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Posted: 9/11/2005 2:25:10 PM EDT
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Fun as hell. Nice, handy little rifle.
I have a Winchester 94 16" model. Very light and quick handling. Not so great trigger. Action is a little sloppy, but it is reliable. Decently accurate. I was able to sweeten up the trigger a little bit. I think a Marlin carbine would probably have been a little nicer, and the side eject would have been handy. Eventually, I'll be trying to get the XS sights on it. With the right loads, you can get really really close to .30-30 energy. I'd have no problem using it on any game here in Texas within 100 yards or even a little more. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 2:58:16 PM EDT
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I lust after the Marlin versions with the octagon barrels. One in .357mag should make a nice little stray coyote (2 or 4 legged) gun, IMO.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 3:29:37 PM EDT
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Go with the .44 magnum if you can. Particularly if you reload and hunt. You can safely load them way down for plinking or load them hotter for more serious occasions. It is much more versatile than the .357. I like the Marlin more than the Winchesters.
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Posted: 9/11/2005 6:59:02 PM EDT
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I have a Winchester M94 Trapper in 357 Magnum but I don't really know what its good for.
Its one of those "it seemed like a good idea at the time" type of guns. I think my rational at the time was to have a politicily correct camp gun to go with a 357 revolver. I never used it for that purpose and I just don't think pistol caliber rifles are good for much of anything except as a fun plinker. If you are going to pack the bulk have something in a more potent rifle caliber is my thought. That said, if you want one I'd go with the Marlin as my Winchester is pretty loose and the barrel is rather heavy for such a small carbine. If I wanted a PC type rifle for camping I'd rather use a 30/30 lever action or a Mini-14 in 223. Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:04:10 PM EDT
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Rossi makes/made a Model 92 Winchester clone, Navy Arms still sells one. The Model 94 is designed for a rifle length cartridge and cycling can be very spotty with pistol cartridges, evidenced by various samples. Most Cowboy Action Shooters hate them.
The Marlin is another great choice, built like a battleship and runs real nice. I have the Rossi and Marlin. Great for pistol length cartridges. |
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:11:01 PM EDT
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Loads of fun, and adequate for deer hunting as the ballistics are much better from a carbine than from a revolver.
Mine is an older Marlin 1894c. Winchester makes a model 94 in .357 and Rossi makes a replica of the 1892 Winchester. You can even get the Rossi in stainless. |
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Posted: 9/30/2005 9:20:50 AM EDT
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I had the win Trapper .357mag. Fun little plinker. I did not like the cross bolt safty and sold it off after I decided if i was going to carry a carbine I wanted carbine ballistics.
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Posted: 9/30/2005 8:11:44 PM EDT
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How much more effective is the marlin in 44 mag?
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Posted: 9/30/2005 8:25:54 PM EDT
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With 300Gn ammo, significantly more effective. www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=78;t=000123#000000 |
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Posted: 10/2/2005 1:12:57 PM EDT
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i have had the incredible urge to buy a lever-gun. but i don't have the budget to buy another caliber. so why can't any company make a lever action carbine in 9mm? or even .45acp? i know fully that there is no reason to use either of those calibers for hunding but for plinking i think they would be great. and they are both cheaper than .357mag.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 8:45:59 PM EDT
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Because 9mm, or 45ACP aren't really loaded in flat point versions much, save for defensive ammo. See, with a tube magazine, having a pointy bullet agains the primer of the round in front of it is generally a bad thing. Revolver rounds work better because they are generally available in flat point, semi wadcutter or even full wadcutters. |
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Posted: 10/2/2005 10:13:48 PM EDT
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Because calibers with a prominent rim work best in lever guns. even .45Colt is spotty in lever guns for this reason. |
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Posted: 10/3/2005 6:43:35 AM EDT
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i figured those would be 2 reasons why it wouldn't work. but a man can wish right.
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:00:15 PM EDT
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+1 on all accounts. The Marlin in .44 is a tremendously handy gun. Love mine. |
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:11:53 PM EDT
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I honestly think that both .357 and .44mag are great rounds in a lever action carbine... Both can be loaded in either direction.
I went with .357 for several reasons... I have a .357 revolver, and could share loads, or at least dies and cases. I can use .38spl and .38+P out of either. And with .357 in a rifle, I can push light bullets from 110gr well over 2200fps on up to 180gr pills probably better than 1600fps. Right now, I've settled on a 158gr flat point that should get close to 1800fps out of my carbine. And that's plenty of whoopass for just about any game smaller than elk or bear. It'll kill anything we got here in Texas. I intend to use it on hogs at closer ranges (within and up to maybe 125 yards). Just can't beat trekking around with a light (~5lb) short carbine! |
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:18:00 PM EDT
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Dammit! I got this bug about a year ago, but dropped it. Now this is TWO threads in 24 hours that are asking about .357 lever-action carbines.
