no doubt it's a cool product. Ares has some seriously cool products, but until your supply catches up with the back order and new customers can buy one in stock and get it a few days later, you're going to always have detractors. Quick technical question. In your gallery I see your AAR with a folded stock, but the bolt carrier is a full length carrier. How does that work? Yes there are side charging ARs all of which have taken material needed for uppers to allow that feature to work. The AAR is not just a piston AR it was designed as a piston upper that will fit a AR lower not just a retro fit kit or idea. The gas piston operation in a AAR is not trying to retain certain AR parts or specs like piston guns do. With a AAR your not just getting yet a new type of upper your more or less getting a different gun in operation, fuctionality and modularity. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 7:58:28 AM EDT
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All back orders are set to ship by the end of Jan 2011 january would be great news. do you think you could give me a phone call? i've called many times to the shop but no answers. i've allready sent you my contact information through this site. after 8 years am i getting close to the top of the list, and do you have a list that your working from, of who ordered when? i'm a very patient person and i think the wait will be well worth it when i get my shrike. |
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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:11:52 AM EDT
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The AAR upper is the finest made upper I own or have owned; and I've owned probally 300+ uppers of every brand, make configuration.
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