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Posted: 12/15/2008 11:58:26 AM EDT
When you hear that bump in the night and go to investigate holding hands with Molly Mossberg or Boom-boom Betty are you thinking you want to kill or wound? Are you just running on reaction? areyou wondering what that wet sensation running down your leg is?

Just keyed in on some other thoughts in "Do you have more than 1 shell type in your shotgun?"


I was raised and taught (yes I am not a ward of some leftist liberal state) if you pick it up you better use it and you had better kill what you use it on...
I feel that if I am worried about the bad zombies life than I am not in the right frame of mind.
Not to mention care for and protect my family or self and should just spin the barrel into my face and get right to work.

Do you feel there are any other ways? (I won’t change mine. I am to old and not going to place zombies over loved ones or self).

This one is for the law in the crowd” do you fell that taking the time to worry about the bad zombies puts you at risk of harm or death?" do you feel it takes more time to respond to an impending threat?

do you think about more than just taking about it? what happens next?
Link Posted: 12/15/2008 12:30:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/15/2008 3:43:39 PM EDT
[#2]
If they're in my house in the middle of the night and they're not supposed to be I'm not going to dick around with LTL rounds, warning shots, or any other sorts of warnings.
Link Posted: 12/15/2008 4:06:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/15/2008 4:31:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Less than lethal rounds can be lethal if you hit someone at close range or in the wrong spot. There is no guarantee that you won't kill someone with it.

There are two points you have to consider when and if you shoot someone. There is the legal ramifications, and the mental ramifications of taking another human beings life. In most places to justify shooting someone, you should be in fear of emanate death or serious bodily harm, (for you or your loved ones). Keeping this in mind should help you with any legal battles after the future.

It's great to talk tough on the internet, but if you have any bit of a conscience you will have to deal with the psychological impact of killing a person. Do you want to have to deal with the knowledge that you killed someone because you thought it might be cool?

If you are truly in that kind of situation where you feel it warrants shooting someone, you want to stop them as quickly as possible. Stop is just another word for kill IMO. There is no wounding when it comes to trying to keep you or yours alive and safe.



if they are in my house dont worrie i wont be talking. i will however be willing to deal with the situation from start to finish.
the question is what is going through your mind when things go bump in the night.my  mind is bent on going back to bed no matter what i have to do to get there.
Link Posted: 12/15/2008 5:09:54 PM EDT
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I'll say it again,

If you really think somebody is in your house and you have all of your family secure then a cell phone  and 911 is the best response. Holding ground and killing anything that comes up the stairs is a lot easier than hunting unknown numbers of people in the dark. It's impossible for one person to clear a house without a lot of luck.

And always, always shoot to kill. And make sure it's dead. 00 to #4 buck is your best friend.
Link Posted: 12/15/2008 6:42:08 PM EDT
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I agree with Fearme, never give some a_ _hole the benefit of the doubt, he won't give
it to you and he shouldn't be there in the first place. On two occasions I cleared
a place of business with a handgun and a flashlight on my own. Never again, it ain't worth it...that's what they make dogs for...or cops and body armor. Think safety for
you and yours first. Nothing else is worth it.
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Link Posted: 12/15/2008 8:08:01 PM EDT
[#7]
okay lets try it again .

from the moment your wife ,girl friend,stripper from joes  sugar shack or second cousin says

"did you hear that?"

what are you thinking at that moment?



Link Posted: 12/15/2008 8:26:45 PM EDT
[#8]
"And always, always shoot to kill. And make sure it's dead. 00 to #4 buck is your best friend."

We have a winner!!!
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Link Posted: 12/15/2008 8:43:24 PM EDT
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i give up. i am going back to talking to the voices in my head.
Link Posted: 12/15/2008 9:37:09 PM EDT
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Quoted:
okay lets try it again .
from the moment your wife ,girl friend,stripper from joes  sugar shack or second cousin says
"did you hear that?"
what are you thinking at that moment?



If it's just a stripper then you send her down the stairs with the 870 and a flashlight!

We've all had shit go bump in the night. I've got motion detectors all over my house and yard and a little panel in our bedroom as part of the alarm system. If someone is moving around in the yard or house it's pretty easy to tell. Usually just animals outside but I like to know...

Install those cheap motion-detecting lights all over the place inside. If you hear noises and see lights going on then you know you've got a few seconds to arm yourself, gather your family, and WAIT after calling 911.

Another cool thing are those cheap Intermatic battery powered motion detector/alarms with the 4-button keypad. Arm one at the top of your stairs or wherever your chokepoint is before you go to bed. I've got a couple in a shed outside where my main system isn't wired. Loud as all fuck and have never falsed on me.

And make sure whatever your plan is includes lots of light to identify your target before pulling the trigger. Your daughter's boyfriend coming over to bang her at 2AM deserves to be held at gunpoint but splattering his brains all over is a different matter.

And always know your background.
Link Posted: 12/16/2008 4:09:38 AM EDT
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2X on the daughters boy friend. pistol whippings are fair game on window waxers.imho
Link Posted: 12/25/2008 6:54:12 PM EDT
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after playing with a box of fiocchi non lethal rubber 00, i was not impressed.  some rounds would go bang others only pop followed by sparks and shit flying down range.  wacky ignition issues i guess, or just the nature of the beast, who knows.  i was just waiting for a hang-fire.  needless to say i will not be relying on anything other that buck or slugs in any imminent death situation.  i thought i might load two of these followed by 00buckshot or what ever, not anymore.
Link Posted: 12/25/2008 8:04:34 PM EDT
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