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Posted: 1/26/2009 6:23:26 AM EST
I just heard about some 1911's made form the remnets of a sunken geman ship. Anybody heard of them?
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 6:43:33 AM EST
M1927 Ejercito Argentino aka the Sistema Colt
No, they are not made from the German pocket battle ship Admiral Graff Spee.
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 6:45:55 AM EST
sounds like a cool idea
looking forward to more info
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Link Posted: 1/26/2009 6:54:47 AM EST
I thought there was some "kernel of truth" to the myth, such as one major part being made from materials recycled from the boat.  (Couldn't remember the name, thanks Dr.)
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 11:12:51 AM EST
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I thought there was some "kernel of truth" to the myth, such as one major part being made from materials recycled from the boat.  (Couldn't remember the name, thanks Dr.)


Thats what I heard, but it sounds like maybe BS
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 11:34:59 AM EST
Its BS. They didn't even begin raising the wreck until 2004.
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 12:56:59 PM EST
they should make one out of a melted down girder from the WTC.
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 1:53:53 PM EST
This rumor is completely false––the end.
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 3:36:07 PM EST
A short history of Argentine 11.43mm pistols and the Graf Spee rumour....Argentina bought some 1911's, then in 1927 contracted for the Sistema lic by Colt.  Later they developed the Ballester-Molina pistol, which was 1911ish, but had a different lockwork and no grip safety.  Shared barrels and mags only.  The steel used in the Molina was probably US steel supplied to UK under lend/lease.  Arg was neutral in WWII, but sold lotsa Molena's to UK.  During the period in which these pistols were being made, some Argentine vessels were scuttled and may have been used in making steel for guns, but there's no specific indication of that.  (The ship in the rumour, the Graf Spee, was sunk in Uruguay, so no material could have been in Argentine foundries)

I've searched and looked and hunted, and cannot find where this rumour started, although G Gordon Liddy is credited with promulgating it on his radio program.  It was orginally put forth as evidence of the inferiority of the argentine pistol, but that mindset shows a distinct lack of understanding of metallurgy.
Link Posted: 1/26/2009 6:10:05 PM EST
Argentinians purchased their gun steel from Sweden.
How do folks dream this stuff up??
Link Posted: 1/27/2009 6:36:57 AM EST
What do you have to do to find a decent haunted gun around here?
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