It's a sign, I tell ya. |
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:25:42 PM EDT
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I wish i had a winchester trapper in 7.62x39 they could put an m-16 type extractor and use the fluted type magazine tube like on the old remington pumps that kept the points from toutchin the primers.(So much for wishing) but i have the .357 and i like it a lot , but it might be a little light for big hogs.
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Posted: 10/3/2005 11:15:54 PM EDT
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If you are looking specifically at terminal ballistics the 30-30 is quite similar to the 7.62x39 - though less cool than the setup you propose. http://www.gabesuarez.com/leveraction.html ETA: Oh, and 30-30 levers are cheap! My 357/38 Marlin 1894 CB is used primarily in cowboy competition - 38 spl .06 per round reloaded. The standard 357/38 Marlins and especially Winchesters are finicky with 38spl oal - find the right oal and use it. More umph can be had with 44spl/44mag (44spl oal may be issue also) or 45LC (best cycling IMHO). For light loads in mag calibers or 45LC use something like Trail Boss, or Titegroup to avoid position sensitivity. Personally I love the 357/38 - cheap reload in 38spl or a stopper with a 357 fullhouse from a rifle barrel.  |
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Posted: 10/3/2005 11:39:45 PM EDT
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This is the one gun I have wanted for a long time and I just have not goten around to it. If I find a nice used one I might pick it up.
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Posted: 10/4/2005 6:32:53 PM EDT
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It could be Glof. If you want to check out my Winchester 94 carbine, you're welcome to. It's handy as hell, short, compact and light. The only things I don't like about it are that the Winchesters are a bit loose in the action, and the trigger ain't that great. I was able to tweak mine a bit, but it still ain't great. I'd like to find a Marlin carbine with the 18" barrel and cut it down, thread it, and slap a can on it. Drop some .38s in it, and it's subsonic... woot! |
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Posted: 10/5/2005 2:22:30 AM EDT
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The .35 Remington (Marlin) being a notable exception. Never had a feed problem or heard of one in a .35 Marlin. 
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Posted: 10/5/2005 2:33:25 AM EDT
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I have a Marlin 1894C in .357, and absolutely love it. As mentioned elsewhere, the trigger is a lottle sloppy, but soon here I'm going to get one of the Wild West Guns improved triggers. I believe Brownells also carries them.
On this carbine, I have installed a cheap Truglo 30mm red dot sight (I know putting dot oprics on a lever gun is a heresy), as well as Williams Firesight fibre optic front & rear sights. The Williams sights look to be the same setup as is offered on the 10/22. My only complaint with them is that the rear sight is held in place with only a set screw, ad the Williams sight is a little small for the factory Dovetail. Thinking about installing a windage & elevation adjustable folding rear sight as made by a few companies, also available from Brownells. Overall it makes a good all-purpose carbine. Can be used for home defense, small game gunting with .38spl loads, a more than suitable short-range deer rifle with 180gr .357 loads, a plinker with fmj stuff... Next to mr AR it's my favorite long gun. |
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Posted: 10/5/2005 3:36:08 PM EDT
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wanna sell it? |
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Posted: 10/5/2005 6:53:18 PM EDT
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have a Marlin.love it. I also reload for it. win.silvertip over imr4227 shoots good hits hard
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Posted: 10/5/2005 7:01:00 PM EDT
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Navy Arms / Uberti are making the 1866 and 1873 Winchester reproductions. Also good lever gun platforms.
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Posted: 10/5/2005 7:15:10 PM EDT
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I had a Marlin once, the plain-Jane version carbine with a birch stock and a barleycorn front sight. That little bugger kicked a bit w/ 158 grain .357s but it was a lot of fun to shoot. It never failed to feed or extract and was accurate. I'd buy one if I were you, always regretted selling mine.
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Posted: 10/5/2005 7:24:20 PM EDT
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I know. My dad got a 44 mag lever action two years ago, and I liked it, but did not give much thought to another one, except I really wanted a 45-70. Then last week I got a 45-70 and now all of a sudden I am in a lever action mode. I came here to ask if I can shoot 38spl in a 357 lever action and I see in a responce or two that people do. So now I am itching even worse! |
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Posted: 10/6/2005 9:51:21 AM EDT
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Yep MJohn, .38spl works FINE in a .357 lever carbine! Use ANY .38 or .357 ammo with confidence. I've used a few different loads in each out of my Winchester, and they load, fire and eject fine. The rifle is a little picky about extracting and ejecting a live round, but it has never missed a step ejecting an empty.
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Posted: 10/6/2005 4:17:50 PM EDT
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Anybody know anything about the Puma lever action .357's?
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Posted: 10/8/2005 10:30:45 AM EDT
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I don't suggest the rossi. I had one a few years ago. I was very finicky about ammo. Most ammo wouldn't extract very easily. Stay with a winchester or marlin. It sure looked cool though. I think it was called a puma. It was a shame though because it looked pretty solid rifle otherwise. It might have just been a fluke.
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